I've been here a bit over 6 months and have made a very earnest effort to gather as much data on this place as possible and still, every time Kona drops Oahu knowledge, I find myself learning something. Mahalo for all of it brah....
I still intend to try out the strip club to MAC move you posted about recently. I live so close to MAC that it could be golden. That's not a P4P type thing is it? I'm under the impression from your post that its just a stripper swoop.
Also, Kona, do you think it'd be worth it for me to plan on paying for a few sessions at one of those North Shore surf schools once the swells start rolling in? I need to get some comfort in bigger surf. I've got a few friends that I can go with but if these schools are really legit they might be good at shortening my learning curve.
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Something you should remember is that this place is expensive. Sometimes you gotta spend a little cash to get laid.
This. 100% this. I actually only find a few things in Hawaii more expensive that they were back East (I pay about $250 less per month in rent + utilities here actually) and nightlife is one of them.
The problem is that most of the places that stay good past about midnight charge cover. So if you are rolling dolo and trying to find the best spot, that can be a huge hit to your $$$. Then, I plan on $20 per round of drinks (one for me, one for the girl). It can add up quickly and that doesn't even account for taxis or food. Taxis will rape you here, especially if you are used to NYC or other major city cab fares. I've been making attempts to get in with bouncers to mitigate the cover charge damage.
Kona is right about Addiction. Tons of really nice talent but it is $20 at the door, tough to get in if you aren't rolling with chicks or have a connection, and its expensive as fuck. I know the guy at the door and I've still had to pay 1 time out of the 3 that I've been there.
Kona, have you checked out The M at restaurant row (The Standard)? I've been picking up some buzz on that place but have yet to go.
The good thing about the hotel/restaurant/lounge type bars is that they don't charge cover but very few of them have much of anything going on past midnight so you have to get an early start.
I find it very interesting that all the places Kona mentioned (Halekulani, Moana Surfrider, etc...) are my typical date places. I've never really scoped them for potential to swoop. What's your move in those places Kona? Just grabbing a seat/drink and waiting for a good candidate to come along and then selectively approach? That's basically my move at Duke's although when it gets real crowded its a little more conducive to moving around a little more, especially when they have music on the lanai.
Kelly O'Neils is another good bet. No cover spot and it will stay open and fun till late (4am). They also always have pretty good cover bands playing classic rock in there. Another move you can try is to hit up Lava Rock in the International Marketplace around 10:00pm. No cover and this is the first stop on the pub crawl. You'll find some drunk tourist girls looking to have fun. The booze cruises are also good for that. About $20-30 for all-you-can drink and this time of year the sunset cruises are just packed with partiers.
You can try your hand on Japanese girls at Genius Lounge. That's another date spot of mine, but it has no cover and there are always some very sexy, classy, fashionable Japanese girls in there.
I've never even heard of Vice, I'll have to check it out.
All of that said, if you don't do day game here, you are selling yourself short. I was a big club-game fan back East and rarely did any day game. So I had to work on it pretty hard once I got here, but those efforts have really paid off. There are endless opportunities during the day, especially if you are active and outdoor-oriented. I am also trying to build my own income streams right now without any "real" job, so the budget savings in day game are very important given the cost of going out here.
Finally, the thing I really love about girls here is that there is a bit of everything. Local chicks. Mainland transplants. Asian transplants. International exchange students. Tourists from the US and abroad.
If you aren't having success on one of those groups, you can either evaluate your approach (I don't really hit on local chicks in night game for example, they are much more receptive in day game or social circle) or just switch to another group.
I also think if you really have your shit together, this is a place where you can just be swimming in pussy. Each of those groups has a corresponding group of guys and I have not seen many examples of guys that are able to successfully get girls in more than one of those categories so competition can be leveraged. For example, many local guys I know are pretty poor with non-local chicks. I suspect that they are so used to having deep, embedded social circle connections to so many beautiful locals girls that when they have to actually cold approach a girl that they don't have that commonality with, they get a bit lost (what do you think Kona?). Same goes for the international exchange guys. Hopeless on mainland or local girls for the most part. Every now and then I'll see a guy from the mainland with game successfully working a Japanese girl or an exchange student but I think a legit player can move between all the groups pretty easily if he knows what's what.
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