[Tbone]

I'm living MY dream, which is to be able to go where ever I want whenever I want. Everything else that happens is gravy.

Sounds simple, but all I ever dreamed about was having time freedom. I can care less about all the material bullshit. I have some of those things, but all I really care about is owning my time.

[Pusscrook]

(12-26-2011 11:33 PM)Tbone Wrote:  

I'm living MY dream, which is to be able to go where ever I want whenever I want. Everything else that happens is gravy.

Sounds simple, but all I ever dreamed about was having time freedom. I can care less about all the material bullshit. I have some of those things, but all I really care about is owning my time.

What is time? Do you quantify time by hours that you have to do what you want, or by freedom from everything that controls your time?

[Tbone]

(12-27-2011 01:07 AM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

(12-26-2011 11:33 PM)Tbone Wrote:  

I'm living MY dream, which is to be able to go where ever I want whenever I want. Everything else that happens is gravy.

Sounds simple, but all I ever dreamed about was having time freedom. I can care less about all the material bullshit. I have some of those things, but all I really care about is owning my time.

What is time? Do you quantify time by hours that you have to do what you want, or by freedom from everything that controls your time?

Freedom from things that control my time.

[WestIndianArchie]

(12-22-2011 10:35 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

What is your definition of freedom, Archie?

I'm a simple man.

1) Your income comes in regardless of how many hours you put in.

don't trade your time for money.

You aren't working for someone. You aren't being paid an hourly wage or making a salary. You aren't dependent on landing the next big client, hell the next client.

You can wear a suit if you want (I love wearing mine)
or you can wear jeans.

You work with people you want to work with.

2) With that extra time, you do the things you like to do.

That's it, not really too much to it.

I know folks that are basically doing this, either they're traders, real estate guys, insurance sales people, jewelry makers, selling digital products, selling physical products, so on and so forth.

I used to sell records on e-bay, and even though the money was a lot less than being a lawyer, but I was free. Paid my rent, hung out, had a good time.

I just recently fell back into moving product online, and now I'm hooked with the idea of finding niche markets and supplying their needs. And nowadays, most of the product sourcing, marketing, and fulfillment can be handled by other people.

WIA

[Pusscrook]

(12-27-2011 10:34 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(12-22-2011 10:35 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

What is your definition of freedom, Archie?

I'm a simple man.

1) Your income comes in regardless of how many hours you put in.

don't trade your time for money.

You aren't working for someone. You aren't being paid an hourly wage or making a salary. You aren't dependent on landing the next big client, hell the next client.

You can wear a suit if you want (I love wearing mine)
or you can wear jeans.

You work with people you want to work with.

2) With that extra time, you do the things you like to do.

That's it, not really too much to it.

I know folks that are basically doing this, either they're traders, real estate guys, insurance sales people, jewelry makers, selling digital products, selling physical products, so on and so forth.

I used to sell records on e-bay, and even though the money was a lot less than being a lawyer, but I was free. Paid my rent, hung out, had a good time.

I just recently fell back into moving product online, and now I'm hooked with the idea of finding niche markets and supplying their needs. And nowadays, most of the product sourcing, marketing, and fulfillment can be handled by other people.

WIA

Arch,being that more and more of your rights to liberty, and justice are eroding faster than a bangladeshi house built in a rice field, how much do you think that affects the pursuit of happiness?

[WestIndianArchie]

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[Pusscrook]

(12-28-2011 04:27 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(12-27-2011 08:01 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

Arch,being that more and more of your rights to liberty, and justice are eroding faster than a bangladeshi house built in a rice field, how much do you think that affects the pursuit of happiness?

That's a good question.

I always think that if push came to shove here in the US, I could go to the Caribbean and get on with some ruling party. Advisor, money man, counsel, whatever.

But one of my co-workers, his family was tight with what was the ruling party of JA, and when the election results came out, they all had to leave. On some Holocaust/Rwanda type stuff, they're assets and businesses came under scrutiny, and it's not unheard of for "Party Violence" to reach "staunch supporters".

But of the 3 options that we have as RVF'ers to make it happen
1) Vagabond like Roosh
2) Run a business/make big scores like gmanifesto
3) get on with a multi-national

I like #2 the best.

It's tough though. In addition to the American lifestyle coming under serious threat from all angles, Sex and the City Culture is spreading throughout the world. 22 year olds aspiring to be 39 year olds with nice shoes and no man.

So arguably we are in the "end times".

But even if that's the case, it's only gonna go down from here, I'm going to fuck as many bitches as possible, collect as many flags, and stack as much chedda to make my fall from grace not so painful.

I once saw a documentary in which I think the daughter of Michael Manley was talking about how different political parties hire gangs to suppress votes there.

I have never understood anyone who is rich and doesn't wish to fly under the radar in this country. It is so simple. The american dream, is as simple as taking candy from a baby. I think foreigners understand this a hell of a lot better, than the natives themselves. Concrete jungle, where the fittest of the fittest know how to survive.

[hun73r]

The American dream is a recipe for failure now that stocks/housing will never produce decent returns.

Why would anyone trade 40 of their best years to get a house, a million or
two in the bank (if the economy does exceedingly well) only to realize
1. That's not enough $$ to live large
2. You're fucking 70 years old... to old to live large.

I used to buy into it with the houses, cars, plane. But living location-independent (thank you internet) is so much more rewarding. Traveling to countries where people actually have fun regardless of their bank account is where it's at. It opened up my eyes to how little it takes to live anywhere, do anything.

I say retire now. I say fuck the American dream.

[blurb]

Why the conventional "American Dream" financial plan doesn't work and everyone needs to evaluate theirs.

These are not my own, but M.J. DeMarco's.

Unspoken Truth #2: If you can't find a job, their plan doesn't work.

Unspoken Truth #3: If a weak economy and a poor stock market doesn't yield 8% for 50 years, their plan doesn't work.

Unspoken Truth #4: You'll likely end up old, disabled, tired, and/or dead before you can enjoy the fruit of retirement.

Unspoken Truth #5: IF you survive 50 years of jobs, your millions will be virtually worthless in today's dollars. (Think rising costs and inflation)

(12-30-2011 09:06 PM)hun73r Wrote:  

I say retire now. I say fuck the American dream.

[jmoney29]

My definition of the American Dream is a life where I'm able to focus on non-material things that make my life more fulfilling. I want to use work as a means to gain access to new experiences(travel,hobbies,etc.), instead of a means of surviving(shelter, transportation,food). I'm currently living the latter, but I have concrete plans about how to improve my situation in the upcoming year.

[Giovonny]

To me, Roosh is a good example of the American dream.