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Rich guys always win.
#76

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-24-2011 04:48 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Anyway, i believe it depends a lot on the context or situation you in if you have lots of money. You can be worth 50 million dollars and walk to a club and pull no chicks, however a guy with looks and game that makes 15K per year can go to the same club and pull a hot chick.

That is the main problem with your thinking - you assume the playground is even. It is not.
Do you really think Silvio Berlusconi or Hugh Hefner go to your typical clubs to pick up your typical chicks?

Yes, they go to clubs. But in those clubs that guy with looks and game that makes 15K per year wouldn't be a threat to them. Because he won't even get there.

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If you have lots of money and you are not famous then you wont be pulling a lot if you dont have game, unless girls really sense that you have money when you approach them (that means that you will need to be driving a luxury car, well dressed and give her 3000 dollars for just getting her number) then they will know that you have money and you will have an easier time.

Seems like your idea of "having money" is something like making 100K a year.
This is not having money, it is living off wages.

To start with, how would the girls in the club know you have the money? Easy. The bartender, a bouncer or one of her friends points a finger in your direction and tells them, "see that dude in a green shirt? He owns this club."
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#77

Rich guys always win.

No, making 100k is not a lot of money


Quote: (10-25-2011 02:28 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2011 04:48 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Anyway, i believe it depends a lot on the context or situation you in if you have lots of money. You can be worth 50 million dollars and walk to a club and pull no chicks, however a guy with looks and game that makes 15K per year can go to the same club and pull a hot chick.

That is the main problem with your thinking - you assume the playground is even. It is not.
Do you really think Silvio Berlusconi or Hugh Hefner go to your typical clubs to pick up your typical chicks?

Yes, they go to clubs. But in those clubs that guy with looks and game that makes 15K per year wouldn't be a threat to them. Because he won't even get there.

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If you have lots of money and you are not famous then you wont be pulling a lot if you dont have game, unless girls really sense that you have money when you approach them (that means that you will need to be driving a luxury car, well dressed and give her 3000 dollars for just getting her number) then they will know that you have money and you will have an easier time.

Seems like your idea of "having money" is something like making 100K a year.
This is not having money, it is living off wages.

To start with, how would the girls in the club know you have the money? Easy. The bartender, a bouncer or one of her friends points a finger in your direction and tells them, "see that dude in a green shirt? He owns this club."

Where did i say that making 100k a year is a lot of money? And who said that every bar tender will be pointing you out everytime saying that you own the club? And who told you that every men that is valued at more than 50 millions dollars own clubs?
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#78

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-24-2011 03:01 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Nothing in life is sweeter than the look on a money grubbing goldiggers face when she's duped out of some free tail...Nothing!

So true.
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#79

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-24-2011 10:51 PM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2011 12:05 PM)pitt Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2011 11:51 AM)Caligula Wrote:  

I agree with you HH, but it's also important for us to break down exactly where and how money matters - and how to get the biggest advantage from it. Not everyone with money knows how to squeeze the most pussy out of it.

Yeah thats it. HH is not really breaking down his strategies. Staying in 5 star hotels alone wouldnt get you very far. I am wondering what are his strategies - is he driving luxury cars in buenos aires, is he wearing expensive suits everyday, is he handing out money to girls? Break down your strategies playboy.

There are no real strategies mate. Im a busy guy and I make women fit into my schedule everywhere. They accompany me somewhere or they meet me somewhere and I dont budge on it. I will not go out of my way for a piece of ass.

I dont act on game principles, I try to live them. Instead of not phoning for 2.7 days, I dont phone because I was actually too busy. I dont act desperate because I actually am fucking other women already. I dont have routines used to DHV or any of that PUA shit, I am high value. I dont feign confidence, I am confident.

I see a good looking woman and the opportunity is there Ill approach. I have to because I dont WANT to hit up bars and clubs 3-4 nights a week. I approach everywhere. On the street, in a mall, she could be the checkout girl. I dont give a fuck about the environment nor do I have any 10 point bullet point list that I work through. Half the time I fuck it up and it does not even bother me anymore.

Let me ask you something. Where do the hottest women tend to hang? At the dive bars and budget malls or the upmarket venues and upmarket malls? There is a reason why they spend time there and its not to land rich whales. Women like opulence and even if they are broke themselves they like to spend time in places and venues that make them feel classy. I already spend time in these places and its normal for me to be there.

But here is where its different and Ill give you a typical working example for me. I phone the bitch and I find out what area she is working in or lives in. Next time I am in her area we catch up. Im the one setting the schedule and she has to be flexible because I have one hour, two max per week for her tops maybe. So from day 1 she is meeting where I want to meet and she is doing it when I wanted to. If she did not agree to that I move on because her interest would be too low. I seriously fit her in between meetings and clients always take priority.

Ill meet the chick, see how things go and then move onto phase 2 which is getting her out. Either she meets me again at a venue I decide on (chances are Im already headed out there with friends) or I do the "beta" dinner date right after work. I plow her full of booze and then go for the bang.

The difference is that what led up to that point was anything but "beta". And the places I told her she had to meet me were already upmarket. And I had nothing invested in the interaction, I am already fucking and she is a bonus. And again, contrary to all the advice thrown around, I pay for the entire thing. Not to impress her, but because I invited her there, and its no big deal. When you throw out 200 bucks on lunch only to cut it short or be taking calls in the middle of it, she thinks this shit is as normal to you as wiping your ass.

Then she sees you climb into a sports car and you can bet your ass there are going to be SMS and phone calls within 24 hours tops. They think its their Cinderella moment OR they are used to it and they expect this which means I match her laundry list.

This is amplified when I am abroad. Be it for holiday or work. When I am working I need to eat at night dont I? I have no social circle for the weekends I am there so I need to pass the time dont I? If I am not a local but I am still eating in places she has only read about or walked past, I am already approaching the category of once in a lifetime for her.

Ill repeat it again. You dont need money to get laid and I am not saying that. But anyone with money, who never had any before, will attest to the fact that it makes a massive difference and life is a hell of a lot easier. I have accepted that now and I am OK with it. The other thing to note is that my behaviour is congruent. She assumes everything, I never brag or beat or my chest. It would be hard to fake what I am doing and women see that immediately. The response is noticeable and its very, VERY favourable.

On a side note, this forum has destroyed my productivity hahahaha. I need to cut back a bit. Its just so hard when pussy and travel are being discussed in so much detail.

Top notch post, very well put.

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#80

Rich guys always win.

This may be devastating to some, but there are some harsh realities in life you have to deal with. We have all been there and sometimes all it takes, is a bit of recognition on your part. I don't want the OP to get offended, nor anyone who may not be in a financial position to understand this :

If you don't have money , it is hard to understand a certain type of game that G, or HH, is talking about. You will never understand it until you have money to understand that kind of power. I don't mean money in the sense of you can pay your rent on time ,make a car payment or travel the world on a budget kind of money. See if this makes sense to you: " People who can least afford to pay rent, pay rent,but, people who can most afford to pay rent, build up equity.

Money begets power! This kind of money, makes decisions that are hard for the average joe to make, easier than taking candy from a baby. Nothing is understood as complicated, impossible, or beyond their means. Until you swim in a certain tax bracket pool, do the best that you can to swim in your pond. You will pull your fucking hair out trying to make sense out of some of the things you see men with money do.

You can't expect a man with a reputation for making money, to somehow, live within the financial borders of commoners, or even think along those lines. Those days have a long time come and gone. We would rather eat grass like a donkey than to do this.

If you wish compare your life to that of a man who has truly discovered that money is the best religion, the only things you will reap from such thoughts are, envy, anger, jealousy, and perhaps, suicide, if you let it get to you.

For instance, I think Neil Skywalker has done himself a disservice with serious delusions of grandeur, then, when he understood the reality of what money is, and what it can do, frustration sets in. He has the motivation, but implementing "motivation" as we have seen, is useless.

You go to Vegas as a guppy, stay in your fucking pond. Don't start thinking/acting like you're a whale. When a real whale comes in, with a hoard of whores, and an entourage that rivals that of MC hammer's ,you will understand the difference. You will be ashamed of your behavior, because you will see the full power of a whale. Your sinew will melt and you will soil yourself. He may ask the floor boss, to move you 5 meters away because you were too noisy when you won that one hand for 20 dollars! Now you're angry, but it's because you don't understand that power, and you were under the impression that you had "arrived".

You travel, yet you stay in low budget hotels, hostels, and complain about the air, lights , the roaches, sheets, yet you want respect? Don't complain about these things if that's where you are in life. The man in the 5 bedroom villa(although he travels by himself) complains about the type of champagne in his mimosa, because he has identified the champagne was cheap even though it was already mixed in the drink! The maid must run out and fetch a much more expensive bottle. She doesn't understand it, and neither will you. It's just champagne right? Wrong!

Don't expect people with serious money to somehow convince themselves that they should be in your company, nor should you come under the spell of thinking that the world should be moved by simple tasks that are performed by common people. Birds of a feather stick together, and I suspect that they don't want to encourage an ulcer trying to explain it every damn day.

This is all relative information. You may see someone walking in the street with no shoes on, and you would probably think, "Gawd, the poor bastard". The man with long money , hears you complaining about the lack of customer service in your 2 star hotel, or the fact that he had too many young pretty whores sitting at a table, and he thinks, "Gawd, the poor bastard".

Can you get laid from a fine piece of ass and not have long money? Sure you can! Can you move mountains and dig up gems that most of the world has been trying to find, and do it over and over , again, and again, and again? Nope! You don't have the means to sustain that kind of pace. You wouldn't be able to make your money "work" for you in various ways. Help me to money , and I will help myself to friends. It's the law of the land, not some conjured up fantasy of what it "might" be.

A man with long money didn't start eating at fine dining establishments daily just because he takes a girl out on a date. This is his way of life, with or without her. She just needs to fit in when he is ready for her to fit in.

There is a big difference between the man who uses his money to get what he wants, and those who are used by their money.
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#81

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-24-2011 07:07 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2011 06:57 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

1) Make the girls "THINK" that they will be part of your lifestyle and access to a better life.
2) Bang and bust a nut
3) Catch amnesia

Yea. It's called selling them the dream. But you don't deliver. Tom leykis would be proud.

And that's exactly what me (and my boys) call it..."sellin' 'em a dream".
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#82

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-25-2011 01:11 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2011 07:07 PM)rakishness Wrote:  

Quote: (10-24-2011 06:57 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

1) Make the girls "THINK" that they will be part of your lifestyle and access to a better life.
2) Bang and bust a nut
3) Catch amnesia

Yea. It's called selling them the dream. But you don't deliver. Tom leykis would be proud.

And that's exactly what me (and my boys) call it..."sellin' 'em a dream".
Wow! I've said it before and I say it again:there is real life knowledge on this board beyond the hows and wherefores of the unending search for pussy. There is some serious hard earned wisdom on this thread people would pay money for.
But then again its no surprise-the posters here have repeatedly shown they're true alphas;connoisseurs of the real in the amphitheatre of the actual.
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#83

Rich guys always win.

I recently had the pleasure of being in a whale's world for just a couple of days. One of my buddies is going into business, and somehow he met a businessman who put him under his wing. I got a call from one of my boys telling me they were headed to Vegas, and that this businessman friend was basically covering it all. A couple of guys had already been out there a couple of days. This guy is a software magnate, and told my friend to invite as many of his friends as he wanted out to enjoy. He was wining and dining potential clients for his security software (one guy was from the CDC, another from LA Port Police, and there was a third guy but I can't recall where he worked), and invited us along for the ride. He stayed at the Bellagio. He had a hotel employee at his beck and call, making arrangements for whatever he wanted. When he rolled into one of the casinos, they moved folks out of their seats to accomodate him. He held down a table at the The Bank nightclub 5 straight nights, and got a DJ shoutout when he rolled in (he's not famous mind you...one night Paris Hilton was in the house, but didn't get acknowledged when SHE rolled in). He would chill for a little bit, then leave, but let us party as long as we wanted and simply sign for him. I didn't see the bill, but one of my boys said it was around $15 - $20,000 a night. Just like that, without a second thought, for guys he didn't even know. He's Indian by birth, but grew up in the US South. He's married of course, but flies a young blond girlfriend everywhere he's traveling on business (he's at least in his 50s). She talked of course, so she told us he won a cool million at the tables one night, and told us about all the places she's gone with him. All of his potential clients were married too, but all had THEIR girlfriends with them! It was hilarious. And it's beautiful to be able to drop your credit card down and not even need to be there to see the bill. And it was nice for me and my boys to be able to party like that and not worry about the damage for once.

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#84

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-25-2011 03:45 AM)pitt Wrote:  

Where did i say that making 100k a year is a lot of money?

Dude, relax. Nobody's calling you out. Be cool.

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And who said that every bar tender will be pointing you out everytime saying that you own the club?

Well, if you own that club, and you treat your staff with respect, why wouldn't he?

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And who told you that every men that is valued at more than 50 millions dollars own clubs?

You asked how the girls would know someone is rich without him spending fortune on their drinks or giving 3000 for the phone numbers.
So I gave you a pretty obvious example how they would know it.
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#85

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100k annually is not a lot of money ?? hmm I wonder what the average American makes a year.
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#86

Rich guys always win.

Quote: (10-25-2011 08:53 PM)velkrum Wrote:  

100k annually is not a lot of money ?? hmm I wonder what the average American makes a year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_i...ted_States

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In 2006, the "real" (adjusted for inflation) median annual household income rose 1.3% to $50,233.00 according to the Census Bureau.[4] The real median earnings of men who worked full time, year-round climbed between 2006 and 2007, from $43,460 to $45,113 (about 3.6 time minimum wage in 2006 to 3.7 time minimum wage in 2007). For women, the corresponding increase was from $33,437 to $35,102 (2.8 and 2.9 times minimum wage respectively).

Also...

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The U.S. Census Bureau offers income data by household and individual. 42% of households have two income earners; thus making households' income levels higher than personal income levels.[8] The 2005 economic survey revealed the income distribution for households and individuals whereby the top 5% of individuals had six figure incomes (exceeding $100,000) and the top 10% of individuals had incomes exceeding $75,000.

A man making $100k pulls in around double the nation's average individual income and is in the top 5% of all income earners.
This is not "rich", per se, but it is generally fairly well off. Not balling by any means, but well off.

I emphasize the term generally because it varies by locale.

Ex: I just took a look at CNNMoney's cost of living calculator, a fun tool to play with if you wanna know how expensive a given city really is. I decided to compare Manhattan and Atlanta, putting in $100,000 for my income in Manhattan and seeing what I'd need to earn in Atlanta to live similarly.

I got $44,131. In other words, we can conclude:

-Manhattan is more than twice as expensive as Atlanta.
-$100,000 in Manhattan is pretty middling, buying you a lifestyle equivalent to the nation's median income. People in Georgia making $44k have similar buying power. In Atlanta, $100,000 goes a lot further and might be considered a lot of money due to lower cost of living.

So, is $100,000 a lot of money? Depends on where you are. In many places you can live very well on it and, due to low cost of living, it might be called a lot of money. In a place like NYC, San Francisco or Boston, it doesn't go that far.

It is not "balling" by any measurable standard. If that is the status you want and you live in a place like NY, you'll probably need at least 50-100 times that number, though you could probably reach that level on less in a city like Houston or Atlanta.

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#87

Rich guys always win.

Also keep in mind that a single person making $100,000 is really getting about $66,000-$68,000 in NET money with the rest going to taxes (Federal, State and sometimes city/town tax), Social Security and Medicare.
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#88

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Quote: (10-25-2011 09:33 PM)UrbanNerd Wrote:  

Also keep in mind that a single person making $100,000 is really getting about $66,000-$68,000 in NET money with the rest going to taxes (Federal, State and sometimes city/town tax), Social Security and Medicare.

To me that's still a lot of monthly dough. I used to earn 1900 euro net a months in a good office job.

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#89

Rich guys always win.

Pusscrook :

For instance, I think Neil Skywalker has done himself a disservice with serious delusions of grandeur, then, when he understood the reality of what money is, and what it can do, frustration sets in. He has the motivation, but implementing "motivation" as we have seen, is useless.


Dont understand this part, can you explain in a bit more simpler english. Not a native speaker. Thanks.

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