[nomadicdude]

Trying to figure out Brazilian chicks. I'm chasing one right now and I'm being pretty aggressive because I figure that is more likely to work in a place like this where girls get hit on a ton. For instance, I texted her the day after I met and I try to set up dates as much as possible. So far it seems to be working, though no flag yet. Catholic guilt is hard to overcome here.

There is no fuking way I'd do this with American girls as it would seem desperate and she'd just lose interest. So what works in Brazil?

And yeah, I know Roosh has a whole book on this, need to check that out eventually.

[KingofScotland]

I don't get your logic, you've said yourself guys in Brazil are pretty agressive and girls get hit on a lot so you've figured being exactly the same as them and being aggressive is a good way to stand out from the crowd?

I can only vouch for myself but not being the typical aggressive Brazilian stereotype worked a treat. Being outgoing but not pushy (Brazilian guys aggressively go for a kiss all the time without even talking to a girl), making the girls laugh, taking my time, being polite and friendly and showing I was willing to put some time and effort in seemed to work for me. There are a lot of girls who just aren't into being molested by every guy they see or fed up of the Brazilian overly macho and aggressive manner and will think it's "so cute" that you haven't taken that route.

[nomadicdude]

Well, my theory is this. Brazilian chicks are use to guys just hitting on them everywhere, trying to get the easy quick lay and then move on to the next girl. By being a little more persistent and trying to show you are willing to invest some time with her you distinguish yourself from Brazilian dudes.

I didn't meant aggressive as in trying to rape her immediately. By the way, everyone I've met in Brazil says that Brazilian guys are super aggressive and will immediately try to make out with chicks, etc. I haven't seen this yet. Even on the beach they'll be tons of beautiful women and I still haven't seen any guy approach one. In contrast, when I was in Colombia a hot girl alone on the beach wouldn't last 10 minutes without a guy approaching.

[Spike]

(10-16-2011 04:57 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

I don't get your logic, you've said yourself guys in Brazil are pretty agressive and girls get hit on a lot so you've figured being exactly the same as them and being aggressive is a good way to stand out from the crowd?

I can only vouch for myself but not being the typical aggressive Brazilian stereotype worked a treat. Being outgoing but not pushy (Brazilian guys aggressively go for a kiss all the time without even talking to a girl), making the girls laugh, taking my time, being polite and friendly and showing I was willing to put some time and effort in seemed to work for me. There are a lot of girls who just aren't into being molested by every guy they see or fed up of the Brazilian overly macho and aggressive manner and will think it's "so cute" that you haven't taken that route.

Last night i was gaming a French girl at Emporio bar in Rio. I tried the whole connection thing like described above. Making her laugh,taking my time etc etc. Than some drunk Brazilian guy just grabs her by the shoulders, she fighting him of for a second of two but as he is stronger than her,he just forced his lips on her. Some people started cheering and she kissed him back. I was pissed of by this and went inside the bar to take a piss. When i came back they were nowhere to be seen for the rest of the night. Her Californian girlfriend also left with some guy.

So much for building attraction, some brazilian guy just forces himself on her. In holland he would get a on way ticket to a police cell or get his ass kicked by bystanders.

I wonder if she left with the guy to fuck somewhere. Before this happend she gave me her facebook and said we should meet again in Salvador. She's going there around the same time like me. I didnt add her and probably never will but dont know what to do if i see her again in Salvador. She obviously is a push over and might be easy to lay.

Advice anyone.

[nomadicdude]

(10-16-2011 06:34 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Last night i was gaming a French girl at Emporio bar in Rio. I tried the whole connection thing like described above. Making her laugh,taking my time etc etc. Than some drunk Brazilian guy just grabs her by the shoulders, she fighting him of for a second of two but as he is stronger than her,he just forced his lips on her. Some people started cheering and she kissed him back. I was pissed of by this and went inside the bar to take a piss. When i came back they were nowhere to be seen for the rest of the night. Her Californian girlfriend also left with some guy.

So much for building attraction, some brazilian guy just forces himself on her. In holland he would get a on way ticket to a police cell or get his ass kicked by bystanders.

I wonder if she left with the guy to fuck somewhere. Before this happend she gave me her facebook and said we should meet again in Salvador. She's going there around the same time like me. I didnt add her and probably never will but dont know what to do if i see her again in Salvador. She obviously is a push over and might be easy to lay.

Advice anyone.

You don't know she left with him. It's more likely that she got freaked out after he kissed her and then she bounced. And if she is decent looking I wouldn't get rid of her so quick. I seriously doubt she got pounded by the Brazilian dude.

Anyway, I need to see more of this Brazilian caveman game- it sounds pretty amazing. It's amazing that it doesn't happen on the beach, given how many hot ass girls hang out there.

[flashbang]

(10-16-2011 06:34 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-16-2011 04:57 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

I don't get your logic, you've said yourself guys in Brazil are pretty agressive and girls get hit on a lot so you've figured being exactly the same as them and being aggressive is a good way to stand out from the crowd?

I can only vouch for myself but not being the typical aggressive Brazilian stereotype worked a treat. Being outgoing but not pushy (Brazilian guys aggressively go for a kiss all the time without even talking to a girl), making the girls laugh, taking my time, being polite and friendly and showing I was willing to put some time and effort in seemed to work for me. There are a lot of girls who just aren't into being molested by every guy they see or fed up of the Brazilian overly macho and aggressive manner and will think it's "so cute" that you haven't taken that route.

Last night i was gaming a French girl at Emporio bar in Rio. I tried the whole connection thing like described above. Making her laugh,taking my time etc etc. Than some drunk Brazilian guy just grabs her by the shoulders, she fighting him of for a second of two but as he is stronger than her,he just forced his lips on her. Some people started cheering and she kissed him back. I was pissed of by this and went inside the bar to take a piss. When i came back they were nowhere to be seen for the rest of the night. Her Californian girlfriend also left with some guy.

So much for building attraction, some brazilian guy just forces himself on her. In holland he would get a on way ticket to a police cell or get his ass kicked by bystanders.

I wonder if she left with the guy to fuck somewhere. Before this happend she gave me her facebook and said we should meet again in Salvador. She's going there around the same time like me. I didnt add her and probably never will but dont know what to do if i see her again in Salvador. She obviously is a push over and might be easy to lay.

Advice anyone.

Add her anyway. There's nothing to lose. It takes 5 seconds to add her and if she doesn't respond fuck her you've got loads of other options.

[GiovanniRio]

The "caveman" approach works, especially with Brazilian chicks - but seems to be working to when a Brazilian approaches a foreign chick (it's exciting and different to them). I never talk more than 5-10 minutes to a girl when going out in Rio without at least trying to kiss her. It's what they expect. Not going for the kiss often makes her wonder if you are interested or not. If she doesn't 'take it', I'll go on to the next girl. They often come back if they where interested and I'm not with someone else in the meanwhile. I then kiss within the minute. Remember that a kiss in Brazil means nothing. Kissing is part of a night out dancing, drinking,...

Emporio is an ok place if you went to a local bar, which closes and nothing else is open. But it's hardly a great place to meet nice women. It's famous for tourists (backpacker types) and some Brazilian working girls. You'll hardly find local girls there. Forget seeing good looking women over there.

The "nice guy" approach does work, but only with the girls who had so many bad experiences that they now hope to find the prince on the white horse from another country. In general that means the low- to middle class chick. Thing is however that even in those cases, when someone else approaches her in the meanwhile - and goes fast on her, her habits will take over and she'll kiss & fuck him.
Chances lost.

[InternationPlayboy]

Persistence works for example when you try and kiss a girl and she gives you the head turn. I got that a million times in Brazil, honestly with just about every girl I tried making out with. I guess they just don't wanna come off so easy. But you texting her the day after you met her is the wrong type of persistence.

[KingofScotland]

My impression of Brazilian guys seemed to be that they kissed a lot of girls but didn't neccessarily fuck nearly as much. The strategy seems to be go for the kiss and then move on as if kissing the girl was the most important thing. Let them go around kissing every girl that moves, I'd rather find one girl, isolate her and build up from there. Brazilian guys are the most agressive cock blockers on the planet, they'll do anything to get the girl away from you. I've been followed round clubs for hours on end by some Brazilian idiot(s) giving me abuse and talking shit to the girl I'm with.

[GiovanniRio]

(10-17-2011 02:22 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

My impression of Brazilian guys seemed to be that they kissed a lot of girls but didn't neccessarily fuck nearly as much. The strategy seems to be go for the kiss and then move on as if kissing the girl was the most important thing. Let them go around kissing every girl that moves, I'd rather find one girl, isolate her and build up from there. Brazilian guys are the most agressive cock blockers on the planet, they'll do anything to get the girl away from you. I've been followed round clubs for hours on end by some Brazilian idiot(s) giving me abuse and talking shit to the girl I'm with.

Dead on... Brazilian guys don't have a clue how to go further... that's when game comes in for us. But kissing her within the 5-10 minutes frame is gold. Because if you then stick with her & show her a great time (and she you of course), you'll be off to a motel.

[Spike]

(10-17-2011 04:09 PM)GiovanniRio Wrote:  

(10-17-2011 02:22 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

My impression of Brazilian guys seemed to be that they kissed a lot of girls but didn't neccessarily fuck nearly as much. The strategy seems to be go for the kiss and then move on as if kissing the girl was the most important thing. Let them go around kissing every girl that moves, I'd rather find one girl, isolate her and build up from there. Brazilian guys are the most agressive cock blockers on the planet, they'll do anything to get the girl away from you. I've been followed round clubs for hours on end by some Brazilian idiot(s) giving me abuse and talking shit to the girl I'm with.

Dead on... Brazilian guys don't have a clue how to go further... that's when game comes in for us. But kissing her within the 5-10 minutes frame is gold. Because if you then stick with her & show her a great time (and she you of course), you'll be off to a motel.

gonna meet a hot black girl [couchsurfing] tonight, another day another chance

sidenote i dont care about kissing a girl if it leads nowhere

[Pilgrim37]

(10-17-2011 04:32 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-17-2011 04:09 PM)GiovanniRio Wrote:  

(10-17-2011 02:22 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

My impression of Brazilian guys seemed to be that they kissed a lot of girls but didn't neccessarily fuck nearly as much. The strategy seems to be go for the kiss and then move on as if kissing the girl was the most important thing. Let them go around kissing every girl that moves, I'd rather find one girl, isolate her and build up from there. Brazilian guys are the most agressive cock blockers on the planet, they'll do anything to get the girl away from you. I've been followed round clubs for hours on end by some Brazilian idiot(s) giving me abuse and talking shit to the girl I'm with.

Dead on... Brazilian guys don't have a clue how to go further... that's when game comes in for us. But kissing her within the 5-10 minutes frame is gold. Because if you then stick with her & show her a great time (and she you of course), you'll be off to a motel.

gonna meet a hot black girl [couchsurfing] tonight, another day another chance

sidenote i dont care about kissing a girl if it leads nowhere

This girl was French right?
Well,she won't be familiar with the same kissing culture.
So maybe,if she let this guy cut your lunch while you were right there, she was just a slut waiting for a guy to put it on her!

Forget it and move on.

[KingofScotland]

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sidenote i dont care about kissing a girl if it leads nowhere

No but it's in the Brazilian culture to kiss, they do it all the time, it has little meaning so you can't be upset if you kissed a girl but it led nowhere or she goes off with another guy. I think what others are saying is right, kiss fairly quickly but then hang around and build attraction, be funny, don't get too caveman on them and you should be off to a love motel in no time.

[Spike]

(10-18-2011 02:14 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

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sidenote i dont care about kissing a girl if it leads nowhere

No but it's in the Brazilian culture to kiss, they do it all the time, it has little meaning so you can't be upset if you kissed a girl but it led nowhere or she goes off with another guy. I think what others are saying is right, kiss fairly quickly but then hang around and build attraction, be funny, don't get too caveman on them and you should be off to a love motel in no time.

Getting a bit tired of people saying, lays guarenteed, easy lays, of to a love motel in no time.
Im struggling as fuck here.

[Amour Fou]

MY TAKE:

VENUE SELECTION.

I've always been preaching this on other threads.

[Amour Fou]

(10-17-2011 04:09 PM)GiovanniRio Wrote:  

(10-17-2011 02:22 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

My impression of Brazilian guys seemed to be that they kissed a lot of girls but didn't neccessarily fuck nearly as much. The strategy seems to be go for the kiss and then move on as if kissing the girl was the most important thing. Let them go around kissing every girl that moves, I'd rather find one girl, isolate her and build up from there. Brazilian guys are the most agressive cock blockers on the planet, they'll do anything to get the girl away from you. I've been followed round clubs for hours on end by some Brazilian idiot(s) giving me abuse and talking shit to the girl I'm with.

Dead on... Brazilian guys don't have a clue how to go further... that's when game comes in for us. But kissing her within the 5-10 minutes frame is gold. Because if you then stick with her & show her a great time (and she you of course), you'll be off to a motel.

I NEVER get cockblocked by guys on the places I go. I get more cockblocked by poser faux lesbian girls showing off than guys.

[Spike]

(10-18-2011 06:20 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 02:14 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

Quote:

sidenote i dont care about kissing a girl if it leads nowhere

No but it's in the Brazilian culture to kiss, they do it all the time, it has little meaning so you can't be upset if you kissed a girl but it led nowhere or she goes off with another guy. I think what others are saying is right, kiss fairly quickly but then hang around and build attraction, be funny, don't get too caveman on them and you should be off to a love motel in no time.

Getting a bit tired of people saying, lays guarenteed, easy lays, of to a love motel in no time.
Im struggling as fuck here.

Allright, I have to take that back. hyped myself up yesterday and went slow caveman. I GOT LAID !

[Spike]

(10-19-2011 12:38 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 06:20 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

(10-18-2011 02:14 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  

Quote:

sidenote i dont care about kissing a girl if it leads nowhere

No but it's in the Brazilian culture to kiss, they do it all the time, it has little meaning so you can't be upset if you kissed a girl but it led nowhere or she goes off with another guy. I think what others are saying is right, kiss fairly quickly but then hang around and build attraction, be funny, don't get too caveman on them and you should be off to a love motel in no time.

Getting a bit tired of people saying, lays guarenteed, easy lays, of to a love motel in no time.
Im struggling as fuck here.

Allright, I have to take that back. hyped myself up yesterday and went slow caveman. I GOT LAID !

And again last night !

[MiXX]

What about Portuguese (Portugal) women living in America? I have one hot on my trail right now asking to go out with me, it almost seems to easy, and it worries me.

Mixx

[Spike]

I wouldnt go for the caveman kissing with her if she is used to the american way, unless she lived in Brazil for a while.

[nomadicdude]

PS. I ended up banging the chick I mentioned in my original post. It took almost two weeks, but I only met here a total of three times and sent a few emails/texts. The third meeting we just got drinks then I just straight out suggested we go to a motel. I just got us in a taxi and took us there. She never said yes, but never said no, so I figured it was okay.

Brazilian girls are crazy.

[Mr.GM]

(10-17-2011 07:56 AM)GiovanniRio Wrote:  

The "caveman" approach works, especially with Brazilian chicks - but seems to be working to when a Brazilian approaches a foreign chick (it's exciting and different to them). I never talk more than 5-10 minutes to a girl when going out in Rio without at least trying to kiss her. It's what they expect. Not going for the kiss often makes her wonder if you are interested or not. If she doesn't 'take it', I'll go on to the next girl. They often come back if they where interested and I'm not with someone else in the meanwhile. I then kiss within the minute. Remember that a kiss in Brazil means nothing. Kissing is part of a night out dancing, drinking,...

Emporio is an ok place if you went to a local bar, which closes and nothing else is open. But it's hardly a great place to meet nice women. It's famous for tourists (backpacker types) and some Brazilian working girls. You'll hardly find local girls there. Forget seeing good looking women over there.

The "nice guy" approach does work, but only with the girls who had so many bad experiences that they now hope to find the prince on the white horse from another country. In general that means the low- to middle class chick. Thing is however that even in those cases, when someone else approaches her in the meanwhile - and goes fast on her, her habits will take over and she'll kiss & fuck him.
Chances lost.

Giovanni really knows Brazil.Thats how it works around here.Always go for the fast kiss ,unless you are dealing with a girl from previous social circle.




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