[wolf]

I hear that as you get older you need money to keep your high value. So how do you use your money effectively( without paying for a escort) to show that you're high value.

[iknowexactly]

(01-05-2012 09:42 PM)wolf Wrote:  

I hear that as you get older you need money to keep your high value. So how do you use your money effectively( without paying for a escort) to show that you're high value.

First, I aged pretty well, but early 40's you can still get 18 year olds if you want, just not the subset that are bent on being "cool". Instead of just opening mindlessly, wait for IOI's especially eye contact with pupil dilation, which is perceived as "flashing eyes." Also lie about your age, unless you want to marry her and pay child support when she dumps you in 10 years.

And you better be saving up to move overseas by 55-- or to be making 12k/month+ in Murka if you want to stand out as a baller; because despite all the bullshit about game rules all unless you are paying you won't be getting a lot of chicks under 27-30 unless you are really charismatic after that ( more below.)

When you get to about 50 make sure there's no weak points in your wardrobe--remember women are shallow and childlike--nice shoes etc.

Probably the biggest hazard for me was alcohol, I had a dreary job as I was saving up to retire, and drinking easily puts on weight which ruins her fantasy. You've got to stay in shape, LOSING weight is vastly harder than when you were young because you can't beat the hell out of your body working out-- you don't recover as fast and you feel like shit if you exhaust yourself. You've got to control it on the front end--reduce eating while keeping protein intake adequate.

Even though when you're young you'll think "Oh, I'm tough I can just work out like crazy, I don't care how much it hurts," it's not that simple, you'll be so exhausted if you do 3-4 hour workouts that you'll get in car accidents, forget stuff and waste money, because your mental functioning will decline if you exhaust yourself. That said, you HAVE to remain active or you'll start to look like the middle aged guy you don't want to be-- like her exhuasted father-- imagine if you had a hot teenage daughter how that would wear you out!?

Then when you hit mid-fifties and have an independent income, by FAR the most efficient fastest way to increase your value is simply move to a relatively poor country.

--make sure you have an income over about US1500 per month, preferably more but don't wait til you're 65 to do it-- that income in 2012 terms

---move somewhere where the great majority doesn't makes that much. You'll deal with the same admiration and jealousy that someone
with an independent income of 6-8k per month deals with in the USA. You still have to be DOING something though, young women like excitement and don't want to think of themselves as simply whores unless they're real dumb or trash. I make artsy movies. It's quite time consuming and gives you a lot of excuses to meet people, not just chicks. Movie people are generally very intelligent and interesting.

-- I say MOVE somewhere rather than "travel" because travel is vastly more expensive-- I can live on 1200 a month, but each time you move, an intercontinental plane flight is over a month's expenses. Also, this is getting better because of online renting, but if you still have to go through the putting a deposit down on an apt that kills you with another 500-1000. I avoid this like the plague unless you're staying somewhere more than a year or so. Who knows if you'll get your money back?

Compare the difficulty of THAT with getting the income you need to stand out in the USA-- 10-20k per month-- that takes real treachery or skill.
Just get on a plane and in a day you triple your relative income.

So just go to
Thailand, Russia, Columbia-- wherever YOUR TYPE OF PERSONALITY and looks are appreciated.

I think this is overlooked, you need to be somewhere where you are capable of LIKING the people. I hate flakes, so I haven't invested in Columbia although the chicks would probably get me really hot. Slavs are more serious and straightforward, and I prefer that. If someone acts like they like you they often actually do and won't change their minds in a day. If you like dancing, laughing in groups, "partying" ( watch out for alcohol) you probably would like South America more. If you are one hopeless mofo, totally disorganized, only able to get together 800 a month in income, I hear really wrecked guys STILL get chicks 1/3 their age in SE Asia.

I'm scuffling around on $1300 / month in an unnamed Eastern Euro place and a very cute clerk in a Home Depot type place here yesterday:

"If you need anything, I'm xxxxx and I work in dept 49 if you come back."

She was treating me like chicks treat a plastic surgeon in the US.

To parphrase an old Randy Newman song, " I LOVE [not being in] LA"

[Downunder]

(01-06-2012 01:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-05-2012 09:42 PM)wolf Wrote:  

I hear that as you get older you need money to keep your high value. So how do you use your money effectively( without paying for a escort) to show that you're high value.

First, I aged pretty well, but early 40's you can still get 18 year olds if you want, just not the subset that are bent on being "cool". Instead of just opening mindlessly, wait for IOI's especially eye contact with pupil dilation, which is perceived as "flashing eyes." Also lie about your age, unless you want to marry her and pay child support when she dumps you in 10 years.

And you better be saving up to move overseas by 55-- or to be making 12k/month+ in Murka if you want to stand out as a baller; because despite all the bullshit about game rules all unless you are paying you won't be getting a lot of chicks under 27-30 unless you are really charismatic after that ( more below.)

When you get to about 50 make sure there's no weak points in your wardrobe--remember women are shallow and childlike--nice shoes etc.

Probably the biggest hazard for me was alcohol, I had a dreary job as I was saving up to retire, and drinking easily puts on weight which ruins her fantasy. You've got to stay in shape, LOSING weight is vastly harder than when you were young because you can't beat the hell out of your body working out-- you don't recover as fast and you feel like shit if you exhaust yourself. You've got to control it on the front end--reduce eating while keeping protein intake adequate.

Even though when you're young you'll think "Oh, I'm tough I can just work out like crazy, I don't care how much it hurts," it's not that simple, you'll be so exhausted if you do 3-4 hour workouts that you'll get in car accidents, forget stuff and waste money, because your mental functioning will decline if you exhaust yourself. That said, you HAVE to remain active or you'll start to look like the middle aged guy you don't want to be-- like her exhuasted father-- imagine if you had a hot teenage daughter how that would wear you out!?

Then when you hit mid-fifties and have an independent income, by FAR the most efficient fastest way to increase your value is simply move to a relatively poor country.

--make sure you have an income over about US1500 per month, preferably more but don't wait til you're 65 to do it-- that income in 2012 terms

---move somewhere where the great majority doesn't makes that much. You'll deal with the same admiration and jealousy that someone
with an independent income of 6-8k per month deals with in the USA. You still have to be DOING something though, young women like excitement and don't want to think of themselves as simply whores unless they're real dumb or trash. I make artsy movies. It's quite time consuming and gives you a lot of excuses to meet people, not just chicks. Movie people are generally very intelligent and interesting.

-- I say MOVE somewhere rather than "travel" because travel is vastly more expensive-- I can live on 1200 a month, but each time you move, an intercontinental plane flight is over a month's expenses. Also, this is getting better because of online renting, but if you still have to go through the putting a deposit down on an apt that kills you with another 500-1000. I avoid this like the plague unless you're staying somewhere more than a year or so. Who knows if you'll get your money back?

Compare the difficulty of THAT with getting the income you need to stand out in the USA-- 10-20k per month-- that takes real treachery or skill.
Just get on a plane and in a day you triple your relative income.

So just go to
Thailand, Russia, Columbia-- wherever YOUR TYPE OF PERSONALITY and looks are appreciated.

I think this is overlooked, you need to be somewhere where you are capable of LIKING the people. I hate flakes, so I haven't invested in Columbia although the chicks would probably get me really hot. Slavs are more serious and straightforward, and I prefer that. If someone acts like they like you they often actually do and won't change their minds in a day. If you like dancing, laughing in groups, "partying" ( watch out for alcohol) you probably would like South America more. If you are one hopeless mofo, totally disorganized, only able to get together 800 a month in income, I hear really wrecked guys STILL get chicks 1/3 their age in SE Asia.

I'm scuffling around on $1300 / month in an unnamed Eastern Euro place and a very cute clerk in a Home Depot type place here yesterday:

"If you need anything, I'm xxxxx and I work in dept 49 if you come back."

She was treating me like chicks treat a plastic surgeon in the US.

To parphrase an old Randy Newman song, " I LOVE [not being in] LA"

Awesome reply man! Some great advice indeed.

[WEDO]

(01-06-2012 01:12 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-05-2012 09:42 PM)wolf Wrote:  

I hear that as you get older you need money to keep your high value. So how do you use your money effectively( without paying for a escort) to show that you're high value.

First, I aged pretty well, but early 40's you can still get 18 year olds if you want, just not the subset that are bent on being "cool". Instead of just opening mindlessly, wait for IOI's especially eye contact with pupil dilation, which is perceived as "flashing eyes." Also lie about your age, unless you want to marry her and pay child support when she dumps you in 10 years.

And you better be saving up to move overseas by 55-- or to be making 12k/month+ in Murka if you want to stand out as a baller; because despite all the bullshit about game rules all unless you are paying you won't be getting a lot of chicks under 27-30 unless you are really charismatic after that ( more below.)

When you get to about 50 make sure there's no weak points in your wardrobe--remember women are shallow and childlike--nice shoes etc.

Probably the biggest hazard for me was alcohol, I had a dreary job as I was saving up to retire, and drinking easily puts on weight which ruins her fantasy. You've got to stay in shape, LOSING weight is vastly harder than when you were young because you can't beat the hell out of your body working out-- you don't recover as fast and you feel like shit if you exhaust yourself. You've got to control it on the front end--reduce eating while keeping protein intake adequate.

Even though when you're young you'll think "Oh, I'm tough I can just work out like crazy, I don't care how much it hurts," it's not that simple, you'll be so exhausted if you do 3-4 hour workouts that you'll get in car accidents, forget stuff and waste money, because your mental functioning will decline if you exhaust yourself. That said, you HAVE to remain active or you'll start to look like the middle aged guy you don't want to be-- like her exhuasted father-- imagine if you had a hot teenage daughter how that would wear you out!?

Then when you hit mid-fifties and have an independent income, by FAR the most efficient fastest way to increase your value is simply move to a relatively poor country.

--make sure you have an income over about US1500 per month, preferably more but don't wait til you're 65 to do it-- that income in 2012 terms

---move somewhere where the great majority doesn't makes that much. You'll deal with the same admiration and jealousy that someone
with an independent income of 6-8k per month deals with in the USA. You still have to be DOING something though, young women like excitement and don't want to think of themselves as simply whores unless they're real dumb or trash. I make artsy movies. It's quite time consuming and gives you a lot of excuses to meet people, not just chicks. Movie people are generally very intelligent and interesting.

-- I say MOVE somewhere rather than "travel" because travel is vastly more expensive-- I can live on 1200 a month, but each time you move, an intercontinental plane flight is over a month's expenses. Also, this is getting better because of online renting, but if you still have to go through the putting a deposit down on an apt that kills you with another 500-1000. I avoid this like the plague unless you're staying somewhere more than a year or so. Who knows if you'll get your money back?

Compare the difficulty of THAT with getting the income you need to stand out in the USA-- 10-20k per month-- that takes real treachery or skill.
Just get on a plane and in a day you triple your relative income.

So just go to
Thailand, Russia, Columbia-- wherever YOUR TYPE OF PERSONALITY and looks are appreciated.

I think this is overlooked, you need to be somewhere where you are capable of LIKING the people. I hate flakes, so I haven't invested in Columbia although the chicks would probably get me really hot. Slavs are more serious and straightforward, and I prefer that. If someone acts like they like you they often actually do and won't change their minds in a day. If you like dancing, laughing in groups, "partying" ( watch out for alcohol) you probably would like South America more. If you are one hopeless mofo, totally disorganized, only able to get together 800 a month in income, I hear really wrecked guys STILL get chicks 1/3 their age in SE Asia.

I'm scuffling around on $1300 / month in an unnamed Eastern Euro place and a very cute clerk in a Home Depot type place here yesterday:

"If you need anything, I'm xxxxx and I work in dept 49 if you come back."

She was treating me like chicks treat a plastic surgeon in the US.

To parphrase an old Randy Newman song, " I LOVE [not being in] LA"

All very good advice....But, you can cut the flakiness of Colombianas down to almost nil if you have your own place (stay for more than a couple weeks at a time) and just act like you are interested in something more than just sex.

[MiXX]

(01-06-2012 09:29 AM)WEDO Wrote:  

All very good advice....But, you can cut the flakiness of Colombianas down to almost nil if you have your own place (stay for more than a couple weeks at a time) and just act like you are interested in something more than just sex.

I am best suited to answer this.

I have, better yet, I fully own a pimped out 2-story loft in Medellin in the most exclusive/elite neighborhood, El Tesoro. I speak Fluent Spanish, take pride in my appearance, stay for 3 month + trips, and have a local social circle.

With that said, here is your answer: NO!

You can never reduce flakiness down to zero in Colombia even with all your added value above. It's in their nature to always be late, flake, and then apologize for doing so and EXPECT YOU to be cool with it.

Whose to blame for all of this flakiness and bullshit? The local Beta Colombian men who put up with it simply because they have other girls they routinely fuck, and can afford to do so - they live there year-round, they don't have time constraints like traveling "sex tourists".

Flakiness will likely reduce by 50%, but you should still expect it, deal with it, or move on.

Mixx

[WestIndianArchie]

(01-05-2012 09:42 PM)wolf Wrote:  

I hear that as you get older you need money to keep your high value. So how do you use your money effectively( without paying for a escort) to show that you're high value.

Buddy of mine's dad (47) just had his 23rd kid with a 26 year old. He's not paid by any means. He's not famous.

Now, i'm not saying that his is an example you want to follow, but the game doesn't change and hasn't changed for thousands of years.

If you want to keep banging young chicks you can. Just focus your life on being a poon hound, and you'll never be w/o company.

[pitt]

Perfect breakdown iknowexactly, +1 from me

[MrXY]

Excellent post iknowexactly.
Fitness can't be emphasized enough for older guys-ordinary "walk three times" a week isn't nearly enough-aim for a high level of fitness
Your ideal should be looking something like the guys on the covers of Men's Fitness or Men's Health magazines-lean with noticeable muscle, not ridiculous like a roided out bodybuilder.
Study how to work out properly and get your nutrition dialed in(critical)
I have achieved this to some degree and it has made a huge difference- I get loads of IOI's in public from chicks down to their early 20's (I am late 40's) much more so than when i was in my 30's or 20's.
Get your wardrobe looking sharp to show off your new body and find a good tailor to fit you properly.As mentioned shoes are very important to chicks- get high quality shoes that are stylish-not too conservative or old-mannish (i.e no Florsheim or Allen Edmonds) or too douchy (no square toes).I prefer high end Italian myself.
And yes-lie about your age if she is much younger-shave off only as much as you think you can get get way with

[garygroundwork]

good thread!

[iknowexactly]

I can't tell you how great it is to get overseas when over 50, to a 2nd wold place, and stare right at 18 year olds who don't grimace like you called them a bad name as a result.

[pitt]

Iknowexactly so you dont drive where you at? I am starting to believe i need less and less money or maybe if you were balling in eastern europe as an older man, your numbers in terms of bangs would be higher (Imagine driving an expensive car there, having a luxury flat/home, etc). I am shocked that you are living with such a low budget in eastern europe at your age.

[iknowexactly]

(01-08-2012 12:15 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Iknowexactly so you dont drive where you at? I am starting to believe i need less and less money or maybe if you were balling in eastern europe as an older man, your numbers in terms of bangs would be higher (Imagine driving an expensive car there, having a luxury flat/home, etc). I am shocked that you are living with such a low budget in eastern europe at your age.

My goal: Cheat the POD, because The Giant Hand makes no allowances.

No, I don't drive. I am NOT balling, it would be nice to have more money, but I'm not staying in the POD more years to get it --wasting my life.

Please don't take the following as any kind of indictment of more regular people, I'm a nut and a snob and just telling you really how I tick.

First off I'm not into numbers of bangs, my neurology is such that I pair bond easily, and prefer to have long-term relationships. ( For more info on the neurochemical anatomy of reward-dependence and thrill-seeking see Cloninger, a personality researcher.) I am using game not to get more women, but to be in control in the relationships i have and get hotter women-- the only real way to have control is to always have another chick waiting, and have your current bitch know it.

I'm an eccentric, intellectual snob and look down on tacky shit like impressing girls with cars, and I look down on girls who are impressed by cars. I've always excelled at school, and I also am completely lacking in common sense and business sense.

It would be hard to duplicate what I do- I come off in some ways as pretty helpless actually. Women have an instinct to nurture, as well a somewhat conflicting instinct to pursue the alpha. I call this "lapdog game." The technique is to be really nice and sort of childlike towards her-- but she knows that a "child" is also helpless and friendly to other women as well-- setting up an competition in her mind.

One of things I like about Slavs is that --imagine this--they respect education as something that makes you interesting to hang out with.

Let's say I sold widgets my whole life, saved up enough for the baller pad, the 12 cylinder Mercedes, and I get here to Eastern Europe.

After I drive the type of dumb bitch that's impressed by this home, what do we do? Put a stupid Hollywood movie on and talk about--widgets?
I've instead developed my INNER WORLD so that I am interesting in a way other than as a supplier of junk.
I just had a talk today with a young woman who educated me on the differences between Gothic, Renaissance, Classical, and Modern architecture. THAT got me hot. I got her number. THAT ( and the fact that chicks aren't fat.) is why I love EE.

Back to earlier life priorities--while Johnny MBA was topping up his stock portfolio, (what was in his brain? widgetsdollarswidgetsdollars...) I was earning the equivalent of 3 college degrees, writing songs and screenplays. I wouldn't advocate this type of life unless you are equally eccentric and have some talent and drive.

The whole siren-song trap of the consumerist West is "...work a little more, you're almost good enough, if you just have a little more money you can be OK..." and being over 50 I've felt my health decline enough to realize that's the model of Capitalism-- use you up while you struggle to "make good", then spit you out when you're too worn out to enjoy life.

I worked until I had an independent income so I could live where hot chicks are. Then I said FUCK YOU POD. FUCK YOU 3X, CUBICLE-POD-DEATHCELL-TOMB. I do NOTHING for POD anymore.

I also spent my 20's playing the guitar FTW and having fun then too. So, by the time I go wide on a cliffside road's bend on the Amalfi coast at 77 years old, the POD will only have had me for about 20 years out of my whole life. And as the sea rushes towards me, I'll make sure to say one last FU again to the POD.

The whole idea is to cheat the POD as much as you can, because you can't cheat The Giant Hand, it gets everyone.

[rudebwoy]

IKE- great post man and you are really sharing some nice knowledge. Keep writing about your experiences in Ukraine, who knows I might join you there for a drink sooner than later. You are motivating me (I am sure others) to get out of the "cubicle" and live life how it was meant to be.

MR XY- true words my friend.

[Pilgrim37]

Iknowexactly

I like "The Giant Hand"

But what the hell is the POD?

I'm glad you have found a lifestyle and place you like.
But,surely some of the real satisfaction in life comes through achievement and struggle.

I'm not saying 9-5 slaving at something you don't care for but at something that turns you on .

Maybe I didn't read your earlier posts and you are working at something and not just "hanging" in Ukraine.
Even with beauties all around I wouldn't want to just hang out,I'd end up feeling trapped and bored.

I'm 10 months away from my 40 th so I need to get my shit together too! Like you,at this stage of life I'm not interested in endless ONS and finding a girl you want to spend the day with too isn't so easy.
But you've got to keep going!

[Krauser]

(01-08-2012 12:55 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(01-08-2012 12:15 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Iknowexactly so you dont drive where you at? I am starting to believe i need less and less money or maybe if you were balling in eastern europe as an older man, your numbers in terms of bangs would be higher (Imagine driving an expensive car there, having a luxury flat/home, etc). I am shocked that you are living with such a low budget in eastern europe at your age.

My goal: Cheat the POD, because The Giant Hand makes no allowances.

No, I don't drive. I am NOT balling, it would be nice to have more money, but I'm not staying in the POD more years to get it --wasting my life.

Please don't take the following as any kind of indictment of more regular people, I'm a nut and a snob and just telling you really how I tick.

First off I'm not into numbers of bangs, my neurology is such that I pair bond easily, and prefer to have long-term relationships. ( For more info on the neurochemical anatomy of reward-dependence and thrill-seeking see Cloninger, a personality researcher.) I am using game not to get more women, but to be in control in the relationships i have and get hotter women-- the only real way to have control is to always have another chick waiting, and have your current bitch know it.

I'm an eccentric, intellectual snob and look down on tacky shit like impressing girls with cars, and I look down on girls who are impressed by cars. I've always excelled at school, and I also am completely lacking in common sense and business sense.

It would be hard to duplicate what I do- I come off in some ways as pretty helpless actually. Women have an instinct to nurture, as well a somewhat conflicting instinct to pursue the alpha. I call this "lapdog game." The technique is to be really nice and sort of childlike towards her-- but she knows that a "child" is also helpless and friendly to other women as well-- setting up an competition in her mind.

One of things I like about Slavs is that --imagine this--they respect education as something that makes you interesting to hang out with.

Let's say I sold widgets my whole life, saved up enough for the baller pad, the 12 cylinder Mercedes, and I get here to Eastern Europe.

After I drive the type of dumb bitch that's impressed by this home, what do we do? Put a stupid Hollywood movie on and talk about--widgets?
I've instead developed my INNER WORLD so that I am interesting in a way other than as a supplier of junk.
I just had a talk today with a young woman who educated me on the differences between Gothic, Renaissance, Classical, and Modern architecture. THAT got me hot. I got her number. THAT ( and the fact that chicks aren't fat.) is why I love EE.

Back to earlier life priorities--while Johnny MBA was topping up his stock portfolio, (what was in his brain? widgetsdollarswidgetsdollars...) I was earning the equivalent of 3 college degrees, writing songs and screenplays. I wouldn't advocate this type of life unless you are equally eccentric and have some talent and drive.

The whole siren-song trap of the consumerist West is "...work a little more, you're almost good enough, if you just have a little more money you can be OK..." and being over 50 I've felt my health decline enough to realize that's the model of Capitalism-- use you up while you struggle to "make good", then spit you out when you're too worn out to enjoy life.

I worked until I had an independent income so I could live where hot chicks are. Then I said FUCK YOU POD. FUCK YOU 3X, CUBICLE-POD-DEATHCELL-TOMB. I do NOTHING for POD anymore.

I also spent my 20's playing the guitar FTW and having fun then too. So, by the time I go wide on a cliffside road's bend on the Amalfi coast at 77 years old, the POD will only have had me for about 20 years out of my whole life. And as the sea rushes towards me, I'll make sure to say one last FU again to the POD.

The whole idea is to cheat the POD as much as you can, because you can't cheat The Giant Hand, it gets everyone.

Brilliant. Just brilliant! This is what the Dos Equis man would write.

[iknowexactly]

Thank you for the question about POD. The answer is... ummm.. well, the answer is....it's complicated hahaha. I came up with the idea where I worked in a State bureaucracy that is paying my pension now.

There was a...ummm. buxom young minority woman who also felt out of place and we became partners in making fun of the sterile, boring quality of the place.

One day, as a joke, I told her I was going to put up laser-printed 8x11 sheets of paper all around the inside of my cubicle with the huge, single word "POD" printed on each.

She started laughing ( This with the POD SUPERVISOR only meters away) and advised/admonished me "Don't do that... don't do that.." although she too was against POD and had actually won a victory over them in some labor dispute.

So to be as honest as a person who doesn't know what he is talking about can be, it's sort of an abstract term for a deadening physical/psychological place where you don't want to be.

I told another minority co-worker I worked with in a different POD, who always said half-humorously that he was a "slave of the State":

The first step to liberation is REALIZING YOU ARE A SLAVE.

All the rest is just logistics.

Part of my punishment ( I use work and punishment as interchangeable terms. Work is punishment for not being smart enough to figure out a fun way to make a living. ) was working in a prison in health care. Many of my patients were prisoners with life.
The ones who "had a date" were deeply different psychologically. Even if it was fifteen years away, they didn't tend to suffer the same kind of despair. Once they were about four years from release, they became almost giddy. There were very, very expert at waiting. I learned from them.

When I had about two years to go, I downloaded a free grid-calendar thing from the 'net, so the two years covered two pages with a little box for each day. I kept it in the grey steel drawer of my desk.

When I would think about it, I would pull it out and cross off the five or ten days that I had worked since the last examination of the sheet. I had a RED PEN that I would cross out the days with, and used it for nothing else. The pen was FUCK-THE-POD red.

I could see the grid fill up, after about four months it was 1/6 filled! I could see how getting out FOR GOOD was something I could make a reality just by showing up. Although I did try to be a good worker. I did everything my boss asked to the best of my ability, including reading HER mind as bosses want you to. I was a samurai, waiting for freedom.

My case may be a little different than most readers, as I had a specific day that I made my pension. I called the pension department up every few months to make SURE there was no mistake, that in early January I would be "vested."
One rep even offered to figure it out to the hour. She warned "even fifteen minutes can make the difference"; triggering images of fools who walked out an hour early and ruined their retirement.

For most people, saving up a large amount of solid, dividend paying stocks that will pay enough in dividends could serve the same purpose. There is a category of stocks called "Dividend Aristocrats" that have INCREASED per share dividends EVERY year for twenty five years in a row without interruption. I give that kind of track record more credit than some doom-sayer who writes a column. That doom sayer still HAS A JOB, so how smart can he be? While millions of people are living comfortably and quietly off ATT (5.9%/yr), MCD (2.9%/yr), and other companies' dividends. Both those companies continued to INCREASE their dividends yearly through the crisis of 2007-2009.

Research the cash flow etc of the company, but that is one way to try to get the security of a pension.

And give a final, heartfelt FU to the POD.

[Jalouse]

I'm definitely in accordance with you iknowexactly, the only point we differ is that I'd like to have more income. What you have is fine in some places but in a lot of places it really won't cut it.
I feel like I can easily live a simple life but I don't want to be counting the pennies every month.

[iknowexactly]

(01-09-2012 03:54 PM)Jalouse Wrote:  

I'm definitely in accordance with you iknowexactly, the only point we differ is that I'd like to have more income. What you have is fine in some places but in a lot of places it really won't cut it.
I feel like I can easily live a simple life but I don't want to be counting the pennies every month.

Yeah it sucks to not have Paris or Oslo, for instance, as an option. But it would have taken another 2-3 years of saving up--the healthiest 2-3 years I probably have left.

[Amour Fou]

(01-08-2012 12:55 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

I'm an eccentric, intellectual snob and look down on tacky shit like impressing girls with cars, and I look down on girls who are impressed by cars. I've always excelled at school, and I also am completely lacking in common sense and business sense.

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I've instead developed my INNER WORLD so that I am interesting in a way other than as a supplier of junk.

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Back to earlier life priorities--while Johnny MBA was topping up his stock portfolio, (what was in his brain? widgetsdollarswidgetsdollars...) I was earning the equivalent of 3 college degrees, writing songs and screenplays. I wouldn't advocate this type of life unless you are equally eccentric and have some talent and drive.

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The whole idea is to cheat the POD as much as you can, because you can't cheat The Giant Hand, it gets everyone.

This feels like having and older version of myself talk!