Quote: (12-20-2011 01:10 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I love the second-tier travel style (http://www.rooshv.com/the-benefits-of-li...l-cities), but I wonder if in due time those will be slightly spoiled as mainstream tourists recognize that first-tier cities are tourist traps with little culture.
For the purest women, I think third-tier travel will be necessary for countries that are being rapidly Westernized. Has anyone tried this out? Which cities have you been? By third-tier I mean random cities under 250,000 people that are not in the guidebook. You've never heard of them before and research on the internet comes up with mostly blanks. There will not be a single hotel or hostel that you can book online. Visiting one will be an experience in randomness.
Pros: Great responses. Untainted women who see you as a bridge to a better future.
Cons: No nightlife until the weekend. Nothing to really do. Hard to find any type of lodging. Small size means you will not rack up a lot of notches but will get one or two "good" girls (this could be a pro for some).
Maybe not this trip, but for a country like Brazil or Poland I'd be interested in just throwing a dart on a map and visiting the nearest small city to it. As long as it has one club and a central square for day game, I think the pussy rewards would be great, especially for those players who are slowing down and wouldn't mind hanging with just one chick for their stay.
From my experience of visiting tiny towns in Minas Gerais, Brazil, the city needs at least 75,000 people with a relatively compact center.
Its quite complex. The best way to identify "untainted" areas is not to always look at the size of the cities, its to look more at the actual nature of the cities themselves I think, but predominantly looking at what drives the local economies. Sure any small town is going to be relatively untouched, but they are still quite shit to spend more than a week in.
Its not that all Tier 1 cities and capitals are major tourist destinations, its that those cities often tend to have the bulk of a countries major trade. They therefore attract a lot of people who go these hubs looking for work, but at the same time businessmen are in and out of the place constantly. The better the local economy performs and grows the busier those cities will get. Tier 1's tend to become melting pots as a result. Throw into the mix that many are tourist destinations too and the sheer volume of foreigners moving through the place spikes. Tier 1's almost always become more cosmopolitan as a result.
If tourism is driving the local economy, then the size of the city will be irrelevant too. Women who are tourists will be whoring it up because they are on holiday, but the locals will always be a different story. Think of Cartagena or Koh Samui
This is where it gets more complex though. Not all major trading hubs and not all major tourist destinations are going to see foreigners from every corner of the world either. Odessa in the Ukraine is a big trading hub and is a pretty popular tourist destination, but its a trading hub for the east and its a holiday destination predominantly for Eastern Europeans, Russians and people from the middle east. Minsk is a major capital and highly industrialised with good activity, but they dont see westerners at all really.
I have done a hell of a lot of the smaller towns and cities across Russia and EE, but this is because many of the mining sites are in rural areas in the first place. Work took me there. You are right about these places being "purer" but they do come with their own challenges.
Mixx pointed out language, which is going to be the biggest challenge. Another is basic infrastructure, which is often quite crap and makes getting around or living comfortably difficult at times. The other major problem you have is boredom. There is so little to do in some of these places. In saying that, being a foreigner will be a major plus, so overcoming these problems means you will almost always hit gold. You also get to understand the real culture of the people and the more rural you go the more hospitable they become. This is true of almost every country I have ever been to.
My list, be advised very little English spoken, and these are cities that dont get many tourists or westerners, so not really tier 3 so to speak.
Samara, Russia
Women are ridiculous. Industrial, crap city close to an amazing river spoiled by soviet concrete box apartments and drunkards in all the parks. There are quite a few clubs and drinking holes and its a city of over a million, but you will see very few foreigners there. This is a real Russian city. Russians often talk about the "real Russia" and that is it.
Minsk, Belarus
Its a major capital that is being all but ignored by most of Europe. They dont see tourists and its a country that clearly wishes communism never ended. Its stuck in the 80's.
Vladivostok, Russia
Its a big city that does not see many westerners. There are a lot of the women are mixed Asian and the results are excellent. Tough to get to and one of the reasons why it sees so few tourists. Most of the trade is with Asians, so western businessmen are not as numerous either. There is a ton to do here and the nightlife is pretty good.
Tartu, Estonia
Student town in Estonia. Few hordes here and because there are so many students the nightlife is pretty good and multiple languages will be more common.
Kaunas, Lithuania
Everyone is always talking about Vilnius, when Kaunas is where they should be going. The hordes are going to be descending on Vilnius soon enough and you can bet your bottom dollar that it will be a budget travel destination soon. Kaunas on the other hand will have a lot left in it. Its another student town, but it has really good nightlife. There is quite a bit of business that is done there, so while you see foreigners they are rarely westerners. You dont get many tourists, most of the tourism is in Vilnius. The only way to get there is by bus or train, but infrastructure is actually pretty good.
Harrys Challenge to anyone:
Tiraspol, Moldova
No airport. Its only has like one major street. Its not even really in Moldova, its like an independent disputed state within Moldova that only Russia recognises. Its run by the mafia and soviet bankers. English has never even been heard on anything but the one TV they share. The only way to get there is by bus from Odessa or Chisinau, and you need to bribe the border guards to get in and out.
Hotels are crap. Food is crap. Nightlife is crap. The tourists are normally too afraid to get off the bus.
If you can speak even a little broken Russian though, there is gold in them thar hills. There are actually a few bars and shitty clubs and there is not a foreigner in sight. Base yourself out of Odessa and head over for a week tops, but it is as untouched as it gets.
It looks like I have a 3 week stint in Turkmenistan coming up late March. Have not been there since 98, but Im being told things have improved a lot. Ill get a report out when its done.
Also, with regards to the hotties leaving the smaller towns, this is not true. Many leave to study and work, but just as many stay behind.
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