[tenderman100]

Found this site through a commenter on one of Roissy's posts.

http://www.secretsocietyofwomen.com/

I went right to the section on "Infidelity" and of course, the posts are just what you'd expect, the hypergamy hamster running wildly in the heads of the lizards. They're "struggling." Their heads are "just not on straight." They "don't know what to do."

You know, I should feel bad for them...but when I read these, I just laugh out loud. It's fucking hilarious.

Yep, women are lizards, but when they talk amongst themselves they admit that they are completely nuts.

This one was just classic.

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I've been married for 9yrs. and have 2 kids 4 &7. Our marriage use to be good until the last few years. I have no intrest in sex with him and did it just to make him happy. It got to the point i was trying to figure out what i was missing. This past May I started talking to a long lost friend online and we really connected, in Aug. we met up and we had the most amazing sex. I knew right there it wasnt me and that I wasnt into my husband. Ive been talking with this guy everyday since Aug and we spent a weekend together in Oct., it was really nice and we really have a strong connection after 14yrs.. I really feel I've fallen in love him and not sure what to do, we dont see each other that often since he's 400 miles away. Im at the point I dont know what to do, I dont want to hurt my kids or my husband. But I'm not happy in my marriage and this other guy really makes me see it. He's not pushing me to leave but he always says I deserve better. Looking for a little advice....since my heads not on straight I think about him all the time.

Here's another one. It's amazing.

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am on the verge of getting into a full blown affair. I love my husband but I need more... I need more affection. I need more sex! I need more variety. I am starving for more. He has told me I can have other men as long as he knows about it but I think he will react badly. "The one who got away" has been in contact. Never really out of contact actually. We have had an on and off thing for 12 years. About 6 years ago, he moved to California without warning and I considered it done. I move on. Obviously not fully on because I am still hung up. He only moved for a few months but I was done with him by the time I found out he was back. I am struggling because I want a fling and here he is a ready made fling. I know him, I am comfortable with him, I am ready. What's holding me back? I need something more (counseling?). I am confused. My husband will not give me more. I have begged, pleaded, threatened. I want more with my husband rather than missonary when he feels like it. He wont do more to me! It is basic sex. I am struggling! HELP!

Finally, here's one from the Sex board; first the post, then the comment that is a just a killer!!

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I am pretty much happily married but I am very unsatisfied in the bedroom. I had an affair, it was great sex. I think for me it was the attention, someone desiring me, wanting me that I enjoyed and now, crave. I do not want to hurt my husband. I have spoken with him about trying to improve our sex life, nothing has changed. I truly love him but am so hungry for the wanting, passion,the heat. I do not know what to do.

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if you want more and he's not willing to change.. either invest in some toys, get divorced, get a girlfriend or just cheat again...i widnt suggest the latter.. u both have hurt enough... but u have a choice hes obviously not gonna make a change so its uo to you... stay in the same situation or make a change.. i kno u prob dont wanna jump to a divorce and i get that// but u dont wanna wake up one day say whered my life go and hate him and urself for it... do for you!! be SELFISH!! but i would also take some time to reflect, heal and learn about yourself before u jump in the arms of another man...

That's right honey, be SELFISH. If you're good looking, come fuck me.

[Timoteo]

Yep...but if the situation were reversed, and a man complained about similar issues in his marriage and used them to justify cheating, they wouldn't want to hear it. They'd say cheating is always wrong. Men are pigs. Of course, the belief is that men ONLY cheat because they can and want to, while women are PUSHED to cheat because of neglect. I believe that folks have a fundamental right to happiness. If your man isn't making you happy in certain areas, go get it somewhere else. But don't begrudge a man the same latitude to get his own needs met if you don't want the job.

Me and one of my boys were talking about this this weekend. If a man is unhappy, he'll generally do what he has to to keep his family together. He'll carry the weight of his unhappiness. Maybe he'll cheat, but he'll keep going home to his wife, even though he really can't stand her. If a woman is unhappy, she'll just nuke the whole thing. If she's unhappy, EVERYONE around her has to feel her pain. If her renewed happiness comes at the price of everyone else's unhappiness, FUCK 'EM.

[el mechanico]

Here's one I just heard today at the gas station from my friend who got engaged a few months ago..

He grabs his girls phone when he suspects she's cheating and texts the guy "I'm pregnant" and waits for the response.

[tenderman100]

(11-22-2011 06:11 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Yep...but if the situation were reversed, and a man complained about similar issues in his marriage and used them to justify cheating, they wouldn't want to hear it. They'd say cheating is always wrong. Men are pigs. Of course, the belief is that men ONLY cheat because they can and want to, while women are PUSHED to cheat because of neglect. I believe that folks have a fundamental right to happiness. If your man isn't making you happy in certain areas, go get it somewhere else. But don't begrudge a man the same latitude to get his own needs met if you don't want the job.

Me and one of my boys were talking about this this weekend. If a man is unhappy, he'll generally do what he has to to keep his family together. He'll carry the weight of his unhappiness. Maybe he'll cheat, but he'll keep going home to his wife, even though he really can't stand her. If a woman is unhappy, she'll just nuke the whole thing. If she's unhappy, EVERYONE around her has to feel her pain. If her renewed happiness comes at the price of everyone else's unhappiness, FUCK 'EM.

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. The double standard is astonishing.

Of course, it goes beyond neglect for many. It has to do with the fact that the 'gina tingle is gone.

Look here's the reality, and you can consider it either awful or liberating. Lizards are ALWAYS on the lookout for the next best thing. That single 8HB you picked up and fucked like a porn star the first time after a night of shots -- she'll fuck around on you in a NYC minute at some point, even if the two of you have later established an "exclusive" LTR. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually.

In the end I guess I am a cynic...or a realist ...depending on your perspective.

[Timoteo]

(11-22-2011 06:35 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

(11-22-2011 06:11 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Yep...but if the situation were reversed, and a man complained about similar issues in his marriage and used them to justify cheating, they wouldn't want to hear it. They'd say cheating is always wrong. Men are pigs. Of course, the belief is that men ONLY cheat because they can and want to, while women are PUSHED to cheat because of neglect. I believe that folks have a fundamental right to happiness. If your man isn't making you happy in certain areas, go get it somewhere else. But don't begrudge a man the same latitude to get his own needs met if you don't want the job.

Me and one of my boys were talking about this this weekend. If a man is unhappy, he'll generally do what he has to to keep his family together. He'll carry the weight of his unhappiness. Maybe he'll cheat, but he'll keep going home to his wife, even though he really can't stand her. If a woman is unhappy, she'll just nuke the whole thing. If she's unhappy, EVERYONE around her has to feel her pain. If her renewed happiness comes at the price of everyone else's unhappiness, FUCK 'EM.

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. The double standard is astonishing.

Of course, it goes beyond neglect for many. It has to do with the fact that the 'gina tingle is gone.

Look here's the reality, and you can consider it either awful or liberating. Lizards are ALWAYS on the lookout for the next best thing. That single 8HB you picked up and fucked like a porn star the first time after a night of shots -- she'll fuck around on you in a NYC minute at some point, even if the two of you have later established an "exclusive" LTR. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually.

In the end I guess I am a cynic...or a realist ...depending on your perspective.

No...I think you have it right. Women are always on the lookout for the upgrade, for a better deal. When they find a better deal they'll look for a justification to leave the current for the next.

[Timoteo]

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am on the verge of getting into a full blown affair. I love my husband but I need more... I need more affection. I need more sex! I need more variety. I am starving for more. He has told me I can have other men as long as he knows about it but I think he will react badly. "The one who got away" has been in contact. Never really out of contact actually. We have had an on and off thing for 12 years. About 6 years ago, he moved to California without warning and I considered it done. I move on. Obviously not fully on because I am still hung up. He only moved for a few months but I was done with him by the time I found out he was back. I am struggling because I want a fling and here he is a ready made fling. I know him, I am comfortable with him, I am ready. What's holding me back? I need something more (counseling?). I am confused. My husband will not give me more. I have begged, pleaded, threatened. I want more with my husband rather than missonary when he feels like it. He wont do more to me! It is basic sex. I am struggling! HELP!

With this chick it's ALL about the 'gina tingle, or lack thereof. She never felt it for the hubby, but married him because he was the provider type. All of those OTHER intangibles were in place. But she always had the other dude in the back of her mind, and probably figured she could get what she wanted from beta man, and fuck a guy that gave her the tingles on the side. Then she could cash out beta man and have the best of both worlds again, with beta footing the bill.

[endobendo]

(11-22-2011 06:22 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Here's one I just heard today at the gas station from my friend who got engaged a few months ago..

He grabs his girls phone when he suspects she's cheating and texts the guy "I'm pregnant" and waits for the response.

[RedBull]

(11-22-2011 05:01 PM)tenderman100 Wrote:  

Found this site through a commenter on one of Roissy's posts.

http://www.secretsocietyofwomen.com/

I went right to the section on "Infidelity" and of course, the posts are just what you'd expect, the hypergamy hamster running wildly in the heads of the lizards. They're "struggling." Their heads are "just not on straight." They "don't know what to do."

You know, I should feel bad for them...but when I read these, I just laugh out loud. It's fucking hilarious.

Yep, women are lizards, but when they talk amongst themselves they admit that they are completely nuts.

shouldn't feel bad for women when players use them ?, they are up to worse shit (as referenced by your site). dirty lizards.

[Hooligan Harry]

What the hell is it with all this lizards nonsense? Good god that needs to stop

[vinman]

(11-22-2011 06:22 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Here's one I just heard today at the gas station from my friend who got engaged a few months ago..

He grabs his girls phone when he suspects she's cheating and texts the guy "I'm pregnant" and waits for the response.

Damn. That's slick.

[joehoya]

Forums like that a a great reminder of why I will NEVER get married.

If you want to check out a similar forum, go to ivillage and look in their relationship problems section:
Ivillage forums

That forum has no less than FIVE separate sub-forums devoted to affairs.

My favorite story is about some chick who cheated on her husband with some guy from work.

This ho starts banging this dude behind her husbands back, all the while, the dude is showering her with praise about how they are perfect together and he wants to be with her forever, yada yada yada. So the dumb bitch divorce her husband for this dude.

When she tells the dude that she is ready to be in a committed relationship with her, the dude tells her that he can't get over the fact that she CHEATED ON HER EX HUSBAND. His logic (which was perfect, btw) was that if she could do that skanky shit to her first husband then she could do it to him too. He then tells her that he has found a girl with better morals that he wants to be with instead.

[endobendo]

deleye

[ccurtis189]

(11-22-2011 06:11 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

Yep...but if the situation were reversed, and a man complained about similar issues in his marriage and used them to justify cheating, they wouldn't want to hear it. They'd say cheating is always wrong. Men are pigs. Of course, the belief is that men ONLY cheat because they can and want to, while women are PUSHED to cheat because of neglect. I believe that folks have a fundamental right to happiness. If your man isn't making you happy in certain areas, go get it somewhere else. But don't begrudge a man the same latitude to get his own needs met if you don't want the job.

Yep, they're just trying to take all fault away from themselves for cheating. And they do it because they refuse to reveal to anyone that they're looking for an upgrade.

[gringoed]

Most guys think they're good in bed, but in reality very few are. This is what I've realized talking to different women that love sex.

Women have learned to compliment men's sex abilities because nothing correlates more than the size of his ego and the size of his erection, unfortunately that means many guys dont have the motivation to improve.

I blame our culture for making it taboo for most people to fulfill their true sexual desires and try stuff that many consider "creepy" "disgusting" "weird" "abusive" etc etc.

[Timoteo]

(11-22-2011 10:11 PM)joehoya Wrote:  

Forums like that a a great reminder of why I will NEVER get married.

If you want to check out a similar forum, go to ivillage and look in their relationship problems section:
Ivillage forums

That forum has no less than FIVE separate sub-forums devoted to affairs.

My favorite story is about some chick who cheated on her husband with some guy from work.

This ho starts banging this dude behind her husbands back, all the while, the dude is showering her with praise about how they are perfect together and he wants to be with her forever, yada yada yada. So the dumb bitch divorce her husband for this dude.

When she tells the dude that she is ready to be in a committed relationship with her, the dude tells her that he can't get over the fact that she CHEATED ON HER EX HUSBAND. His logic (which was perfect, btw) was that if she could do that skanky shit to her first husband then she could do it to him too. He then tells her that he has found a girl with better morals that he wants to be with instead.

NICE. She destroyed her husband's life, so she should have her's destroyed the same way. Chicks like her are always paranoid when they get a man to leave another woman, because he cheated with them behind the wife's back, so it's beautiful to see a chick have the tables turned on her like this.

[Docter]

Wow and I was trying to be productive tonight.

Thanks idiots.

[Iceinthewater]

I don't understand what's crazy about what these women are saying other than they don't understand that men get bored from fucking the same girl and that's why their husbands aren't passionate.

As far as the women being frustrated and their thought processes, it seems pretty understandable to me.

[Docter]

^It's highly entertaining though

[haywire]

I read the following on the ivillage forum. Just can't convince myself this could be true. What do you guys think?

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About 4 months ago I discovered some text messages on my wife's phone. She said that it was nothing more than that and that she was feeling lonely (we had been splitting time between 2 states, she would spend 2 weeks with our daughter in one state and then visit me for 2 weeks with our daughter). Over the next 2 months she kept saying that she was disconnected and that something was missing.

2 months ago while on a short vacation my wife told me that she was pregnant. She initially said nothing else, but when I asked, she admitted that she had slept with the text messaging guy and did not know if the baby was mine or his. Subsequently she has found out that the baby is not mine. She is currently 5 months pregnant.

I have recently relocated to the same city as her, but did not move home. She has been unable to stop the affair to this point and continues to "date" this guy whenever I have our daughter. Finally, I pursued divorce as she could not committ to stopping the affair. We are currently in the process, but nothing is finalized.

Over the past month I have tried to put aside my anger at her and to listen to the things that she said were wrong. We have had several discussions that point towards reconciliation, but she will not take that step. She has told me that she still wants to get to know this guy better (she only knew him for a couple of months before the affair started). Currently, she is taking 2 weeks to think about things and decide what she wants.

I am stuck in that I do really want to reconcile with her. I do feel that I can forgive her, move past my anger, address my part of our relationship that was lacking for her, and do whatever it takes. I can accept this child into our family and even the other guys part in raising the child. She cannot seem to make a choice and I don't know what to do. Everyday is hard and I feel that she is sacrificing our marriage and our child for the other person and the baby.

Any advice?

He later follows it up with:

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Thanks ladydia. I have found some peace, but a day doesn't go by that I don't miss my wife. I also struggle to understand why. She has apologized for what she has done and that I got hurt, but has never attempted to make amends and is not remorseful at all. With God's grace, I will be able to move forward and find a woman that is whole and can truly be a life partner.

I applaud your efforts to make amends and I hope your significant other will truly forgive you so that you all can have a happy life.

[TheAntiWhiteKnight138]

^ WTF....................I'm near speechless

Any guy that would want this bitch back after getting her twat filled w/ another guys specimen AND becoming prego is a true deep seeded beta male

[TheAntiWhiteKnight138]

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I have been married for 8 years, together for 10. I have two young girls with my husband. I have been having an affair with a coworker (we will call him B) for the last few months. I was always attracted to B, and my attraction was intense starting back in November when he started talking to me more at work. He would walk by my office and my heart would pound widely. In March I went out with my girlfrieds for my birthday and he was out too and I ended up making out with him. Since then I have had sex with him multiple times.

B just got out of his relationship with his fiance because she was cheating on him and he split up with her in December which is before we ever started the affair. He has made it very clear to me that he does not want a relationship, wants to see other people, and needs to figure out his life from his fiance. Even though he has told me all this several times, I thought I could handle just a sexual affair...but of course, being a woman my emotions get involved and I like him alot. I ask him to just tell me its over, but he never does say yes its over but just says what I stated above which makes it hard for me. He never pursues me and I am always the enabler. I thought he was starting to have feelings for me, which maybe he was, but he says after we have sex he has a morale hangover and can't be the one to destroy a marriage cause he knows how it feels.

Obviously while all this is happening, my relationship with my husband has been falling apart. I haven't been attracted to him for years (maybe 5?) and whenever we have sex I've always had to think about other people or fantasies. I guess I've accepted it and just figured that marriage sex is suppose to be that way. I have been very distant to H, not wanting to talk to him or have him touch me at all. I stopped telling him I love him unless he says it first. For the most part he wants me to approach him for the affection which I'm not doing. He has tried talking to me and wants to know what is going on with me, but I clam up cause I don't want to tell him about the affair. I finally told him I wasn't attracted to him like I use to be, but that is about it.

Because I had the affair I am starting to wonder if it would have happened at all if I was truly in love with my husband. I see my friends who are so in love and know they would never do such a thing. I don't miss my husband when he is away on work trips and look forward to it, yet when I don't see B for over a week i miss him. Now that my affair is possibly over, I am having doubts what I really want. Do I want destroy my marriage or have a marraige that isn't possibly what I truly want.

I have my first counceling session by myself on monday. I've never been to counceling for anything and I'm scared. I have an extremely hard time talking about my emotions especially with someone I don't know.

Just read this on ivillage. Classic "my emotions told me to do it so it's ok right????" shit attitude

[MMM]

When a woman cheats, it's her husband's fault for not fulfilling some ill defined spiritual need or want. Society applauds. When a man cheats, he's a dog.

[XXL]

(11-23-2011 05:04 AM)MMM Wrote:  

When a woman cheats, it's her husband's fault for not fulfilling some ill defined spiritual need or want. Society applauds. When a man cheats, he's a dog.

that's one on the biggest bullshit i've heard my whole life.

it's simpel.. a woman has integrity and character or she does not

bad sex, lack of chemistry etc is all circumstantial and totally irrelevant. all that matters is that some people are honest and some are dishonest. some are fair and some are unfair. some are cheaters and some are not cheaters.

cheaters are cheaters no matter if they date a cool person or some lame ass, if the sex is good or bad. they just don't care so they fuck around. their cheating has nothing to do with that other person and everything to do with their own personal lack of integrity and character. therefore the big lesson about is that cheating has more to do with the person cheating than it has to do with the victim.

and some people just don't do it. it's a matter of their personal values, their sense of morality, character, integrity. that's the real eason.

therefore, the best way is to give other person a lot of space and see how she/he will use that space. give the person long enough rope and see if he hangs himself. this is the only way to determine how this person really is. but 99% people will not do that cause they paranoid that the truth will come out so they prefer to live in fear while controling other person tight enough to eliminate any opportunities. it's crazy. fucking fools.

[MMM]

(11-23-2011 07:35 AM)XXL Wrote:  

(11-23-2011 05:04 AM)MMM Wrote:  

When a woman cheats, it's her husband's fault for not fulfilling some ill defined spiritual need or want. Society applauds. When a man cheats, he's a dog.

that's one on the biggest bullshit i've heard my whole life.

it's simpel.. a woman has integrity and character or she does not

bad sex, lack of chemistry etc is all circumstantial and totally irrelevant. all that matters is that some people are honest and some are dishonest. some are fair and some are unfair. some are cheaters and some are not cheaters.

cheaters are cheaters no matter if they date a cool person or some lame ass, if the sex is good or bad. they just don't care so they fuck around. their cheating has nothing to do with that other person and everything to do with their own personal lack of integrity and character. therefore the big lesson about is that cheating has more to do with the person cheating than it has to do with the victim.

and some people just don't do it. it's a matter of their personal values, their sense of morality, character, integrity. that's the real eason.

therefore, the best way is to give other person a lot of space and see how she/he will use that space. give the person long enough rope and see if he hangs himself. this is the only way to determine how this person really is. but 99% people will not do that cause they paranoid that the truth will come out so they prefer to live in fear while controling other person tight enough to eliminate any opportunities. it's crazy. fucking fools.

okay, u’re absolutely ucking right. yu know all, its simpel. i’m just crazy.

[tenderman100]

(11-23-2011 07:35 AM)XXL Wrote:  

it's simpel.. a woman has integrity and character or she does not

bad sex, lack of chemistry etc is all circumstantial and totally irrelevant. all that matters is that some people are honest and some are dishonest. some are fair and some are unfair. some are cheaters and some are not cheaters.

cheaters are cheaters no matter if they date a cool person or some lame ass, if the sex is good or bad. they just don't care so they fuck around. their cheating has nothing to do with that other person and everything to do with their own personal lack of integrity and character. therefore the big lesson about is that cheating has more to do with the person cheating than it has to do with the victim.

and some people just don't do it. it's a matter of their personal values, their sense of morality, character, integrity. that's the real eason.

therefore, the best way is to give other person a lot of space and see how she/he will use that space. give the person long enough rope and see if he hangs himself. this is the only way to determine how this person really is. but 99% people will not do that cause they paranoid that the truth will come out so they prefer to live in fear while controling other person tight enough to eliminate any opportunities. it's crazy. fucking fools.

This makes the assumption that monogamy is the "high character" standard.

Maybe it is, or maybe it isn't, but it isn't the way the human brain is wired.

Men are by nature polygamous: they are evolutionarily wired to want strange, especially young nubile strange with firm skin, firm tits, and a firm ass. These women are "ripe." The reason is obvious: spread your seed and your genes as wide as you can.

Women by nature are hypergamous. They want a guy who can provide for their kids, the guy with resources, because raising kids is a long term project. But at the same time they are compelled to find the hottest, most intriguing guy who creates the crazy 'gina tingle. The guy who gets them wet the minute they see him...the guy where just the THOUGHT of his cock gets their mouth watering. Often these two "types" are NOT the same person.

This is the reality. And what you see on this board are men who have accepted, indeed embraced, that polygamy IS what we are meant to do.

And on the women's boards, the iVillage and Secret Society, you see women putting on full display the hypergamy hampster that they simply cannot control, understand, and which drives them to distraction.

What is astonishing to me is that those on this board understand this fundamental evolutionary prerogative...and that these women are fucking clueless. They are trapped in the hurricane of their emotions.

The contrast is stark.

On another thread, when a variation on this theme came up, one poster lamented about this state of affairs. It is on one level worth lamenting about -- if you understand this, you have indeed stared into the abyss.

But once you get past that, this understanding is highly liberating. This is evolutionary reality. We cannot escape it. This evolutionary reality doesn't give a fuck about "morals" or "social norms." This is nature, and nature could give a rat's ass about what you or I think about it.