[el mechanico]

Boats do it in Florida.
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Or a limo. They love both

[scorpio]

You know what...

Higher education/high-status jobs are alpha killers. On college campuses, I saw nothing but pussies... those with and without a dick. Male and female feminists both alike. Entering a high-status profession is being a slave to the system, in a soul-killing kind of way, you know? Just putting in the long hours to study and work for that bank leaves you with little energy left to hunt for pussy. It's why these guys settle. Because they're tired.

At the start of my clubbing/nightlife game, I vibed with these two working class Latinos. A black dude joined along for the ride sometimes. Another white guy occasionally joined us, but he was totally omega and generally useless. That was the crew. We had fun. I wouldn't have traded those guys to hang out with the yuppie stiffs in the Marina.

I struggle with this shit even now. There are some weekends I can't go out b/c I'm too tired. Like I'm splitting personalities between night-and-day. But that's what I do to survive.

[Giovonny]

Nerds don't get much p*ssy. (Unless they have Game, which is rare)

The Facebook guy Zuckerberg dates a plain looking 5. The owner of the San Francisco 49ers dates a 5 that I went to high school with. Mark cuban has a 5 wife also. My friends and I always joke that we get better girls then those billionaire dorks with no Game.

Guys with game get p*ssy. If they have status they get 10x more.

At one point in my life I was poor but I had status, I got laid like crazy.

Money alone doesn't bring p*ssy. It will attract some girls to you, but you gotta have Game to bang them and keep them around. College degrees alone don't get you laid, they might get you a chance but you gotta have Game to seal the deal.

Status and power without Game is a like a nice kitchen without a good cook.

I bet Roosh has a better sex life then Steve Jobs had..

[mikeymike]

(11-15-2011 03:20 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 03:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I see. Makes sense. But then we fall back to the point: does a mere credential of lawyer/doctor get you more ass by itself?

Is it better to be loved than feared? Whatever your answer, wouldn't you prefer to be both?

Would you rather have money or game? If I had to choose, I'd chose game over money.

But if I could have both, I'd take both.

Guys too often treat these things like false choices. I can either get credentials or I can learn game.

The man who does both is going to beat the man who only has one.

I have the credentials, my point in this thread was that some guys fall back on their credentials like that in itself guarantees something, someone well rounded will win out, unless a guy is wealthy doesn't have to work wealthy he can't get away with being completely gameless. It's not an either or situation but as someone who has what I thought was the package, education, money, credentials I was getting far less then friends who were just great with women, gaming was and is an ongoing learning thing for me but since I've learned how to handle my shit I'm clearing more than they are. All things being equal, the guy with the credentials/money/status etc wins so I'm not going to say forget all those things just focus on gaming that's ridiculous. Many things can get you in the door quicker, but if you don't know how to close some good it does you. I encourage all to make bank, get educated and learn to game, do it all.

[Docter]

Game has the lowest barrier of entry compared to other things that women find attractive. If you were looking to get laid, would you choose to learn some basic Game and start approaching, or go through 8-12 years of medical school to become a doctor?

Game is arguably the easiest and quickest way to get laid albeit the least known and accepted. Poor heroin addicted johnny could be some alpha jackass and get laid while Steve Jobs marries a 6 for life.

Also, the things we are talking about aren't binary -- it's not "money doesn't get you laid" or "money does" it's to what the degree the person with money leverages it in his pursuit of pussy, and how he plays this one aspect with the other known attractive aspects at his disposal.

[Excelsior]

(11-15-2011 04:13 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Because I use to drive a late-model Ferrari, and a 90K Porsche and be just like them. I get more ass now in my 8,000 Porsche.

..that's how I know.


Mixx

If you say so.

I'd still rather drive a Ferrari, if only because I like them, girl or no girl.

[Giovonny]

If you can't get girls, how smart are you???

[MiXX]

(11-15-2011 05:54 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

I'd still rather drive a Ferrari, if only because I like them, girl or no girl.

But that's another story. Ferraris are over-rated man...cops are just itchin to pull you over always, just to show you their dick size! I'd much rather have a cool motorcycle or a boast as mechanico points out. Boats and motorcycles get ass - period.

Girls co crazier for guys on bikes than Ferraris. I also have a motorcycle, and it is very rare I do not get "Can I hop on?" looks from girls. I never got that in a Ferrari. Even when I enter a place with just my helmet in hand, girls open me with "what kind of bike you ride?". I never got that when I use to showcase my Ferrari key. * 90% of girls do not even know what these exotic car keys look like.

...but maybe that's just Miami...everyone here has a ferrari that it is no longer a novelty or something that makes you stand out.

I'm sure its a different story having a Ferrari in a place like Houston, TX.

Mixx

[ersatz]

When I Posted this I was thinking what happened in Russia where sane, sober and employed men are in short supply and 22yo will cry over a 40yo engineer. Mr. Fastfood at 30 vs mr. Middle class at 30. Not mr.1% ferrari vs mr.normal. My generation is heavily unemployed and has bad prospects.

[MikeCF]

(11-15-2011 06:44 PM)ersatz Wrote:  

When I Posted this I was thinking what happened in Russia where sane, sober and employed men are in short supply and 22yo will cry over a 40yo engineer. Mr. Fastfood at 30 vs mr. Middle class at 30. Not mr.1% ferrari vs mr.normal. My generation is heavily unemployed and has bad prospects.

It's a good insight but the analogy doesn't quite work because in the U.S., unlike Russia, women can market their credentials for careers.

I've met many hot Russian PhDs with no job prospects. They need men to help them.

Now, the analogy may work perfectly once America can no longer support the make-work economy that keeps women employed.

In the meantime, "strong independent women" will choose a guy with game over a guy with a credential.

Though, again, a man should have credentials, money, a good body and game. Not just for women, but because life is remarkably better when you're in good health, have pocket money, and can pull ass.

[Chad Daring]

(11-15-2011 11:35 AM)WesternCancer Wrote:  

yeah, but if your education leads to a high status job like a lawyer/doctor you'll be knee deep in pussy.

A buddy of mine is a high school drop out that got his GED at the age of 29, he makes almost twice as much money as I do and I went to college. This myth that college = good job/life needs to die.

Most of the guys I knew in highschool that were naturally good with women were the D students who simply didn't give a fuck. I see no correlation between education and the ability to score

[Excelsior]

(11-15-2011 06:15 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 05:54 PM)Athlone McGinnis Wrote:  

I'd still rather drive a Ferrari, if only because I like them, girl or no girl.

But that's another story. Ferraris are over-rated man...cops are just itchin to pull you over always, just to show you their dick size! I'd much rather have a cool motorcycle or a boast as mechanico points out. Boats and motorcycles get ass - period.

Girls co crazier for guys on bikes than Ferraris. I also have a motorcycle, and it is very rare I do not get "Can I hop on?" looks from girls. I never got that in a Ferrari. Even when I enter a place with just my helmet in hand, girls open me with "what kind of bike you ride?". I never got that when I use to showcase my Ferrari key. * 90% of girls do not even know what these exotic car keys look like.

This is definitely true. I'm really starting to think that motorcycle game is highly underrated. Becoming a rider is another one of my future goals (though I still want the exotic car at some point-can't help it, I'm just a car guy).

Could it be that, when it comes to general sex appeal, a two-wheeled BMW beats a four wheeled one?





I may soon test this theory...

[MiXX]

I got a good for you Athlone, when you get your 2-wheel BMW, go park next to a guy in a Ferrari/Bentley/Audi/Benz, and then see who girls eye-fuck more....don't get me wrong, I love cars too, but I already passed that "I want a Ferrari stage" of my life, which tells me you are a lot younger than I am.

Mixx

[MikeCF]

Motorcycle game is unstoppable.

I looked into stats on it, though, and read a lot of boards. Sentiment, even among guys who love it: "It's not IF you crash, it's WHEN."

I enjoy the gym and other active, outdoor style things to risk an injury.

[raliv]

(11-15-2011 08:42 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Motorcycle game is unstoppable.

I looked into stats on it, though, and read a lot of boards. Sentiment, even among guys who love it: "It's not IF you crash, it's WHEN."

It's when you crash.

Don't get me wrong, I loved riding my bright yellow Ducati Monster right up until the day I went down. After that, I decided that I loved being alive and getting pussy more.

Girls love guys who ride motorcycles. It's the attitude that biker has. Expendability. Recklessness. Danger. Short term vision. All good bad boy traits that bring out her inner slut.

[Excelsior]

(11-15-2011 08:39 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

I got a good for you Athlone, when you get your 2-wheel BMW, go park next to a guy in a Ferrari/Bentley/Audi/Benz, and then see who girls eye-fuck more....don't get me wrong, I love cars too, but I already passed that "I want a Ferrari stage" of my life, which tells me you are a lot younger than I am.

Mixx

If the age you gave here is correct, then you're right.

(11-15-2011 08:42 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Motorcycle game is unstoppable.

I looked into stats on it, though, and read a lot of boards. Sentiment, even among guys who love it: "It's not IF you crash, it's WHEN."

I enjoy the gym and other active, outdoor style things to risk an injury.

I probably could stand to take more risks in my life anyway. The only risk that would be intolerable for me would be permanent paralysis, and given the sheer number of men who ride and never have that problem, I think I'll take my chances. A busted bone or two doesn't scare me.

[Timoteo]

A friend of mine in Vegas and her boyfriend ride. About a month ago, he had his 4th accident, and he almost didn't survive this one. I don't have the exact details, because I don't want to press her on it, but I heard from others that he hit a wall. He was in a coma briefly, and has had I think 4 surgeries on his spine in a couple different places. He's in a halo brace. He isn't completely paralyzed (she just posted on Facebook that he motion her over to him, and when she got close enough he reached up a grabbed one of her titties and started laughing), but needless to say, he's fucked up for good. You don't ever get back to 100% from those types of injuries. Bikes are definitely cool, but in the event of an accident you have NO protection.

[mikeymike]

That is the shitty thing about riding, it doesn't matter how good a rider you are, all it takes is for someone else to be careless and you're likely the one not coming back from it. The logic applies in a car as well but a little bump on a bike can be serious, a little bump in a car means annoying insurance hassles. I've wanted a bike for years but Vancouver weathers 75% rain coupled with some of the worst drivers anywhere it's like asking to die.

[el mechanico]

Guys I've been riding all my life and don't have one scratch on me. I've been in plenty of wrecks but got used to how to ditch the bike from back in my motocross days as a kid. If you start riding later I advise you take all the most advanced safety classes you can and dress right...Kevlar gloves etc.

[El Rey]

Good discussion in this thread. A few thoughts

*Sports cars, cars
As Mixx said, getting a specific type of car (sports cars, extreme high end, trucks w/ huge wheels, escalade, etc.) won't attract girls. Truth be told, it will mainly get you attention from other dudes. You'll have dudes drooling and peeping out your ride and you'll have car enthusiasts want to come up and talk shop and give you props. Pussy won't come over and talk to you b/c of the whip.

*Doctors (becoming a doctor to get pussy)
I don't think anyone sets out to become a doctor in the name of getting females. Why would anyone put in that much work and time just for pussy? Hell, most dudes who go into medicine kiss their 20's goodbye because of the huge commitment. Medical school, always always always studying, boards, residency, long ass shifts when starting out, research, fellowship, keeping up to date on new techniques, etc.

Most guys who go into medicine are not motivated by pussy. Remember the dudes you knew back in school who went on to med school. They are motivated by: 1) Scientific curiosity/always wanted to go into medicine 2) Altruism: truly saving lives and helping people and adding value to society 3) Scientific research aspect (nerdier dudes) 4) $$$: Not necessarily $ to attract pussy, but $ to get material things and a certain lifestyle (the sports car, big house in gated community, the summer home, country club membership, all that yuppie shit)

Also, a lot of guys who become doctors buy into what society expects of them. So they get married and live a certain lifestyle b/c they are conforming to society's 'expectations' of them. But with that said, a lot of older doctors (40+) have mistresses on the side, bang escorts, or bang nurses and secretaries.

*Tech CEO nerds
I also think that these genius 'tech CEO nerds' like Jobs, Gates, and Zuckerberg aren't motivated by snatch and have never been. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if they have lower testosterone counts than the average male. These guys are genius on a wavelength that most people can't comprehend. Their mind is always racing a million MPH and they are thinking about coding, new ideas, and all types of advanced tech/computer shit. If you were having a regular conversation with them, halfway through they would start spouting off about cloud computing, coding, a new interface, and other tech-geek speak. They are motivated by imprinting a great idea on the world and building/increasing their digital empire. They find a fellow high IQ, academic geek chick and marry her (Jobs, Gates, and the Oracle guy are examples of this). I'd be pretty sure these dudes still have mistresses and escorts on the side.

[endobendo]

(11-15-2011 10:45 PM)El Rey Wrote:  

Good discussion in this thread. A few thoughts

*Sports cars, cars
As Mixx said, getting a specific type of car (sports cars, extreme high end, trucks w/ huge wheels, escalade, etc.) won't attract girls. Truth be told, it will mainly get you attention from other dudes. You'll have dudes drooling and peeping out your ride and you'll have car enthusiasts want to come up and talk shop and give you props. Pussy won't come over and talk to you b/c of the whip.

even if its mainly dudes checking out your ferrari dont you think thatd increase your social value and girls would see that? i mean its not the magic ticket to pussy but if you have any minimum level of game its gotta be a big help.

or you can casually mention how you collect exotic cars in conversation with a girl. "yeah ill give you a ride sometime" huge DHV i think. there are ways to drop hint of it in coversation without coming across as a douche

all theoretical never even been in one of those cars

[blurb]

Having a motorcycle is like peacocking.

Everybody has a car.

How many men own and ride motorcycles? Answer: Very few.

Same thing with boats and limosines. Very few men actually own them.

[Gmac]

You guys need to listen more to Mixx, elmech, MikeCF, because they actually know what the fuck they're talking about.

Status, swag, money, interesting experiences/stories, career, physique, uniqueness... this is all part of living a lifestyle. The more successful you are at life in all of these areas and others, the better you will be with women. It really is that simple. Work on improving yourself, and the women will follow. Just don't get so caught up in the rat race that life passes you by.

[rudebwoy]

(11-15-2011 01:42 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(11-15-2011 12:08 PM)Moma Wrote:  

Doesn't having money in America get one knee deep in pussy?

Tell that to the dozens of guys I see driving around in Lambos, Ferraris, Bentleys, Audi R8 along south beach...ALL ALOOOOONE!

Then, flip the coin and tell guys like me who has an $8,000USD car, and 75% of the time, have a girl on my passenger side. Same goes for guys in cheapo Hondas Civics. I always see those cats with a little slut riding shotgun, more than the guys in Ferraris!


Mixx

This is so true, so many guys with the flash cars NEVER have a hot chick in the passenger seat.

Chicks love Harleys though, bikes in general. Although I am wondering if it is more the "bad boy" image they like more.

[Hooligan Harry]

Anyone who thinks a flash car provides no benefit has never owned one. If you drive a Ferrari, you are making serious money. Its a display of financial status to strangers that is difficult to top.

Instead of asking yourself how many hot women you see in the passenger seat, ask yourself how many ugly women you have seen driving them.

Women dont give a fuck about the car. The car about the wallet that bought it.