[Smitty]

I almost hate to ask this question, but looking to upgrade. Been using a Droid Incredible and it does everything I need/want. Thinking of just upgrading to Droid Incredible 2 (my current phone is fucked up, so I have to upgrade). Use Google products (email, docs, etc) so the integration is nice and the gps fucking rocks. Use it for a little web surfing, email, and that's about it.

Want to give iphone a fair shot. Any strong opinions one way or the other? Droid Bionic seems to be hype -- side by side not a whole lot better than Incredible 2 for basic usage I described above.

[amistod]

I am going to try to get the 4s on Friday. IMHO a Droid isn't worth it. The new Siri looks amazing.

[Chad Daring]

I prefer Droid on principle. The OS and the market are not open source. Apple actively shuts down independent apps that do what one of their paid apps does.

[Vicious]

Itunes makes me want to cut myself.

The ability to root an android phone and use it as a wi-fi connection for my laptop is worth the price alone.

[CupCake]

I've had an iPhone for a while and they're pretty nice (except when you have a 3G and upgraded to iOS 4.0 and effectively disable the advanced features!).

I think Apple makes the best interfaces and has the best customer service. The Appstore and iTunes can't be beat and the resolution on the new iPhones is phenomenal. Once you have one, you'll be sold.

I'm trying to get the 4S myself.

[MiXX]

(10-12-2011 08:27 AM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Apple actively shuts down independent apps that do what one of their paid apps does.

That's why you jailbreak your phone man...so you are free of any and all restrictions apple decides to enforce!

Mixx

[MiXX]

(10-12-2011 09:09 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

The ability to root an android phone and use it as a wi-fi connection for my laptop is worth the price alone.

Ummmm....you can unlock root (aka Jailbreak), and do this wifi tethering with an iphone way before you could with an android!

The wifi tethering app is called "MyWi" on Cydia store. I use it whenever I have shitty hotel internet.

Mixx

[Chad Daring]

(10-12-2011 11:28 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 08:27 AM)Chad Daring Wrote:  

Apple actively shuts down independent apps that do what one of their paid apps does.

That's why you jailbreak your phone man...so you are free of any and all restrictions apple decides to enforce!

Mixx

The app store is still.heavily restricted though. I've got a thing against apple as is so I'm admittedly biased

[Vicious]

(10-12-2011 11:30 AM)MiXX Wrote:  

(10-12-2011 09:09 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

The ability to root an android phone and use it as a wi-fi connection for my laptop is worth the price alone.

Ummmm....you can unlock root (aka Jailbreak), and do this wifi tethering with an iphone way before you could with an android!

The wifi tethering app is called "MyWi" on Cydia store. I use it whenever I have shitty hotel internet.

Rooting and jailbreaking are not the same thing. Jailbreaking basically just allows you to download apps that are not approved by Apple. It also voids warranty. In general Jailbreaking does not give near as much control of a phone as open sourced rooting.

[MiXX]

(10-13-2011 10:38 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Rooting and jailbreaking are not the same thing. Jailbreaking basically just allows you to download apps that are not approved by Apple. It also voids warranty. In general Jailbreaking does not give near as much control of a phone as open sourced rooting.

Sorry, but you are incorrect.

When you Jailbreak your iphone, you are resetting the factory ROOT account password to Alpine"XXX", the, you can reset to one of your choice. You become root itself, not a sudo root user.

Once you have the root password, you can do whatever the hell you want to your OS.

As far as voiding the warranty goes, I got news for you, that warranty is only good for 1 year (Source: Apple support) - after that, your Jail-broken or Not iphone is on your own dime. If you purchased your Iphone 4 in Oct. 2010 or before - who cares if your Iphone has a Jailbreak today. Warranty expired.


Mixx

[MiXX]

(10-13-2011 10:38 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Rooting and jailbreaking are not the same thing. Jailbreaking basically just allows you to download apps that are not approved by Apple. It also voids warranty. In general Jailbreaking does not give near as much control of a phone as open sourced rooting.

Sorry, but you are incorrect.

When you Jailbreak your iphone, you are resetting the factory ROOT account password to Alpine"XXX", the, you can reset to one of your choice. You become root itself, not a sudo root user.

Once you have the root password, you can do whatever the hell you want to your OS, including, but not limited to downloading apps from Cidya or designing your own OS customizations.


This is what my Jail-broken Iphone looks like with my own customizations and RSS feed to my home screen:

As far as voiding the warranty goes, I got news for you, that warranty is only good for 1 year (Source: Apple support) - after that, your Jail-broken or Not iphone is on your own dime. If you purchased your Iphone 4 in Oct. 2010 or before - who cares if your Iphone has a Jailbreak today. Warranty expired.

Personally, the freedom I have to do whatever I want on my Iphone 4 (after I reset the root account) is priceless! I can do so many things that even the new Iphone 4S cannot do yet! But of course, Apple does not like that, but I don't care - it's my iphone.


Mixx

[Vicious]

(10-13-2011 12:46 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

When you Jailbreak your iphone, you are resetting the factory ROOT account password to Alpine"XXX", the, you can reset to one of your choice. You become root itself, not a sudo root user.

Once you have the root password, you can do whatever the hell you want to your OS, including, but not limited to downloading apps from Cidya or designing your own OS customizations.

I'd like to quote you "Sorry, but you are incorrect." You still can't write to protected parts of the OS. You can use apps that superimpose themselves on the OS, changing backgrounds for example (something that is natively available for android). These are finer points anyhow since a power user is far more likely to appreciate in android the hardware options - choosing your own battery, storage and processor + similar.

I'm aware that the Iphone warranty is 1 year. Not really sure what your point is. I guess it matters if you keep your phone for longer than a year. Personally I don't since 1 year is an eternity for a smartphone.

[amistod]

just picked up the 4s today. SO sick