Quote: (10-07-2011 03:54 PM)Roosh Wrote:
I've come to the conclusion that you shouldn't ever help someone who is being disrespected.
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Interesting. I trust your experience. If I see a guy beating his gf, I will probably not do anything because of this thread..
I hope you mean that you were convinced by the points made throughout the thread rather than just changing your mind on Roosh's behalf. He seems like a smart, experienced guy, but you should still do your own thinking, IMHO.
Apologies ahead of time if I read too much into that statement - maybe I misunderstood.
Anyhow, I'm a bit torn on the matter. I've definitely learned there are situations you shouldn't get involved in. I once punched a guy in a parking lot for tossing his chick around and his mom came at me swatting me with her purse in the head. lol In retrospect, the bar I was at was the last place in the world I should have done something like that. In all honesty, I shouldn't have been in that dirty ass place in the first.
Not that the purse posed a threat but it was pretty volatile environment overall.
I realize now that in most situations it's better to stay out of it, but I think there is a line. I would imagine that most of you have a line as well.
Also, I think some of you might be being too black and white with the white night thing. In the dumb decision I mentioned above, for instance, I had no desire in hell to impress this guy's old lady - she was quite the hag. Ditto for all other tweakers at the place.
In fact, due to the danger I posed on myself by intervening in this particular situation, as I was a complete stranger and surrounded by tweakers who knew each other, impressing any of the other hags present was last thing on my mind as well. Any reward for being a "white knight" was far outweighed by the risks.
Some people just react because that's what they believe is the right thing to do - no more no less. Some people do still put themselves in bad situations they shouldn't based on principle alone.
Now, whether or not they're right that it's the correct thing to do in this particular cases is certainly debatable, but I'm not so sure labeling anyone who puts theirself in harm's way like that a white knight is doing the world any favors.
I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying, but I also think each situation is unique.
And for the record, I think it's also worth reminding everyone that not every woman out there who gets abused enjoys it or stays because she is used to it. I'm not saying you can do anything about it in one situation, as an outsider, but I am saying let's be a little more honest about how the world works.
There are some out there who are too afraid to leave because they honestly believe the bastard when he says he'll hunt her down or kill her or whatever. Others are just too emotionally and mentally weak to leave and stay until it's gone too far.
And then again, how do you know it isn't the first time he unloaded on her? How do you know he didn't just lose his fucking marbles and snap - is it worth it to ignore what's going on based on the premise that there is a part of her that likes abuse when you really have no clue what's going on?
Again, I'm not saying anyone should hop in and play captain save-a-hoe anytime a chick gets slapped. I'm not saying that at all.
But what I am saying is that situations like this are not as black and white as some of you are suggesting.
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