[Smoker]

Wow, some of the things people have written in this thread... just plain scary.

Funny how the culture is such that it is unacceptable to not have an opinion on something. No matter how little someone knows about something, I rarely if ever hear, "don't know anything about that so I can't have an opinion."

I think it was Mark Twain who said, "it's better to stay quiet and let people think you're an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Good advice for about half the posters in this thread. LOL

[Screwston]

(11-16-2011 04:05 PM)kbell Wrote:  

I just got a bottle of St. Johns Wart. Hope it helps. What is this weird feeling you get with it?

Man, someone mentioned that on here a while back but I never tried it out because of side effects.

[Deb Auchery]

Move to Ukraine, it's good for depression and lack of confidence.

[Chad Daring]

(11-17-2011 04:19 AM)houston Wrote:  

(11-16-2011 04:05 PM)kbell Wrote:  

I just got a bottle of St. Johns Wart. Hope it helps. What is this weird feeling you get with it?

Man, someone mentioned that on here a while back but I never tried it out because of side effects.

I tried it at one point, just after I found Roosh's site and Bang, but before I got my shit straight, I didn't notice much of a change.

One thing that did help me was melatonin. The improved sleep it gives me makes me feel better, overall, which effects my mood greatly.

[Pusscrook]

(11-16-2011 12:59 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

"and simply realized you have to just stop being a bitch at some point,"

Yeah, just be a REAL MAN and the fucked up chemicals will go away.

What is that saying, "For every problem there is a solution which is simple, common-sensical- and wrong. "

There is reciprocal determinism between your environment, your genetic neurochemical makeup, and your thoughts/actions.
My depression temporarily lifts even if I get blown out hardcore by a bitchy girl. If my depression lifts enough, I can game more
and that will help the depression. But that doesn't mean my genetic predisposition to depression isn't real. There is significant comorbidity with
ADD-- more people with ADD will have depression than others.

The idea that a certain type of thought or thinking will definitely change your neurochemical makeup is true only partially and indirectly.
If you game well enough, and start having hot chicks around all the time, that may very well start to actually change the structure of your neurons, there are new connections grown extending outward-- we are talking mechanical, physical change here--perhaps non-useful old ones die out...the idea of total separation of the physical and mental is obsolete.

Glad "not being a bitch" worked for you, but to generalize this to all is, frankly, the opinion of a totally uneducated amateur. Depression remits spontaneously most of the time, but not completely, and the relapse rate is about 80%. Certain symptoms, like cognitive slowing, are harder to
get rid of than more marked symptoms like despair.

Although there is benefit to acting to improve your situation, as Chad said; as Pusscrook stated, if you are in a position to see the factual reality under a microscope; or simply have seen hundreds of patients like I have, you understand that just because someone can't see the chemical imbalances associated with depression, doesn't mean they're not there.

To help you see the error of your limited thinking, how about schizophrenia? Is to "stop being a fool" all they have to do to solve their problems? I mean, there's nothing physically wrong with them, right?

In the middle ages, they thought the mentally ill were possessed by demons. Nowadays, they uneducated think they are possessed with "being a bitch".

Mood disorders are real, as in physically. I do think lack of pussy (and all the social approval and affection that goes with it) makes mine worse, that's why I'm here.

Since I don't work in a prison any more, I've been able to switch from pharma anti-depressants to St. John's Wort, used since the time of ancient Greece. About $0.25 per day instead of $5.00 per day with pharma, which was stronger but also felt weirder.

^^^^^^^^^^ Great post.

[5K2D]

Depression can have multiple causes.

Physiological factors, such as lack of proper nutrients or improper thyroid functioning, can cause depression. I personally sought help for depression, only to find out through differential diagnosis bloodwork that I had advanced Lyme disease, which also can cause depression.

Brain-based physiological congenital factors can cause depression as well. A friend of mine has Bipolar Type I, which causes not only periods of intense depression (sleeping for 22-24 hours at a time) but also "raving lunatic in the streets" mania if he doesn't take his medication (he was diagnosed after such a period of mania). Some cases of major depressive disorder are similarly congenital. However, we really don't know what exactly these congenital factors are; "chemical imbalance" is a crude approximation.

Some cases of depression are simply people with shitty lives.

It varies.

[Craige]

Great tips to reduce depression, some more tips to beat depression effectively.
Do take deep breath in fresh air,
Do start some light exercise,
Eat a well balanced diet,
Share your problems with your pals,
Drink 2/3 glass of water,
Avoid caffeine and other stimulants,
If you do not eat well take multivitamin regularly,
Avoid or limit alcohol consumption.

[Iceinthewater]

One thing I never hear people talk about with depression that was a HUGE breakthrough for me is how you shoot your dopamine up on a regular basis. Jerking off, and just looking at porn gives you little hits of dopa in your brain. So does drinking and pretty much every drug. Comfort food can do it too, and even teasing people and getting that quick ego boost can get you addicted to that shot of dopa in your brain.

The thing is, when you are constantly getting dopa hits, you through your chemistry out of wack, and begin to need that hit. After the hit, your dopa drops hard, and you need to raise it again, with food, sex, video games, whatever.

Cutting the shit you use to feel comfortable and get instant happy feelings will make your brain chemistry go back to normal and even out.

The only way I get dopamine hits now is from sex and exercise, and socializing. Cutting waaaaaay back on looking at girls on the internets and alcohol has stabilized my mood way better than anything I've ever done. I've always been a bit on the moody side so the change has been real significant for me personally.