[bgbusiness]

(04-21-2019 05:11 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

I've been dating a girl for 5/6 months. Just found out she is a high class escort and has been lying to me about various things and her work. Obviously this cannot continue and I wont be seeing her again, I've managed to get concrete evidence. Do I talk to her about this? Or do I just ghost her?

I can only assume that you were a beta provider who was placating her with flowers and expensive fucking dinners.

Go get STD(mouth) checked, go out and bang other women. No need for closure if she has hidden that SHIT of being a prostitute from you. Have more self-respect. Hope she was at least some expensive hooker with nice fake tits so at least you got some pre-selection working for you when you were outside with her.

[wonderer1]

(04-21-2019 03:59 PM)Tinder Scientist Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 01:54 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 12:52 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

this is 1 step away from being a troll thread

Ghost her with no closure, Learn game, get a better woman, actually fuck her.

I understand her effort is very attractive, but sounds to me she's playing you. I personally don't understand how she's and escort AND waiting for marriage but im sure I'm overlooking a detail.

playing me for what reason?

She probably realized you have money and are easily manipulated. When she was able to control you for months without even having sex she knew you were a prime target for emotional/financial manipulation in the future.

I would say forget about relationships for the time being, you are obviously not ready. I'm not trying to be harsh but you sound like someone who is maybe a bit too "nice" you should try aiming for the other extreme with game so you can find a balance.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt of assuming you are not trolling, how exactly did you find out? And I'm assuming she knows you are wealthy. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, just cut off contact with her and don't fall for this again.

I made a fake instagram account and started messaging her on there. I did it in the way tag your sponsor messages the girls. Said I was in duabi and from a important family, offered 40k for roping her up having sex with her, 3 others watching then all pissing on her. She agreed to it all.

Luckily she didn't manipulate me as much as she could have, I never gave her money, paid for anything for her, apart from dates when she was here, or took her on holiday. I made sure when we were shopping to say things like I am broke.

I met her through instagram, my instagram has a lot of travelling pictures as I travel every 1/2 months.

I did think she had feelings for me, travelling to see me for valentines day, cooking for me, gifts, speaking with her mum, her mum has instagram and follows a handful of people which included me, no other boys she follows.

for those wondering how she can be an escort and want marriage, shes more into the sponsorship game, shes not an escort that bangs a few guys every night, she always has videos with kids, and her friends kids, from the outside she just seems like a normal girl. she would always ask why she isn't married, and shed cry in front of me when id ask her why she didn't have a bf and wh yshe didn't like Russian or Uzbek boys, say that all her friends are married.

I started to figure shit out as she was always travelling, she would be in Uzbekistan at one month at a time, then Madrid, then Bangladesh, now in Dubai. 10 days in india, a month in London, things weren't adding up which is why I had to find out the truth with the fake account. Glad I did so I can ghost and move on.

[Monkey Business]

Jesus. The extent of this bitch's thottery knows no bounds. If this is legitimate, and isn't a troll, this is a sobering reminder that all is how it should be in the world. Hell, there should be mainstream news articles about this shit. If it were a man living a double-life....you wouldn't hear the end of it. But nah, it's the specimen with the vagina, so it's just standard fair. Nothing to see here.

[Donfitz007]

Post like this simply remind me to never trust women.

[jalke63]

Nevermind

[PapayaTapper]

(04-22-2019 01:28 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 03:59 PM)Tinder Scientist Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 01:54 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 12:52 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

this is 1 step away from being a troll thread

Ghost her with no closure, Learn game, get a better woman, actually fuck her.

I understand her effort is very attractive, but sounds to me she's playing you. I personally don't understand how she's and escort AND waiting for marriage but im sure I'm overlooking a detail.

playing me for what reason?

She probably realized you have money and are easily manipulated. When she was able to control you for months without even having sex she knew you were a prime target for emotional/financial manipulation in the future.

I would say forget about relationships for the time being, you are obviously not ready. I'm not trying to be harsh but you sound like someone who is maybe a bit too "nice" you should try aiming for the other extreme with game so you can find a balance.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt of assuming you are not trolling, how exactly did you find out? And I'm assuming she knows you are wealthy. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, just cut off contact with her and don't fall for this again.

I made a fake instagram account and started messaging her on there. I did it in the way tag your sponsor messages the girls. Said I was in duabi and from a important family, offered 40k for roping her up having sex with her, 3 others watching then all pissing on her. She agreed to it all.

Luckily she didn't manipulate me as much as she could have, I never gave her money, paid for anything for her, apart from dates when she was here, or took her on holiday. I made sure when we were shopping to say things like I am broke.

I met her through instagram, my instagram has a lot of travelling pictures as I travel every 1/2 months.

I did think she had feelings for me, travelling to see me for valentines day, cooking for me, gifts, speaking with her mum, her mum has instagram and follows a handful of people which included me, no other boys she follows.

for those wondering how she can be an escort and want marriage, shes more into the sponsorship game, shes not an escort that bangs a few guys every night, she always has videos with kids, and her friends kids, from the outside she just seems like a normal girl. she would always ask why she isn't married, and shed cry in front of me when id ask her why she didn't have a bf and wh yshe didn't like Russian or Uzbek boys, say that all her friends are married.

I started to figure shit out as she was always travelling, she would be in Uzbekistan at one month at a time, then Madrid, then Bangladesh, now in Dubai. 10 days in india, a month in London, things weren't adding up which is why I had to find out the truth with the fake account. Glad I did so I can ghost and move on.

- Looks like OP got a high value lesson at a very low cost. Most importantly he appears to have actually learned it

[PapayaTapper]

(04-22-2019 01:28 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 03:59 PM)Tinder Scientist Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 01:54 PM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 12:52 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

this is 1 step away from being a troll thread

Ghost her with no closure, Learn game, get a better woman, actually fuck her.

I understand her effort is very attractive, but sounds to me she's playing you. I personally don't understand how she's and escort AND waiting for marriage but im sure I'm overlooking a detail.

playing me for what reason?

She probably realized you have money and are easily manipulated. When she was able to control you for months without even having sex she knew you were a prime target for emotional/financial manipulation in the future.

I would say forget about relationships for the time being, you are obviously not ready. I'm not trying to be harsh but you sound like someone who is maybe a bit too "nice" you should try aiming for the other extreme with game so you can find a balance.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt of assuming you are not trolling, how exactly did you find out? And I'm assuming she knows you are wealthy. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, just cut off contact with her and don't fall for this again.

I made a fake instagram account and started messaging her on there. I did it in the way tag your sponsor messages the girls. Said I was in duabi and from a important family, offered 40k for roping her up having sex with her, 3 others watching then all pissing on her. She agreed to it all.

Luckily she didn't manipulate me as much as she could have, I never gave her money, paid for anything for her, apart from dates when she was here, or took her on holiday. I made sure when we were shopping to say things like I am broke.

I met her through instagram, my instagram has a lot of travelling pictures as I travel every 1/2 months.

I did think she had feelings for me, travelling to see me for valentines day, cooking for me, gifts, speaking with her mum, her mum has instagram and follows a handful of people which included me, no other boys she follows.

for those wondering how she can be an escort and want marriage, shes more into the sponsorship game, shes not an escort that bangs a few guys every night, she always has videos with kids, and her friends kids, from the outside she just seems like a normal girl. she would always ask why she isn't married, and shed cry in front of me when id ask her why she didn't have a bf and wh yshe didn't like Russian or Uzbek boys, say that all her friends are married.

I started to figure shit out as she was always travelling, she would be in Uzbekistan at one month at a time, then Madrid, then Bangladesh, now in Dubai. 10 days in india, a month in London, things weren't adding up which is why I had to find out the truth with the fake account. Glad I did so I can ghost and move on.

- Looks like OP got a high value lesson at a very low cost. Most importantly he appears to have actually learned it

[Dilated]

Don’t ghost. That’s feminine. Tell her she’s a whore and you don’t keep company like that.

[Blunt]

I'm skeptical that this actually happened.

OP, if this really did happen, then I suggest you focus on learning how to handle local girls even if you have to lower your standards before trying to mess with girls from hard-edge places like the former Soviet Union. Russian/FSU girls are the best manipulators on this planet and if they smell blood then you are toast.

[wonderer1]

(04-22-2019 11:43 PM)Blunt Wrote:  

I'm skeptical that this actually happened.

OP, if this really did happen, then I suggest you focus on learning how to handle local girls even if you have to lower your standards before trying to mess with girls from hard-edge places like the former Soviet Union. Russian/FSU girls are the best manipulators on this planet and if they smell blood then you are toast.

she was definitely constantly shit testing me. tried running jealousy lines, saying other people wanted to marry her, I acted unphased and encouraged she did it. hardly initiating, I would wait days to make her initiate every now and then, but sometimes it would be a week and she wouldn't initiate. one word text responses, or responding the next day, I just didn't reply to these. Pulling away when trying to kiss the first date then the second time she came, I acted unphased. Her ending phone calls first then saying she would call me back but never did, I never called her out on this and just acted like I didn't care. Saying she would text or call me about certain things and not doing so. When I say I meeting you in Moscow are these dates good, her delaying the process by saying she needs to check. Hot and cold. not reading/responding to messages at all, id give it a few days/ a week then just reinitiate. Standard Russian girl.

I would game her as best as I could, not responding straight away, jealousy plots of my own, I cancelled a day to the zoo the day after she wouldn't kiss me on valentines day and soft nexted her For a weekend while she was in London to see me.

The 5 months seems a long time to not be getting kissed or have sex, the timeline is this, she was here for one month in November. we were kissing then but no sex. then she came on valentines day for 10 days, she stopped allowing me to kiss her so I cancelled on her and soft nexted, she then was pecking me on the lips.. I have a flight booked for Friday to go to Moscow (I wont be seeing her there now), so we would've been seeing each other every 2 months on average.

@papayatapper - could've been worse, but time, money and emotional investment has been involved. Im stinging at the moment.

[Delta8]

(04-21-2019 09:12 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 06:30 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 06:14 AM)Mig Picante Wrote:  

Sorry to hear that man.
You've phrased it 'give closure' but I think it's probably more about your closure.

I don't like leaving things left unsaid personally, so I'd tell them why, it's like drawing a line in the sand and then move on.
You don't have to ever speak to them again after that.

The main thing is for you to have legal protection.

Keep the contact minimal. Under the circumstances, maybe a text to her explaining what you know and a good bye / good luck is sufficient. That way it would deter her from accusing you of something, as her attempts at revenge would have a context.

The amount of hamstering involved in being an escort yet maintaining relationships must be astounding. Crazy, and a crazy chick is dangerous.

what do you mean about the hamstring? I didn't understand. she is an escort but she wants a husband (she wanted that to be me)..

legal protection? what for? I never had sex with her and she stopped letting me kiss her saying she would only do this for her husband. I ended up catching feelings for her and wanted to scope things out more for a future. we would talk about passions, she is desperate for marriage and a kid, when I said what kind of husband are you looking for she said me.

now I'm thinking there's no point bringing this up, there would be 3 scenarios I can think of which would get me nowhere:

1. she denies and says it was a joke - I look like an idiot
2. she says she will change - puts me in an awkward situation, we know she cant work a normal life now.
3. she gets defensive, aggressive, says she doesn't like me etc - will make me feel more hurt.

I should just go ghost?

No freebies lol

As for the question in general I’d give closure before ghosting, it’s what separates us from women. It is the right thing to do in my opinion.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-21-2019 04:03 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  




One more example..."high class escort"

Great. You couldn't have told me this before I ordered my last 10,000 business cards?

[the.king]

(04-23-2019 01:30 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

I would game her as best as I could, not responding straight away, jealousy plots of my own, I cancelled a day to the zoo the day after she wouldn't kiss me on valentines day and soft nexted her For a weekend while she was in London to see me.

My man, game doesn't work like that. Some things you did are so low value, that cannot be saved because you responded late to a text.

You accepted a frame whereby a kiss from a woman (who is happy to get peed on by 3 strangers) is some kind of 'prize' that she can withhold.

You talk about jealously plotlines etc but what kind of man with real options would wait half a year for a kiss?

Learn from the experience, do an STD test, and move on : )

[Sam Malone]

(04-21-2019 04:58 PM)gework Wrote:  

I would say something final, but vague like, "After thinking about things I can't see us having a life together...". Whatever questions she throws, bat them off. Your decision is final.

+1, I like where gework is at here.

I think you need some sense of closure, versus just straight ghosting.

"I just don't feel like there's a connection", "We're two different people", "There are things I want to do before I consider settling down", etc.

^^ all truthful based on what I've read in your posts, it's just verbal gymnastics.

Get things off your chest, but be wary of confronting her about the escorting.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

Dude, thank your lucky stars that you got off so easily! This is a very sobering reminder to us all. Good move picking up on her traveling habits, pretty smart with the IG trick. I'd take the forum's advice of a firm but gentle next.

[Off The Reservation]

(04-23-2019 01:30 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

(04-22-2019 11:43 PM)Blunt Wrote:  

I'm skeptical that this actually happened.

OP, if this really did happen, then I suggest you focus on learning how to handle local girls even if you have to lower your standards before trying to mess with girls from hard-edge places like the former Soviet Union. Russian/FSU girls are the best manipulators on this planet and if they smell blood then you are toast.

she was definitely constantly shit testing me. tried running jealousy lines, saying other people wanted to marry her, I acted unphased and encouraged she did it. hardly initiating, I would wait days to make her initiate every now and then, but sometimes it would be a week and she wouldn't initiate. one word text responses, or responding the next day, I just didn't reply to these. Pulling away when trying to kiss the first date then the second time she came, I acted unphased. Her ending phone calls first then saying she would call me back but never did, I never called her out on this and just acted like I didn't care. Saying she would text or call me about certain things and not doing so. When I say I meeting you in Moscow are these dates good, her delaying the process by saying she needs to check. Hot and cold. not reading/responding to messages at all, id give it a few days/ a week then just reinitiate. Standard Russian girl.

I would game her as best as I could, not responding straight away, jealousy plots of my own, I cancelled a day to the zoo the day after she wouldn't kiss me on valentines day and soft nexted her For a weekend while she was in London to see me.

The 5 months seems a long time to not be getting kissed or have sex, the timeline is this, she was here for one month in November. we were kissing then but no sex. then she came on valentines day for 10 days, she stopped allowing me to kiss her so I cancelled on her and soft nexted, she then was pecking me on the lips.. I have a flight booked for Friday to go to Moscow (I wont be seeing her there now), so we would've been seeing each other every 2 months on average.

@papayatapper - could've been worse, but time, money and emotional investment has been involved. Im stinging at the moment.

This is the point of whores, to get you to spend your time, money and emotional investment. OP has very slyly convinced us this is not an IRT thread, but it is.

[Jay359]

(04-21-2019 05:11 AM)wonderer1 Wrote:  

I've been dating a girl for 5/6 months. Just found out she is a high class escort and has been lying to me about various things and her work. Obviously this cannot continue and I wont be seeing her again, I've managed to get concrete evidence. Do I talk to her about this? Or do I just ghost her?

If she was in the wrong (and severely so) then I don't believe you owe her any explanation. In any other situation where the girl isn't necessarily in the wrong and you're interested in ending the relationship because you're unhappy with her or for any other reason, then definitely don't ghost.

[Bienvenuto]

(04-21-2019 09:16 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

I guess you Sir should have taken her to Dubai like she asked. Just think of it from her perspective, here you are a fine young Pakistani guy Sir with the lustiest chick from Tashkent who is willing to give up her lifestyle for you Sir and you don't even take her where she wants to go Sir.

Sometimes art can be helpful we have quite a bit here on RVF dedicated to your situation Sir. I hope it soothes the pain of losing that damp, pasty white skin you only touched on the arm a few times. At least you did Sir! It is better to have loved a little in your thoughts and in your palm than not to have loved at all !!!

Here's a white version of this just to show that we are all part of one world facing the same thots.. No Borders.

I was working in West London in property, in a noodle bar on lunch.. this pretty hot 29 30 y.o. chick comes and sits near me, start talking, got her number and met her for lunch the next day.

The chick was -to me- very hot. White teeth, great skin, conservatively dressed but very expensively.. stylish, cracking body.

She had a very sexy vibe with all her mannerisms and pouts and back arches but she was always dropping destinations like Las Vegas, Moscow, LA with a whinge about "I didn't like this..!' "I didn't like that!"

Back to work, get home that night and she's added me on FB. Standard procedure - didn't accept.

That weekend was the Cannes Film Festival and she was gonna be there so I rang her on the Sunday to set up day 2 and left a voice mail in French to try and impress her.

She rings back later that night, hammered, from some bar all gushing with warmth .. keeps asking, "are you the guy from the airport??!"
"No, I'm Bienvenuto.."
"Whoo??"
"Bien-ven-uto! We had Lunch on Wednesday!"
"But I thought... I thought that you were the guy from Nice airport!!"
"Sorry to let you down.."
"But you left a message in French!"
"That I did.."
"But ... you're not him??"
"No.."
"Okay I have to go now.."
"Have a nice life."

Went to the computer and accepted her friend request and am not ashamed to say that much viewing pleasure was had from her racy pictures in various bikinis at various swimming pools around the world and also bending over for the camera on various super yachts.

Kept appearing on my newsfeed. Seemed she had a tall blond Italian husband who was similar in appearance to me. She was from Malta.Had a young 8 yr old boy back in Malta who was ""everything"" to her.

So she posts frequently in 4 different guises.
1. Her and Italian husband tagged having romantic dinners in Capri, Mykonos, Ibiza etc.
2. Mystery cameramen taking risqué shots of her around swimming pools, in hotel rooms, stepping out of the shower in various 5 star residences in Dubai, Singapore, Moscow, LA etc.
3. Posts describing how this hot guy just sat next to her on the bus and asked for her number and asked her out... "So my question is? Do I jump on this bus, or wait for another better one to come along?" Italian Husband advises her in the comments to "go for it!"
4. Almost daily fucking posts about how someone pushed her son in the playground, took his lunch off him on the school bus, shouted at him in class.. every fucking day. Her boy is her world! She is seething! So angry! My child is everything to me!
(so go back to Malta and spend some fucking time with the boy..)

She told me she was an auditor.

One night my buddies and I were trying to find The Most Expensive Hooker in London when we stumbled on her profile. Surprise, sur-fucking-prise..

These days she is still on my newsfeed although the interest-level and frequency of what she posts has plummeted. She is now a "Big Time DJ" and all pics of her in clubs and standing over the decks have been taken with a blurred camera and filtered to an inch of that camera processors life.

The Wall has Hit ... Hard.

FB used to be so educational, these days its just SJW crap.

In my defence our sexless flirtation (if one could even call it that) lasted all of 6 days.

OP - you come across like someone who doesn't even know that he doesn't know.

Agree with OTR that the IRT is strong here.

Don't understand those advising on the rights and wrongs of giving 'closure'.

In other news, Theon Greyjoy doesn't know how to escalate with Myranda.. sure she's banging his captor Ramsay who is currently flaying him alive and cutting off his Johnson but..
Theon has secretly created a dope IG account and has negged Miranda several times and waited a few days before answering some messages..

So..

Who is playing who?

[Off The Reservation]

(04-26-2019 09:41 AM)Bienvenuto Wrote:  

(04-21-2019 09:16 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  

I guess you Sir should have taken her to Dubai like she asked. Just think of it from her perspective, here you are a fine young Pakistani guy Sir with the lustiest chick from Tashkent who is willing to give up her lifestyle for you Sir and you don't even take her where she wants to go Sir.

Sometimes art can be helpful we have quite a bit here on RVF dedicated to your situation Sir. I hope it soothes the pain of losing that damp, pasty white skin you only touched on the arm a few times. At least you did Sir! It is better to have loved a little in your thoughts and in your palm than not to have loved at all !!!

Here's a white version of this just to show that we are all part of one world facing the same thots.. No Borders.

I was working in West London in property, in a noodle bar on lunch.. this pretty hot 29 30 y.o. chick comes and sits near me, start talking, got her number and met her for lunch the next day.

The chick was -to me- very hot. White teeth, great skin, conservatively dressed but very expensively.. stylish, cracking body.

She had a very sexy vibe with all her mannerisms and pouts and back arches but she was always dropping destinations like Las Vegas, Moscow, LA with a whinge about "I didn't like this..!' "I didn't like that!"

Back to work, get home that night and she's added me on FB. Standard procedure - didn't accept.

That weekend was the Cannes Film Festival and she was gonna be there so I rang her on the Sunday to set up day 2 and left a voice mail in French to try and impress her.

She rings back later that night, hammered, from some bar all gushing with warmth .. keeps asking, "are you the guy from the airport??!"
"No, I'm Bienvenuto.."
"Whoo??"
"Bien-ven-uto! We had Lunch on Wednesday!"
"But I thought... I thought that you were the guy from Nice airport!!"
"Sorry to let you down.."
"But you left a message in French!"
"That I did.."
"But ... you're not him??"
"No.."
"Okay I have to go now.."
"Have a nice life."

Went to the computer and accepted her friend request and am not ashamed to say that much viewing pleasure was had from her racy pictures in various bikinis at various swimming pools around the world and also bending over for the camera on various super yachts.

Kept appearing on my newsfeed. Seemed she had a tall blond Italian husband who was similar in appearance to me. She was from Malta.Had a young 8 yr old boy back in Malta who was ""everything"" to her.

So she posts frequently in 4 different guises.
1. Her and Italian husband tagged having romantic dinners in Capri, Mykonos, Ibiza etc.
2. Mystery cameramen taking risqué shots of her around swimming pools, in hotel rooms, stepping out of the shower in various 5 star residences in Dubai, Singapore, Moscow, LA etc.
3. Posts describing how this hot guy just sat next to her on the bus and asked for her number and asked her out... "So my question is? Do I jump on this bus, or wait for another better one to come along?" Italian Husband advises her in the comments to "go for it!"
4. Almost daily fucking posts about how someone pushed her son in the playground, took his lunch off him on the school bus, shouted at him in class.. every fucking day. Her boy is her world! She is seething! So angry! My child is everything to me!
(so go back to Malta and spend some fucking time with the boy..)

She told me she was an auditor.

One night my buddies and I were trying to find The Most Expensive Hooker in London when we stumbled on her profile. Surprise, sur-fucking-prise..

These days she is still on my newsfeed although the interest-level and frequency of what she posts has plummeted. She is now a "Big Time DJ" and all pics of her in clubs and standing over the decks have been taken with a blurred camera and filtered to an inch of that camera processors life.

The Wall has Hit ... Hard.

FB used to be so educational, these days its just SJW crap.

In my defence our sexless flirtation (if one could even call it that) lasted all of 6 days.

OP - you come across like someone who doesn't even know that he doesn't know.

Agree with OTR that the IRT is strong here.

Don't understand those advising on the rights and wrongs of giving 'closure'.

In other news, Theon Greyjoy doesn't know how to escalate with Myranda.. sure she's banging his captor Ramsay who is currently flaying him alive and cutting off his Johnson but..
Theon has secretly created a dope IG account and has negged Miranda several times and waited a few days before answering some messages..

So..

Who is playing who?

Great f'ing story. Love the part about the kid who means the world to her. Does Maltese have mean words for a Son of Whore? I hope he isn't teased too much.