Logical Reasons Not To Marry
06-11-2016, 06:15 PM
Quote: (06-11-2016 05:19 PM)Sonoma Wrote:
There are cases where it's possible to marry wayyyy the fuck up and benefit as a male. It's definitely uncommon, but doable
In the US at least, this is actually true. But only in a particular sense.
The system punishes the higher earner in a divorce. It doesn't care about gender too much. A woman making 200k and a man making 40k (or nothing) and the woman is just as screwed as a typical man in a divorce rape situation. women generally marry up due to a variety of factors but to be clear again: women CAN get divorced raped; it just is very rare to see since few women actually marry down financially speaking.
That said: A man who marries up financially is generally marrying a careerist militant feminist who is 35+ years old; of which nearly all don't have the proper mindset/are not conditioned to provide for a family and that matters when times get tough.
Then there is the issue of dealing with a careerist militant feminist and all the bullshit that entails all the time. It just isn't natural for a woman to be a provider and a man to be domestic dependent. I've never seen a happy couple where the woman was the provider and the man was the dependent; it really goes against every natural instinct that has been bred into each gender since the dawn of time.
Anyhow....to marry up financially to a submissive, feminine woman below 25 (the ONLY type of woman any man should ever consider marrying) is virtually impossible in the US. Just finding that type of woman disregarding the money part of the equation is extremely difficult as it is. You would have to find something like a humbled trust fund/daughter of big money kid (Ivanka Trump, for example), a rich celebrity, or a young successful supermodel. But to get access to the aforementioned three, you probably would need to be highly successful yourself to begin with. Not as rich as them but still very successful. And not 100k job "successful" either; like sold a company, played in a semi-known band, ran/run a company kind of successful.
How many of the aforementioned three examples do you know of that married way down, like someone of very average means? Talk about an example of a needle size box inside another needle size box in a giant haystack: A financially successful/well-off humbled woman with a submissive/feminine personality, who is willing to settle down and get knocked up before age 25? AND to a guy of relative average success and means?
There has to be less than a 100 women in the entire US (entire world?) that fit that profile.
Can a regular guy marry up financially in the US? Oh yeah... but it will be to a woman who is the epitome of everything a man should avoid in seeking a wife.
For a regular man who wants to be a sole-provider in a traditional relationship, the most important thing is being in an environment where you have some leverage as a man; particularly legal leverage (i.e. a place where you can't be divorced rape). Culture matters too but women (or people in general) cannot be financially incentivized to blow up marriages because well, people are gonna blow them up usually.
In short: There is no place today for sensible people who are somewhat risk adverse, like many good provider types, to have marriage/children in America. The proper environment simply doesn't exist today. The only solutions are to either:
1) Fix your current environment or
2) Move to an environment that will help you achieve your objectives by giving you a fair amount of leverage to protect yourself.
The former is nearly impossible and presents enormous challenges but the latter is very possible. If you want a decent chance at having a successful family life as a provider/higher earner, you must leave the US. It's unfortunately that simple.
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). I am fiercely independent, and find female company very tedious for the most part, but a 'good' woman would make my life significantly easier, and probably contribute significantly to my success.