[snoop]

(12-13-2012 04:49 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

You're very kind but I think it is cowardly of me. I don't run into very many quality girls in most of the rest of my life. I tease and flirt but there's no pressure because I don't want most of them. There's a few at the gym that I would break in half given the chance. But I don't make the chance happen. I am at the gym to work out hard and people notice me there (I'm the older dude with the grey pony tail who lifts heavy shit like someone half his age) so if someone wanted to make trouble for me for hitting on them it would be pretty easy. There would be no mistake about who it was etc. Still, I'm an opportunist by nature and I'm not stirring that pot like I should. I'm still waking up from too many years of marriage and LTR.

Take the pressure off of yourself then. Find ways to talk to them without hitting on them. I find it helps if you find ways to talk to the men in the gym too, then you just come across as a friendly person interested in others.

Most gyms have televisions, so if someone is standing around for a minute watching something in between exercises just start talking to them like you would anybody else. During the NCAA BBall tourney last year I started talking the chick on the treadmill next to me by asking her if she filled out a bracket and how she was doing in it.

[Kid Strangelove]

Ok guys, I have a very specific situation at my gym

There is this ridiculous, "intense" track style class at my gym twice a week. Nothing gets me as sweaty, sore and tired as this class. It's quite possibly the perfect workout.

This class tends to attract a good number of very hot, very fit girls. However, once the class is over, i am a sweat soaked mess, plus during the class it gets insanely hard to keep up, so compared to some of the other people in that class i might be considered a weakling (I lift heavy but when you're asked to do 20 weird plank twists then jumps, then sprints, it will wear you the fuck out and requires a completely different skillset then a benchpress)

So, what should I do to get with the girls in these intense classes? I go to the gym at other times and never see the girls from that class there, so that's out of the picture unfortunately.

[Giovonny]

(01-09-2013 02:31 PM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

So, what should I do to get with the girls in these intense classes?

TALK TO THEM!!!

Chat before class, as you are waiting for the instructor and setting up. Get there early so you have plenty of time to talk. Talk to all the girls not just the hot ones, they will tell their cute friends that you are cool. Talk to the guys. Be social.

Once class starts, you won't be able to talk much but you can still make the occasional comment about how hard this class is for bodybuilders like yourself and make fun of yourself, etc.

Talk after class also. If you are worried about looking sweaty, wrap a large towel around your head like boxers do. This is cool way to look sweaty..



NOTICE HOW THE TOWEL IS TUCKED INTO HIS SHIRT! THIS IS KEY! It looks way better.

I would put on a hooded sweatshirt after class to further minimize sweat dripping off your body!

Tuck the towel into your sweatshirt AND wrap a 2nd towel around your neck. This way, there should be no sweat dripping off your body. Use the towel around your neck to wipe the sweat off your face/neck.

And/Or...Go take a shower and then linger around the lobby area of the gym so you will "run into" the girls from class on their way out.

You will see these girls around the gym. You should be saying "hi" to each other. You should know each other from class.

Bottom line: Talk to them!!!

(12-13-2012 07:49 PM)Anon-A-Moose Wrote:  

WITHOUT HEADPHONES

I don't care if a girl has on headphones or not. I just go up and tap her on shoulder. Don't let headphones scare you away!

[Dr. Howard]

I am split on this one. I used to go to fitness classes, it was a pretty social environment so I never felt 'out of place' using it to chat girls up etc. I second whoever suggested Galnuc as an approach. Personally I would use nothing related to the gym or class at all as an elderly opener. Talk about her phone or water bottle or accent

Now, this is in contrast to when I'm at the gym to lift weights. I usually have a face on that looks like I'm in a movie montage training so I can take revenge on an entire street gang that murdered my brother and got away with it. Switching from that focus to light and breezy daygame would make me look psychotic. I also like my gym and would not be interested in dealing with girl drama later...like picking up girls at work.

[Sleek]

Saw a few hot girls at my gym today. Kinda upset I didn't approach. One girl was a 9.5 and now I'm kicking myself for not finding out her flaws. Had a chance to approach too. She had headphones in and of course I used this an cop-out even though I was doing an exercise next to her with free weights. Use this as an example. Approach or regret!

[Every10GivesMeA10]

I approached a cute girl at the gym today who was hitting some Squats and leg press. I saw her looking around the gym and she made eye contact with me. I immediately thought of Roosh's words in Day Bang that if she is looking around, she is open for a conversation. Turns out she was and I got her number within 2-3 minutes.

I went back to finish some tricep work when I saw her talk to some other guys at the gym who help her remove the plates about me. I'm pretty sure the guys got a bit pissed but oh well. I just used her to get rid of my AA

[jammer]

(02-02-2013 08:49 AM)Every10GivesMeA10 Wrote:  

I approached a cute girl at the gym today who was hitting some Squats and leg press. I saw her looking around the gym and she made eye contact with me. I immediately thought of Roosh's words in Day Bang that if she is looking around, she is open for a conversation. Turns out she was and I got her number within 2-3 minutes.

I went back to finish some tricep work when I saw her talk to some other guys at the gym who help her remove the plates about me. I'm pretty sure the guys got a bit pissed but oh well. I just used her to get rid of my AA

Give us a summary of your conversation

[Thrill Jackson]

skip to 25:40

This guy breaks one of the first rules of game. Never take advice from a woman.

[ballsyamog]

^Haha just saw this today as well.... Would definitely bang

[heavy]

"Butt day, eh?"

I'll report back when I ask this

[Bullfucker]

Trying to meet girls in the gym is retarded

There is a time and place for everything

[El Triste]

I don't really hit in girls at the gym unless we're both done working out. I generally bust my ass at the gym and grunt and an intense so they're already checking me out so I have my pick no need to rush.

Good lines are a combination of "calibrated" to the girl, flattering and clearly and obviously flirtatious. Come up with some lines on your own fitting this criteria and fire them out.

[NickDunne]

There are 3 kinds of guys in the gym:
(Neither the listing order nor the content are meant to insult in any way)

1. Homosexuals
2. "Autosexuals" - bodybuilders in love with their muscles who live for that and see only their reflection in the mirror. If two 10s started making out next to them, they wouldn't notice unless they were blocking the mirror. Roids also help this condition.
3. All the rest.

Within that 3rd group, if you are not among the top 3 guys (currently present in the gym, top guy in a smaller gym) based on muscle beauty, you need not bother. Girls who are open to game in the gym from the guys know what they want and it's usually muscle and a well built body. My experience so far, at least.

Of course you can match on other interest, but the primary impression would be you against all these other guys who are superior to you in what all the group is currently doing.

It's like running dancing game with two left feet.

[Kieran]

^ I hate to be blunt when you've taken the time to post your thoughts, but that's complete rubbish. Do you think the same thing is true in night-life - that you need to be in the top 3 men to be able to have success? Why would the gym be any different?

This next post must be one of the worst in game forum history:

'Don't say anything- Get jacked and she'll notice you.

People mutter useless shit to this girl all day I'm sure.'

[NickDunne]

Because the whole gym environment is geared to a very specific purpose and progress and a "ranking" of men is very visible. I was not precise enough in my dancing example - I meant running game in a let's say salsa event where dance enthusiast go.

And yes, I've noticed more times than I can count that if I find myself next to a guy who is taller and better looking then me, I become much less visible to women. All the women feel that they are entitled to the top guy, the AMOG. And all have their eyes on him. When I go out to a smaller night venue and see a guy like that with whom I cannot compete looks wise, I eject. Call me a loser or defeatist because of that you can. I call myself practical. Yes, I could try, but the ROI on the average is just not worth it for me.

Now not to sound completely whiney, there have been plenty of times where I was the strongest straight guy in the gym and I could feel the difference in perceptiom from the female side.

[Kieran]

You seem to think that men exist in a kind of line up that women choose from. In my way of thinking it's the reverse. When somebody with game approaches a woman and she becomes engaged, she forgets all about the top guy in the club or whatever. Game is about being pro-active, not building yourself and waiting for a woman to choose you.

[El Triste]

That's actually true in my experience. Good game trumps "top guys". You can be the best looking and sexy man out there, but if she's the
Type of girl who won't approach you first, the guy with good game will overshadow you. Notice I said good game though, not mediocre.

[CaptainChardonnay]

I have banged some chicks who go to the same gym as me. If it didn't work out usually what happens is the chick just finds another gym. It's never really awkward for me. Most of the people working at my gym are fucking losers (power trip, one moment act like your friend then the next no) anyways so their opinion doesn't really faze me.

[El Triste]

Good attitude. Most people who work at gyms are extreme losers for sure

[NickDunne]

@Kieran & El Triste

I completely agree with what you both said yet I still stick to what I wrote above. My thoughts are on averages here. Of course that good game will sometimes trump killer looks - I'd be a bloody fool to deny that. But the gym is about looks mostly - a very specific aspect of looks. And that puts you down the hierarchy immediately if you are not strong and ripped.

Yes, you will bang if you go in and the more muscled guy does not do anything. But your initial hurdle is way bigger then in a "normal" environment.

And then you also deal with the potential postbang drama if both you and the girl are regulars.
I say go to the gym for your own health and looks, concentrate on a proper workout and look to capitalize elsewhere unless you are the top dog at your gym.

Just from the economical standpoint. Lower ROI. Never saying it cannot be done.

[Kieran]

Maybe in some kind of powerlifting or crossfit gym, but in a regular health club most women don't really give a fuck about all that. Personally, if I see a girl I'm attracted to in the gym and I have an opportunity such as working out in close proximity, then I'll have a bash. I don't care about ROI as I enjoy flirting.

I think here you're taking how you view yourself in the gym and being in this imaginary hierarchy, and assuming women see it the same way. I'm a pretty social person, and while I train with real intensity and everything is planned out meticulously with timed rest periods and recorded in my journal, I like to laugh and joke around with everybody between sets when I can, and smile. Popularity is attractive to women. Maybe the 'top dog' is having success too, we all can. It's win win.

[El Triste]

My whole thing is this though...

There's too much thinking about heirarchy
And popularity in this thread. It really is a barrier that's totally unnecessary. All you have to do is just try your luck and troll around.

At my gym I do not get along with the male staff, because they spend their time trying to
Impress the female staff with their "alpha" behavior. It's obvious insecurity. The gym I go to is a dark and depressing place to work. Nobody smiles and those that do stop smiling eventually.

Yet I get along with the upper management and the owners and guess what? That gives me power over the rest of the staff. I can get them fired if I wanted to.

As far as other gym goers I don't concern myself with heirarchy at all. Just because a guy is more fit and better looking doesn't give him any power over me, unless I give it to him. If the girl is perceiving him as a better choice than me, that's only because I haven't gone in and tried my hand at getting at her yet.

I'm one of those guys who girls are always saying "you're not my usual type" and "omg I can't believe I'm talking to you" because they are actually powerless to stop themselves from being attracted to me. This is because I may not be their ideal socially acceptable type, or what they are used to dating but I'm certainly powerful enough to override that because I'm not thinking of heirarchy and popularity. I'm only thinking about making it happen and the less I give a fuck about consequences the better.

Popularity and heirarchy are illusions. They don't mean shit outside of their limited conceptual framework, because while yes it may make it easier for you, it certainly doesn't handicap you in any meaningful way IF and ONLY if you got your shit together (aka you don't care about what people think, you go for what you want in life and are a smart warrior)

[El Triste]

Plus, a fuckboy reputation helps you if you're truly a bad man about it. Meaning that you're not just this thirsty guy fucking everything, but you're an an uncontrollable, dominating and incorrigible fucker of women who knows when
To turn on the charm and when to let the devil out.

[rainy]

I was a personal trainer at one point. What I found was the best way to get at a woman is to approach as tell her whatever she's doing, she's doing it wrong. Whether she's actually doing it right or wrong is not the point.

Approach in that manner you give off the vibe of confidence and knowledge. You also approached in a manner 99% of gym goers will not which will interest her. Then you correct her, show her a thing or two and she'll thank you.

Then you decide where to take it from there but the opportunity has been opened.

[El Triste]

Sounds like a solid approach might have to try it.