NLP field report. She buys me a drink, sits on my lap, long make out, she # closes me
07-20-2009, 12:36 AM
Roosh, I'm fairly sold on NLP. I'm incorporating it with the material from Bang and so far it has proven to be a deadly molotov cocktail.
Field Report:
Wing: Quickkill (Ross Jeffries' top student in 2000)
It all started at QuickKill's seminar. I was already vaguely familiar with NLP, since I had read Ross Jefferies' speed seduction years ago, but I never felt I understood the techniques quite enough for them to be useful. However, Quickkill took my mind outside of the equivocated-sounding theoretical textbook side of NLP by simply being more to the point - and much more concise and pragmatic; that's what my mind responds to best.
In any case, I only really remembered a few key techniques: eliciting and anchoring positive energy, state-matching and mirroring, and tossing away bad energy.
That's basically all I could remember, but it was all I needed. After the seminar we all end up on the 2nd and 3rd floor of this bar in Adam's Morgan called Reef. There I spot this cute girl in a 2 set and open with my Roosh opener, saying, "you guys look like you're having more fun than anyone else here." As usual It hooked. From here, I'd normally have all kinds of issues holding the conversation, holding the girl's attention, and carrying over to any kind of sexual tension. With the knowledge I gained from Quickkill's NLP seminar, I didn't feel the need to desperately find a way to grab and hold her attention, it just happened. It was all smooth sailing.
Soon after my opener, Quickkill enters the set and games the other girl. I've never had such a solid wing in night game.
After introducing him to the set, I bring my attention to my target. I did a few cold reads to elicit personal information -- for example, I found out she went to culinary school and loved great food. I then used this info to ask her about any details, thereby eliciting from her positive life experiences (in her case, cooking delicious food).
And No, she wasn't fat at all -- rather tall and thin.
Anyway, I'd ask her how she felt when she made a really great dish, and I had her describe how it tasted. This caused her to remember that dish, and how accomplished she felt; which brought her into an altered state of only the most positive energy. As soon as she got to that positive, happy state, I'd touch her (this was my anchor) along side an occasional smile, tossing of my own hair, and etc...
Perhaps I was using multiple anchors for the same state. I don't know, it just worked... I'm not sure exactly what my anchor was. It may not have been that touch on the shoulder, or the tossing of my hair, but all that matters is that there was an anchor there somewhere, and it caused her to get really excited. She started smiling more and more, getting excited.
Without fully realizing it, I was inserting "embedded commands" and thoughts by using words like "orgasm" to describe to her how I was feeling when she talked about this chocolate cake she made. I said to her something like, "such a cake would leave an 'orgasm' in my mouth." Sounds stupid, but hey, it worked.
As all of this is going on, I mirrored her hand gestures, her smiles, the way she turned her head, squinted her eyes, etc... When she tossed her hair, I tossed mine.. I copied as many of her movements and expressions as possible, and it seemed to really turn her on.
If a negative thought came out of her mouth, I'd just pretend it was a piece of trash in my hands, and throw it away by making the appropriate hand gestures. I'd combine this with a verbal explanation of what I was doing, telling her to "just take this bad thought and toss it."
To make a long story short, we ended up having a lengthy 35 minute conversation filled with sexual innuendos. Before this seminar, I couldn't imagine keeping a woman so enthralled in a conversation without some elaborate routine or conversational game plan. In this case however, I didn't use any routines beyond the opener itself, I just connected with her by repeating a few, very simple techniques.
She was sitting down next to her girl friend, while Quickkill and I were standing; if you're familiar with basic Mystery Method, the MM doctrine says we should have been blown out within 30 minutes because they had the dominant position (they were sitting). Instead, they wanted more, and they were already looking DTF. I could just feel it.
They decided they want drinks and went to the bar for a few minutes. I started thinking I went wrong somewhere, was it over? What happened, why would they want to leave us for booze if they were enjoying our company so much? These thoughts faded when I saw the optimism on Quickkill's face. Quickkill and I stole their seats and chatted for a bit. Not long after, they came back, and with drinks for us. They bought us drinks!
We all down our drinks and then Quickkill starts making out with the other girl. I'm still talking to my target, when I realize that she needs to sit down, on my lap. I just tell her to come close so I can hear her better, and I physically lead her into my lap. After a few more minutes of conversation, my face is well within kissing range, so i go for it. And that's it, make out!
Remember: getting within 2 inches of her face after Kino is your permission slip to go for the kiss.
It was like a switch in her head was flipped. She became aggressive, putting her tongue in my mouth on the first kiss. This went on over and over and over again for another 25 minutes, with lots of tongue on her part. At this point, I wasn't paying too much attention to the interaction between this other girl and Quickkill, but she stops making out with Quickkill and tells us that her and her friend have to go to some after party, but that they want to see us later. I gave my target a goodbye make out and thought It was over for that night, as if my best bet was a day 2. However, Quickkill later pointed out the truth: these two girls wanted to find an excuse to separate from each other so they wouldn't feel as guilty about sleeping with two strangers (Quickkill and I) that they met at this bar.
Quickkill already has the other girl's number. I didn't even ask my target for her number, she just suggests I get her number out of the blue. It was another WTF moment for me. I've never been number closed by a cute girl. Then again, I've never even gotten a kiss-close from a girl I just met, much less a steamy make-out.
We part ways and call it a night. Both girls were totally DTF, but I wasn't in the head space to deal with bringing a girl home only to take her back to her place the next morning. I was so satisfied with the situation, I was just too happy to care about anything more.
Let's hope I get a day 2 with this girl, although I sense she's already feeling buyer's remorse. I should have struck when the iron was hot and banged her.
Next time I'll f-close.
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What I did right:
State matching....
State eliciting...
Mirroring language, gestures, inflection, breathing, etc...
Anchoring.
Tossing bad emotions.
Getting her to buy me a drink. Getting her to sit on my lap. Getting the make out. Getting her to number close me. Pretty much everything.
What I did wrong:
She was DTF, but I just didn't bother to f-close.
Field Report:
Wing: Quickkill (Ross Jeffries' top student in 2000)
It all started at QuickKill's seminar. I was already vaguely familiar with NLP, since I had read Ross Jefferies' speed seduction years ago, but I never felt I understood the techniques quite enough for them to be useful. However, Quickkill took my mind outside of the equivocated-sounding theoretical textbook side of NLP by simply being more to the point - and much more concise and pragmatic; that's what my mind responds to best.
In any case, I only really remembered a few key techniques: eliciting and anchoring positive energy, state-matching and mirroring, and tossing away bad energy.
That's basically all I could remember, but it was all I needed. After the seminar we all end up on the 2nd and 3rd floor of this bar in Adam's Morgan called Reef. There I spot this cute girl in a 2 set and open with my Roosh opener, saying, "you guys look like you're having more fun than anyone else here." As usual It hooked. From here, I'd normally have all kinds of issues holding the conversation, holding the girl's attention, and carrying over to any kind of sexual tension. With the knowledge I gained from Quickkill's NLP seminar, I didn't feel the need to desperately find a way to grab and hold her attention, it just happened. It was all smooth sailing.
Soon after my opener, Quickkill enters the set and games the other girl. I've never had such a solid wing in night game.
After introducing him to the set, I bring my attention to my target. I did a few cold reads to elicit personal information -- for example, I found out she went to culinary school and loved great food. I then used this info to ask her about any details, thereby eliciting from her positive life experiences (in her case, cooking delicious food).
And No, she wasn't fat at all -- rather tall and thin.
Anyway, I'd ask her how she felt when she made a really great dish, and I had her describe how it tasted. This caused her to remember that dish, and how accomplished she felt; which brought her into an altered state of only the most positive energy. As soon as she got to that positive, happy state, I'd touch her (this was my anchor) along side an occasional smile, tossing of my own hair, and etc...
Perhaps I was using multiple anchors for the same state. I don't know, it just worked... I'm not sure exactly what my anchor was. It may not have been that touch on the shoulder, or the tossing of my hair, but all that matters is that there was an anchor there somewhere, and it caused her to get really excited. She started smiling more and more, getting excited.
Without fully realizing it, I was inserting "embedded commands" and thoughts by using words like "orgasm" to describe to her how I was feeling when she talked about this chocolate cake she made. I said to her something like, "such a cake would leave an 'orgasm' in my mouth." Sounds stupid, but hey, it worked.
As all of this is going on, I mirrored her hand gestures, her smiles, the way she turned her head, squinted her eyes, etc... When she tossed her hair, I tossed mine.. I copied as many of her movements and expressions as possible, and it seemed to really turn her on.
If a negative thought came out of her mouth, I'd just pretend it was a piece of trash in my hands, and throw it away by making the appropriate hand gestures. I'd combine this with a verbal explanation of what I was doing, telling her to "just take this bad thought and toss it."
To make a long story short, we ended up having a lengthy 35 minute conversation filled with sexual innuendos. Before this seminar, I couldn't imagine keeping a woman so enthralled in a conversation without some elaborate routine or conversational game plan. In this case however, I didn't use any routines beyond the opener itself, I just connected with her by repeating a few, very simple techniques.
She was sitting down next to her girl friend, while Quickkill and I were standing; if you're familiar with basic Mystery Method, the MM doctrine says we should have been blown out within 30 minutes because they had the dominant position (they were sitting). Instead, they wanted more, and they were already looking DTF. I could just feel it.
They decided they want drinks and went to the bar for a few minutes. I started thinking I went wrong somewhere, was it over? What happened, why would they want to leave us for booze if they were enjoying our company so much? These thoughts faded when I saw the optimism on Quickkill's face. Quickkill and I stole their seats and chatted for a bit. Not long after, they came back, and with drinks for us. They bought us drinks!
We all down our drinks and then Quickkill starts making out with the other girl. I'm still talking to my target, when I realize that she needs to sit down, on my lap. I just tell her to come close so I can hear her better, and I physically lead her into my lap. After a few more minutes of conversation, my face is well within kissing range, so i go for it. And that's it, make out!
Remember: getting within 2 inches of her face after Kino is your permission slip to go for the kiss.
It was like a switch in her head was flipped. She became aggressive, putting her tongue in my mouth on the first kiss. This went on over and over and over again for another 25 minutes, with lots of tongue on her part. At this point, I wasn't paying too much attention to the interaction between this other girl and Quickkill, but she stops making out with Quickkill and tells us that her and her friend have to go to some after party, but that they want to see us later. I gave my target a goodbye make out and thought It was over for that night, as if my best bet was a day 2. However, Quickkill later pointed out the truth: these two girls wanted to find an excuse to separate from each other so they wouldn't feel as guilty about sleeping with two strangers (Quickkill and I) that they met at this bar.
Quickkill already has the other girl's number. I didn't even ask my target for her number, she just suggests I get her number out of the blue. It was another WTF moment for me. I've never been number closed by a cute girl. Then again, I've never even gotten a kiss-close from a girl I just met, much less a steamy make-out.
We part ways and call it a night. Both girls were totally DTF, but I wasn't in the head space to deal with bringing a girl home only to take her back to her place the next morning. I was so satisfied with the situation, I was just too happy to care about anything more.
Let's hope I get a day 2 with this girl, although I sense she's already feeling buyer's remorse. I should have struck when the iron was hot and banged her.
Next time I'll f-close.
<hr>
What I did right:
State matching....
State eliciting...
Mirroring language, gestures, inflection, breathing, etc...
Anchoring.
Tossing bad emotions.
Getting her to buy me a drink. Getting her to sit on my lap. Getting the make out. Getting her to number close me. Pretty much everything.
What I did wrong:
She was DTF, but I just didn't bother to f-close.