[LEMONed IScream]

Is this all the wisdom the Elders have to bestow upon us? Damn them.

We know a lot more about CONQUERING it.

(04-15-2019 02:28 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 01:57 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  

MONUMENTS CLAIM TERRITORY!

If you lose territory, you do not only lose thousands, you lose EVERYTHING, YOU CEASE TO EXIST!

You either die or you live in chains. There are "scores" of old cathedrals and we have MILLIONS of unnecessary humans in our countries.

Which would I sacrifice first? The death of thousands vs the death of a nation...

This Boomerposting, man... It's aggravating.

Obviously you never knew anyone killed in an attack or disaster.

But if there's anyone who would know about losing territory, it would be a Portuguese.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

The most famous significant religious monument in all of Europe, after successfully standing for 1000 years and surviving a number of occupations and two World Wars, just happens to catch a massive fire like this during Easter, after a series of churches already having burned down by diversity? And the rapid firefighting response in a rich 1st world city somehow happens to fail exactly at that moment?

I call BS.

[Once Was Not]

(04-15-2019 02:29 PM)kosko Wrote:  

This seems very suspicious, especially as holy week is upon us for Easter.

In regards to the firefighters... Only theory I may have is that due to the age of Notre Dame it isn't that easy to just dump thousands of pounds of water on the structure. These classic structures are robust but delicate at the same time and it may be that attacking that fire with traditional volumes of water may weaken certain points in the structure leading to more deep level damage.

Correct, that is the explanation for no airborne water. But why it took them two hours to get there? Rush hour. Not sure I'm 100% buying that part.

[mikado]

They are not using Canadairs because it risks destroying the remaining stuff inside ( including the paints).

So far no terrorism indications.

Voilà. Will keep you informed about the french news.

[LEMONed IScream]

During his 1969 landmark series Civilisation, Kenneth Clark mused: “What is civilisation? I don’t know. I can’t define it in abstract terms, yet. But I think I can recognise it when I see it.” Turning to Notre Dame, he then added: “And I’m looking at it now.”

[Luvianka]

This is no accident. This is a message from the World Elites.
Shit is about to hit the fan worlwide.
Buck up your belts, guys, bumpy road ahead.

[Horus]

(04-15-2019 02:38 PM)mikado Wrote:  

So far no terrorism indications.

I guess it's equally likely that one of the renovation workers flicked a cigarette butt in the direction of a vat of kerosine they keep in the corner to fuel the church lamps.

[mikado]

Maybe. Nothing has filtered yet. Only that no human casualties yet.

[Dusty]

(04-15-2019 02:38 PM)mikado Wrote:  

They are not using Canadairs because it risks destroying the remaining stuff inside ( including the paints).

So far no terrorism indications.

Voilà. Will keep you informed about the french news.

[rockoman]

If the French authorities did already have indications that it was a terrorist act, then would they be telling us that at this point?

[aeroektar]

The most disgusting part of all this is seeing it burn while people watch and do nothing. It's surreal. A symbol of reaching the lowest low.

[Hypno]

They are already spinning that this was a restoration accident. Wikipedia citing cnn.

[Horus]

(04-15-2019 02:53 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  

The most disgusting part of all this is seeing it burn while people watch and do nothing. It's surreal. A symbol of reaching the lowest low.

What do you expect them to do? What would you do? Pee on it?

[Thrill Jackson]

I am speechless. Not catholic but I have family that is. My grandmother is old and I believe sharing this news would break her heart. Better me then somebody random person on the news station.

[DeadlyReed]

Someone remarked that Notre Dame burning was a terrible sign of the times, I think all of the raping at Cologne and the resultant births was a far more significant one.

[The Stronger Sex]

For fuck's sake, the levels of tinfoil silliness reaching an all-time high. If you lot spent less time on Tinder you would know fires during renovations of ancient buildings with wood framework are not unusual, unfortunately, due to sparks from welding, short circuits, etc. You don't even need renovation works. Some more or less recent examples: Windsor Castle, the Opera Theatre in Venice, the Liceu Theatre in Barcelona or the Leon Cathedral.

It's like reading deluded feminists but in reverse.

[jordypip23]

(04-15-2019 02:52 PM)rockoman Wrote:  

If the French authorities did already have indications that it was a terrorist act, then would they be telling us that at this point?

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[aeroektar]

(04-15-2019 02:54 PM)Horus Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 02:53 PM)aeroektar Wrote:  

The most disgusting part of all this is seeing it burn while people watch and do nothing. It's surreal. A symbol of reaching the lowest low.

What do you expect them to do? What would you do? Pee on it?

Yes, I'd pull out my giant cannon of a cock and pee all over it.

[Syberpunk]

Churches being burned down in France and wider Europe is not a widely reported narrative in MSM, its mid paper-backpage stuff. To people, this will be the first large story of its kind.

They can of course say its renovation work that caused this.

[Hypno]

In the US firefighters ran up the stairs of an 80 story burning bldg.

Peeing on it would be more than they are doing now

[The Stronger Sex]

(04-15-2019 03:05 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

In the US firefighters ran up the stairs of an 80 story burning bldg.

Peeing on it would be more than they are doing now

There are no stairs to run up. And the damage conventional firefighting would do to the interior would be worse than the fire.

[aeroektar]

(04-15-2019 03:06 PM)The Stronger Sex Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 03:05 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

In the US firefighters ran up the stairs of an 80 story burning bldg.

Peeing on it would be more than they are doing now

There are no stairs to run up. And the damage conventional firefighting would do to the interior would be worse than the fire.

You can dry things off and glue them back together, what the fuck do you do with charred remains?

[Hypno]

The interior is largely hollow.

Not fighting the fire is going to be seen as a mistake in retrospect

The structure of the building was not a secret. Surely there was a fire suppression plan more robust than surrender.

[Latan]

Delete.
Waiting for further evidences before responding.

[trickster]

(04-15-2019 01:39 PM)Horus Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 01:32 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 01:20 PM)Horus Wrote:  

(04-15-2019 01:06 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

This is like 9/11.

It's worse.

No it's not. Nobody's died.

I few thousand lives and a modern symbol of capitalism is worth less than a symbol of cultural and spiritual cohesion which has survived almost a thousand years.

The cultural-spiritual loss is huge no doubt. But 9/11 led to the Iraq War, which has been a two decade clusterfck that is still ongoing. The lives lost and damaged and the billions of dollars wasted as a result of 9-11 might, just might outweigh today's terrible loss.