Penn State sex abuse scandal?
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There's a lot of soap-box type shit being spit since this scandal broke. People with the benefit of hindsight, on the outside looking in talking about what THEY would have done. Bullshit. Bottom line, this Sandusky motherfucker was part of the Penn State family. He was a friend and former colleague. No one wanted to be the one to turn him in to the cops, so each person told the person above them, with the hope being that THAT guy would do something about it. People will often defend/protect friends even if they know they're wrong. They'll keep their secrets. It's like a certain code against snitching. They know what they did is fucked up, but don't want to be the one to finger them.
When they told Sandusky he couldn't bring kids on campus anymore, they were splitting the difference - if you're doing that shit with kids, you can't do it HERE (in case you get caught, Penn State doesn't want to be held liable for allowing it on our premises). They were hoping he got caught, but somewhere else, by someone that isn't a friend or former colleague so their consciences would be clear. The right thing would have gotten done, without US having to do it.
Michael Jackson had more than his share of defenders. We all know his life story, and he had folks that felt sorry for him, despite what he was probably doing to young boys. Others felt he was being set up somehow by the parents to get paid. Whatever. But you ask his defenders if they'd be cool with THEY'RE kid spending the night at Neverland Ranch, and the resounding answer is HELL NO. I'll defend him fucking with someone else's kid, but I wouldn't risk my own. The simple answer is you either believe he did the shit or not, and if you don't, why don't you think your own kid would be safe there? People have an odd way of compartmentalizing and rationalizing shit.
We read all the time about some chick's boyfriend/husband molesting/abusing her kid. It's COMMON for these chicks, when told that their man is molesting their kid, to take the DUDE'S side over their own child. So it's not out of the realm of believability that these men at Penn State would think more about protecting themselves and the university than those kids Sandusky molested. But now that it's out, everybody that knew and didn't do shit needs to go down, and some of them need to do time - and learn what it feel like to be molested.
When they told Sandusky he couldn't bring kids on campus anymore, they were splitting the difference - if you're doing that shit with kids, you can't do it HERE (in case you get caught, Penn State doesn't want to be held liable for allowing it on our premises). They were hoping he got caught, but somewhere else, by someone that isn't a friend or former colleague so their consciences would be clear. The right thing would have gotten done, without US having to do it.
Michael Jackson had more than his share of defenders. We all know his life story, and he had folks that felt sorry for him, despite what he was probably doing to young boys. Others felt he was being set up somehow by the parents to get paid. Whatever. But you ask his defenders if they'd be cool with THEY'RE kid spending the night at Neverland Ranch, and the resounding answer is HELL NO. I'll defend him fucking with someone else's kid, but I wouldn't risk my own. The simple answer is you either believe he did the shit or not, and if you don't, why don't you think your own kid would be safe there? People have an odd way of compartmentalizing and rationalizing shit.
We read all the time about some chick's boyfriend/husband molesting/abusing her kid. It's COMMON for these chicks, when told that their man is molesting their kid, to take the DUDE'S side over their own child. So it's not out of the realm of believability that these men at Penn State would think more about protecting themselves and the university than those kids Sandusky molested. But now that it's out, everybody that knew and didn't do shit needs to go down, and some of them need to do time - and learn what it feel like to be molested.
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
What was all the Occupy Penn State burning cars, etc about?
Quote: (11-10-2011 07:39 PM)JayMillz Wrote:
What was all the Occupy Penn State burning cars, etc about?
It was students expressing their outrage that Coach Joe Paterno, who coached there for 46 years, was fired via phonecall by the Board of Trustees last night. Nevermind that in 2002 he was told about one of his former coaches was seen molesting a 10 year old boy in the showers at the football facility on campus, but what are details when you have the opportunity to act crazy and flip vehicles?
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
It's pretty easy to see why the coverup happened. I'd go so far as to say Paterno's move was rational, and tactically speaking, possibly the right course:
You have Sandusky, a top coach who may be guilty of something really skeezy. Supposedly, that's all Paterno really knew. If it blows up later, he could be charged with a criminal cover up, so he does the minimum needed to avoid charges, by telling some other guy "something" happened, but who knows what.
Say Paterno had investigated further, and finds out what really happened. His choice is either tell the media or to continue to conceal it. If he tells the media, it will be a total scandal, with huge bad press for Penn State. If he conceals it, now he could really get criminal charges if it ever goes public. Passing the buck, like he did, once he already knows what happened, won't work either - either someone else informs law enforcement/media/etc, or they conceal it, which only means more people can be charged if the truth comes to light.
The crux of it is the odds of the coverup ever coming to light. If the odds are low, Paterno's behavior was optimal for maintaining Penn State's reputation - why disclose what happened if they'll never find out in the first place?
There's tons of shit that happens that we never find out about, precisely for that reason. Often, this is exactly what happens - someone is fired for reasons unclear to onlookers, and often these reasons never become public.
Covering it up, directly or indirectly, is evil. But tactically, it made sense.
That riot reflects worse on Penn State than the pedophilia and coverup itself.
Maybe it's because I've never followed it, but being obsessed with pro sports always seemed sorta questionable to me. Treating living men like gods, watching yet never playing yourself, seeing some random assortment of men aka players as an extension of yourself ("we're going to the championship this year")... it all runs counter to being your own man. Celebrity gossip for men.
You have Sandusky, a top coach who may be guilty of something really skeezy. Supposedly, that's all Paterno really knew. If it blows up later, he could be charged with a criminal cover up, so he does the minimum needed to avoid charges, by telling some other guy "something" happened, but who knows what.
Say Paterno had investigated further, and finds out what really happened. His choice is either tell the media or to continue to conceal it. If he tells the media, it will be a total scandal, with huge bad press for Penn State. If he conceals it, now he could really get criminal charges if it ever goes public. Passing the buck, like he did, once he already knows what happened, won't work either - either someone else informs law enforcement/media/etc, or they conceal it, which only means more people can be charged if the truth comes to light.
The crux of it is the odds of the coverup ever coming to light. If the odds are low, Paterno's behavior was optimal for maintaining Penn State's reputation - why disclose what happened if they'll never find out in the first place?
There's tons of shit that happens that we never find out about, precisely for that reason. Often, this is exactly what happens - someone is fired for reasons unclear to onlookers, and often these reasons never become public.
Covering it up, directly or indirectly, is evil. But tactically, it made sense.
Quote: (11-10-2011 07:53 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
Quote: (11-10-2011 07:39 PM)JayMillz Wrote:
What was all the Occupy Penn State burning cars, etc about?
It was students expressing their outrage that Coach Joe Paterno, who coached there for 46 years, was fired via phonecall by the Board of Trustees last night. Nevermind that in 2002 he was told about one of his former coaches was seen molesting a 10 year old boy in the showers at the football facility on campus, but what are details when you have the opportunity to act crazy and flip vehicles?
That riot reflects worse on Penn State than the pedophilia and coverup itself.
Maybe it's because I've never followed it, but being obsessed with pro sports always seemed sorta questionable to me. Treating living men like gods, watching yet never playing yourself, seeing some random assortment of men aka players as an extension of yourself ("we're going to the championship this year")... it all runs counter to being your own man. Celebrity gossip for men.
Quote: (11-10-2011 08:38 PM)basilransom Wrote:
It's pretty easy to see why the coverup happened. I'd go so far as to say Paterno's move was rational, and tactically speaking, possibly the right course:
You have Sandusky, a top coach who may be guilty of something really skeezy. Supposedly, that's all Paterno really knew. If it blows up later, he could be charged with a criminal cover up, so he does the minimum needed to avoid charges, by telling some other guy "something" happened, but who knows what.
Say Paterno had investigated further, and finds out what really happened. His choice is either tell the media or to continue to conceal it. If he tells the media, it will be a total scandal, with huge bad press for Penn State. If he conceals it, now he could really get criminal charges if it ever goes public. Passing the buck, like he did, once he already knows what happened, won't work either - either someone else informs law enforcement/media/etc, or they conceal it, which only means more people can be charged if the truth comes to light.
The crux of it is the odds of the coverup ever coming to light. If the odds are low, Paterno's behavior was optimal for maintaining Penn State's reputation - why disclose what happened if they'll never find out in the first place?
There's tons of shit that happens that we never find out about, precisely for that reason. Often, this is exactly what happens - someone is fired for reasons unclear to onlookers, and often these reasons never become public.
Covering it up, directly or indirectly, is evil. But tactically, it made sense.
Quote: (11-10-2011 07:53 PM)Timoteo Wrote:
Quote: (11-10-2011 07:39 PM)JayMillz Wrote:
What was all the Occupy Penn State burning cars, etc about?
It was students expressing their outrage that Coach Joe Paterno, who coached there for 46 years, was fired via phonecall by the Board of Trustees last night. Nevermind that in 2002 he was told about one of his former coaches was seen molesting a 10 year old boy in the showers at the football facility on campus, but what are details when you have the opportunity to act crazy and flip vehicles?
That riot reflects worse on Penn State than the pedophilia and coverup itself.
Maybe it's because I've never followed it, but being obsessed with pro sports always seemed sorta questionable to me. Treating living men like gods, watching yet never playing yourself, seeing some random assortment of men aka players as an extension of yourself ("we're going to the championship this year")... it all runs counter to being your own man. Celebrity gossip for men.
You're 100% right. I'm a big sports fan...always have been. But I'm a fan of the games, and of course my favorite teams - not individual athletes. I've never been for the deification of some of these guys. It's unhealthy. Most are just guys that happen to be gifted at playing a certain game, but aren't exceptional human beings. Just guys. Some prove to be more than that, but most are just guys making a living. I see them as entertainers and nothing more. If my team loses, it may be disappointing at the moment, but then it's gone.
What's crazy is that more rioting over sports occurs when something GOOD happens (namely winning a championship). The city that loses the title doesn't do shit, but the winners burn police cars! In the case of Joe Paterno, I understand the affection for him. He's an icon...the face and symbol of that university. He's been the coach for 46 years. He was an assistant for many years before that. He's lived walking distance from the stadium, and often walked to work. He's a fixture in the community, and worked tirelessly for the school. I, like you, fully understand why he and everyone involved did, or didn't do, what they did with the information about the molestations. The crazy thing is this is an 84 year old man that by all accounts has lived an exemplary life, but this is the thing many will remember about him. The crazy thing is the assistant coach that saw the molestation with his own eyes and came to Paterno (he was a grad assistant at the time in 2002) wasn't fired. He was 28 years old at the time, a grown man. For some reason he isn't being held as culpable as others. As of tonight, reports are saying that Paterno has consulted with a criminal attorney. At minimum, civil suits are coming.
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
Quote: (11-10-2011 06:35 PM)JayMillz Wrote:
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/play?id=7211213
It's a meissing for JoePa! I guess that when in a country access to quality women becomes dificult society gets homosexualized and pedophiled.
With God's help, I'll conquer this terrible affliction.
By way of deception, thou shalt game women.
Diaboli virtus in lumbar est -The Devil's virtue is in his loins.
Throw them in general population and let them die there.
Did y'all hear ashton kutcher was defending one of these pieces of shit?
Quote: (11-11-2011 12:42 AM)houston Wrote:
Did y'all hear ashton kutcher was defending one of these pieces of shit?
Kutcher also admitted that he tweeted without knowing all of the facts. He was critical of Penn State for firing Paterno, but when someone filled him in, he apologized. He actually has a foundation to prevent child sexual trafficking, so it's not as if he's not sensitive to abuse of children. He then turned over his twitter account to his PR reps, which is stupid. His millions of followers want to know what HE thinks, not his reps. He just needs to be more careful about tweeting about shit he's not informed about, so he doesn't have to apologize.
"The best kind of pride is that which compels a man to do his best when no one is watching."
Did you know he titled his autobiography "Touched"?
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sand...1582613575
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sand...1582613575
Quote: (11-13-2011 01:31 AM)5K2D Wrote:
Did you know he titled his autobiography "Touched"?
http://www.amazon.com/Touched-Jerry-Sand...1582613575
Newsflash! This is nothing new. The global elites have been doing this for years. They protect their own. Pedophilia,child sacrifice and satanism are their daily activities. There are Penn State stories all over the Anglosphere.
that one coach said he walked in on him tappin some kids ass in the shower?!...wow
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