[Dusty]

[url=https://twitter.com/johnnys_eye/status/1105531290500120576?s=21][/url]

[DarkTriad]

(03-12-2019 06:40 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

You think because some of these celebs were against Trump that this scandal is going to work in Trump's favor?

Au contraire. It's a lot bigger than a couple of virtue-signalling Hollywood women. This is huge.

It rips the mask off of "meritocracy," and all of the striving middle/upper-middle class are going to be outraged. There were hedge fund guys, big-firm lawyers and various other rich bastards in this.

People are going to look at this and think: these fuckers are like the Trumps and Kushners.

This should be in Politics, because it's going to play out in egalitarian politics.

I feel obligated to post this here. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/...ritocracy/

"How corrupt are Ivy League admissions"

[jeffreyjerpp]

(03-13-2019 07:30 PM)Canopus Wrote:  

By the way, haven't the media, feminists, and every social justice whacko out there spent the last decade or so screeching that American university campuses are rape factories where the nation's unsuspecting, nubile daughters are lured to Bacchanalian parties, plied with (GASP) alcohol, and assaulted by nefarious fraternity dudebros such as Jock McKavanaugh and Chad Magahat?

So why are rich celebrities bribing their way and breaking the law to send their poor, innocent daughters to these wretched hives of scum and toxic masculinity?

Hahaha....I had not even thought of that aspect of this.

"How much would you pay to keep your daughter from the lusty ravages of patriarchal frat bros?"

"Negative $500,000."

"Well that's....uh...what?"

[SaintLaurentJake]

(03-12-2019 11:09 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 06:40 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

You think because some of these celebs were against Trump that this scandal is going to work in Trump's favor?

Au contraire. It's a lot bigger than a couple of virtue-signalling Hollywood women. This is huge.

It rips the mask off of "meritocracy," and all of the striving middle/upper-middle class are going to be outraged. There were hedge fund guys, big-firm lawyers and various other rich bastards in this.

People are going to look at this and think: these fuckers are like the Trumps and Kushners.

This should be in Politics, because it's going to play out in egalitarian politics.

Not disagreeing with you, but I have to ask: Does anybody in the USA believe in meritocracy anymore?

Meritocracy? No, nepotism for the win!

[BelyyTigr]

(03-12-2019 03:09 PM)david.garrett84 Wrote:  



http://fortune.com/2019/03/12/loughlin-h...dmissions/

Quote:

Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin Are Among 40 Celebs, CEOs Arrested in a College Admissions Cheating Scandal

A who’s who of famous names, from actresses to CEOs [READ: DEMOCRATIC DONORS], have been arrested as part of a national college admissions cheating scam, according to court records unsealed in Boston Tuesday.

Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among the more than 40 people arrested for paying bribes to get their children into elite schools, including Georgetown, Stanford, UCLA, and Yale.

The scam said prosecutors, arranged for children to be recruited as athletes, regardless of their athletic abilities. Academic officials, including the former women’s soccer coach at Yale University, are also facing charges.

“Beginning in or about 2011, and continuing through the present, the defendants—principally individuals whose high-school age children were applying to college—conspired with others to use bribery and other forms of fraud to facilitate their children’s admission to colleges and universities in the District of Massachusetts and elsewhere, including Yale University, Stanford University, the University of Texas, the University of Southern California, and the University of Southern California-Los Angeles,” an affidavit supporting the indictment said.

Also named in the indictment are William E. McGlashan Jr., founder and managing partner of TPG Growth, a Silicon Valley investment fund, wine baron Agustin Huneeus, Robert Zangrillo, CEO of venture firm Dragon Global, Gordon Caplan, co-chairman of the notable law firm Willkie, Farr & Gallagher, Elisabeth Kimmel, owner of Midwest Television and a board member at Ballast Point Brewing and former Pimco CEO Doug Hodge.

The bribes reportedly went as high as $6 million. The children, generally, did not realize their admission was due to a bribe.

Huffman, who starred on TV’s Desperate Housewives and her spouse, actor William H. Macy, allegedly “made a purported charitable contribution of $15,000…to participate in the college entrance exam cheating scheme on behalf of her eldest daughter. Huffman later made arrangements to pursue the scheme a second time, for her younger daughter, before deciding not to do so.”

Loughlin, who most recently starred on the Netflix’s comedy Fuller House, and her husband are accused of agreeing to pay $500,000 in bribe to have their daughters recruited to the USC crew team, even though they had not previously participated in crew sports.

“The charges brought forth today are troubling and should be a concern for all of higher education,” the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) said in a statement Tuesday. “We are looking into these allegations to determine the extent to which NCAA rules may have been violated.”

Apparently some of these people tried to write off the bribes for tax deductions. Oh Lord, thank you.

LOL. I remember Felicity Huffman huffing and puffing about how she was joining the Women’s March.

It’s so great she’s marching for the little people while buying off college officials to jump ahead of those same little people!

Quote:

”I'm going to the Million Women March in DC with my two daughters, and my sister and her daughter and their two grandchildren,” Ms Huffman said.

"I feel that the election was somewhat of a feminist issue. I feel like the best of us was bested by not the best of them."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...28616.html

Its good to see these scumbags have been charged. But lets be honest, this is the tip OF THE TIP of the iceberg. Ivy League colleges are open about it with their bs talk of "legacy students" ie dim people with parents who went to the same Ivy League uni. It seems the main crime of these scumbags is they tried to cover up the bribes. Seems a lot of em were libturds, so I'm pleased about that. But justice without consistency is still no justice at all.

Britain is actually far worse. 1% of high schools (private ones charging around 1.5 the national average wage) per annum, account for a huge proportion of so called "elite university" intake. Infact private high schools are about 6% of British kids, yet HALF of all Oxford and Cambridge kids. Many of these schools are connected to the admissions exam staff at Oxford and Cambridge. And frankly the whole admission system is a sham. How many British parents/British uni staff have ever been charged? ABSOLUTELY ZERO!!

So much in politics, employment, the "free market" and Western life is an illusion.

[markygras]

Some people keep equating what the accused did with the more common legacy/donor method of influencing admissions. They are two different things - Laughlin, Huffman, etc are being accused of committing bribery in order to perpetuate fraud.

Two different scenarios:

1) Rich family donates a large amount of $ to a school, the school then lets their child in. This is normal among the upper-class and very common.

2) Rich family pay a central figure a large amount of money to facilitate:
- fake sports stats
- fake test scores
- fake extracurricular involvement
- bribe coaches to select the child for a scholarship despite not being involved in the related sport


I'm unaware of scenario 1 being illegal in any way. Most of the schools are private, and therefore private businesses. (not sure if UT could be considered as having a different level of standards).

Scenario 2 is the fabrication of false data and "under the table" payments directly to people at the school (which they probably weren't taxed on).

[Sp5]

(03-12-2019 11:09 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 06:40 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

You think because some of these celebs were against Trump that this scandal is going to work in Trump's favor?

Au contraire. It's a lot bigger than a couple of virtue-signalling Hollywood women. This is huge.

It rips the mask off of "meritocracy," and all of the striving middle/upper-middle class are going to be outraged. There were hedge fund guys, big-firm lawyers and various other rich bastards in this.

People are going to look at this and think: these fuckers are like the Trumps and Kushners.

This should be in Politics, because it's going to play out in egalitarian politics.

Not disagreeing with you, but I have to ask: Does anybody in the USA believe in meritocracy anymore?

Nobody really believed in it, but the striving middle/upper-middle class thought they had the system wired through their SAT test prep and huge mortgages in suburbs with "good" schools. This makes them chumps. Now the indictments have led to a flood of stories detailing how it's been even more corrupt all along.

It's already known that Kushner's corrupt old man bought Jared a seat at Harvard, and that old man Trump bought Donald a seat at Wharton.

Years ago I had a case, it came out in discovery that a kid who was a "legacy" and went to an expensive private school got into Harvard with SATs less than 1200 and a B average. Thousands of cases like that.

Having sailing team scholarships is worse than affirmative action, but in reality with affirmative action as now applied I guess that legacy African-Americans (descendants of slaves) are getting screwed as much as working-class whites and Asians.

The new "diversity" justification for race-based admissions probably admit more higher class mixed-race like Obama, or children of African, West Indian, or Latin American immigrant professionals than kids from the ghetto. That's my impression from reading the Harvard Crimson, Yale Daily News etc once in awhile. More names like Ogheneme, Acheampong, or Kipchongwe than Jackson or Johnson.

[TravelerKai]

(03-14-2019 07:04 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 11:09 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 06:40 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

You think because some of these celebs were against Trump that this scandal is going to work in Trump's favor?

Au contraire. It's a lot bigger than a couple of virtue-signalling Hollywood women. This is huge.

It rips the mask off of "meritocracy," and all of the striving middle/upper-middle class are going to be outraged. There were hedge fund guys, big-firm lawyers and various other rich bastards in this.

People are going to look at this and think: these fuckers are like the Trumps and Kushners.

This should be in Politics, because it's going to play out in egalitarian politics.

Not disagreeing with you, but I have to ask: Does anybody in the USA believe in meritocracy anymore?

Nobody really believed in it, but the striving middle/upper-middle class thought they had the system wired through their SAT test prep and huge mortgages in suburbs with "good" schools. This makes them chumps. Now the indictments have led to a flood of stories detailing how it's been even more corrupt all along.

It's already known that Kushner's corrupt old man bought Jared a seat at Harvard, and that old man Trump bought Donald a seat at Wharton.

Years ago I had a case, it came out in discovery that a kid who was a "legacy" and went to an expensive private school got into Harvard with SATs less than 1200 and a B average. Thousands of cases like that.

Having sailing team scholarships is worse than affirmative action, but in reality with affirmative action as now applied I guess that legacy African-Americans (descendants of slaves) are getting screwed as much as working-class whites and Asians.

The new "diversity" justification for race-based admissions probably admit more higher class mixed-race like Obama, or children of African, West Indian, or Latin American immigrant professionals than kids from the ghetto. That's my impression from reading the Harvard Crimson, Yale Daily News etc once in awhile. More names like Ogheneme, Acheampong, or Kipchongwe than Jackson or Johnson.

This part is pure fire. I think Excelsior once mentioned something similar before.

Black Democrats/Liberals scream and holler about reparations, affirmative action, etc. and continue to vote for people that support this junk, and have no idea they are being legitimately screwed over by the legion of Nigerians and others that do not identify as Black, because they are actually African or something else with a different color passport to prove it. Probably more than 60% of Black Americans do not even have a passport.

How the fuck does legacy "Black America" close the gap with "whites" in America with Affirmative Action, if the schools and employers instead find people that are technically dark skinned but never had a great grandparent that was a slave or a sharecropper? If you never could put that clause in a law or a policy, it was ripe for exploitation.

It's called getting replaced.

Same thing with being "pro open borders". Hispanics already make black vote less powerful or needed. Do you really want more far left socialist leaning types from Central and South America? They whine about white people keeping blacks out of jobs and opportunities. Have they any clue what happens in an 65%+ environment of Hispanics? For those of you that live in vastly white areas of America, the cliff notes is that they basically hire and work with their own kind or anyone that likes speaking Spanish. Shocking, yes I know.

[CaptainCup]

This story was being discussed this morning on WPLJ, a radio station in the New York Metro area. One of the DJ’s, Todd Pettengill, criticized college as “indoctrination” and suggested that trade school was a better alternative. I was actually surprised to hear this coming from a radio station in such a blue region.

It was very small, but I see this as a positive sign. If the lid doesn’t get blown off higher education, then at least maybe middle class parents will second guess sending their kids to college. Or, perhaps there will be declining enrollment for the Humanities and Social Sciences. “No, Jane, we are not blowing our retirement savings for you to major in Gender Studies.”

I’ve heard the notion of universities as indoctrination camps, but this is mostly from right-leaning news - Tucker Carlson is the most “mainstream” of them. This radio station reaches a wider population in a mostly blue region.

[Bienvenuto]

Tucker has been going on about this.

Its a globalist Oligarchy of growing powers and censorship and all its crusades and talking points are to shore up its privilege and position.

They are living in a glass bottomed boat and tossing woke sympathies down to the poor struggling plankton.

Hollywood dreams up films like Elysium and BladeRunner 20149 because it is the only future they can foresee, because they are busy creating it and basking in it already (*with the obligatory evangelical guilt - see Ellen Page talking about Jussie Smollett.)

[TigerMandingo]

(03-14-2019 08:06 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Have they any clue what happens in an 65%+ environment of Hispanics? For those of you that live in vastly white areas of America, the cliff notes is that they basically hire and work with their own kind or anyone that likes speaking Spanish. Shocking, yes I know.

This right here is 100% truth. I worked as a line cook in a fine-dining restaurant for many years, and I was one of the handful of white guys in the kitchen, with the rest being from Guatemala, Ecuador, Mexico, and a few Colombians as well. Overall good guys, great work ethic, but I'd be lying if I said they weren't arrogant little shits who refused to speak one word of English and tried to recruit more of their amigos to work for us. It didn't help that the sous chef was from El Salvador. I was on good terms with him and we joked around a lot, but at one point he said to me "we taking over", facetiously but still you get the point. To this day I don't really know if those guys had papers or they used fake SSNs to get the job, because when I say they didn't speak a word of English I mean not ONE WORD.

If I immigrate to a country where I don't speak the native language, I like to think that I'd be a little more humble and get to know the culture a bit. Not the case with Latinos. I've noticed that they are super cocky, know that they're outbreeding and outcompeting everyone here and they're proud of it.

[IveBeenFramed]

Let The Class Action Lawsuits Start Flying!!!

https://www.courthousenews.com/students-...bery-case/

Quote:

(CN) – Students filed a federal class action in California Wednesday against several universities and entities allegedly involved in the massive college admissions scandal that led to the arrest of 50 people, including actresses, business executives and coaches.

Federal prosecutors said Tuesday that a nationwide college admissions bribery scheme carried out by Rick Singer and the Edge College & Career Network offered parents the option of faking learning disabilities to give their children more time to take the SAT and ACT college-entrance exams and another option that bribed college coaches to designate the students as athletes to lower the academic threshold for admission.

Two Stanford students said in the lawsuit that qualified students paid college admission fees without realizing that “unqualified students were slipping in through the back door of the admissions process by committing fraud, bribery, cheating, and dishonesty.”

The lawsuit names Stanford University, the University of Southern California, UCLA, the University of San Diego, the University of Texas at Austin, Wake Forest University, Yale University and Georgetown University as defendants.

Plaintiff Erica Olsen said in the complaint that she had “stellar” standardized test scores and athletic talent. She applied to Yale and paid an application fee of approximately $80, only to be rejected by the university.

“Had she known that the system at Yale University was warped and rigged by fraud, she would not have spent the money to apply to the school,” the lawsuit states. “She also did not receive what she paid for—a fair admissions consideration process.”

Olsen also claims that since Stanford is linked to the scandal, her degree might not go as far.

“Her degree is now not worth as much as it was before, because prospective employers may now question whether she was admitted to the university on her own merits, versus having parents who were willing to bribe school officials,” the lawsuit states.

The students claim that the schools failed to properly oversee their admissions process and ensure that it was fair to all students.

[Off The Reservation]

This kind of story shows the real reason behind establishment fear of Trump. There are vast numbers of people in the USA who make money or have positions due to corruption and T is not a part of that cesspool.

[Captainstabbin]

Ben Shapiro had a good piece about this:

Quote:

The answer is obvious: no, it wouldn’t. Colleges aren’t about training kids for the real world, or teaching them significant modes of thinking, or examining timeless truths. Universities aren’t about skill sets, either – at least in the humanities. They’re about two things: credentialism and social connections.

Quote:

After I was admitted to Harvard Law School, I attended orientation. Our 500-strong class was gathered in Memorial Hall, in historic Sanders Theater, where then-Dean Elena Kagan (now Supreme Court Justice) spoke to us. She informed us that the competition was over – we were in! No need to worry about the stuff we’d seen in The Paper Chase – we were all going to leave with degrees and jobs. Not just that – as graduates of Harvard Law, we were destined to rule the universe. She informed us of how many alumni were in the Senate, how many in Congress, how many on the Supreme Court. The battle was over upon our acceptance to the institution.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44571/fam...en-shapiro

I bet the Obamas weren't involved at all...

Quote:

Obama Family Tennis Coach Charged in College Bribery Case

Obama’s tennis coach, the Obama family tennis coach was among those charged in the college admissions scheme. Did you know this? (interruption) You didn’t know that. “The Obama family,” which was famous for having no money, like the Clintons were famous for having no money. “The Obama family’s personal tennis coach was among the dozens of people charged [yesterday] in a sweeping college admissions bribery scheme. Gordon Ernst — who once taught former first lady Michelle Obama and her daughters, Malia and Sasha — was accused of conspiracy to commit racketeering when he was the tennis coach at Georgetown University.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/...bery-case/

[Savonarola]

(03-14-2019 08:06 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

(03-14-2019 07:04 AM)Sp5 Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 11:09 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(03-12-2019 06:40 PM)Sp5 Wrote:  

You think because some of these celebs were against Trump that this scandal is going to work in Trump's favor?

Au contraire. It's a lot bigger than a couple of virtue-signalling Hollywood women. This is huge.

It rips the mask off of "meritocracy," and all of the striving middle/upper-middle class are going to be outraged. There were hedge fund guys, big-firm lawyers and various other rich bastards in this.

People are going to look at this and think: these fuckers are like the Trumps and Kushners.

This should be in Politics, because it's going to play out in egalitarian politics.

Not disagreeing with you, but I have to ask: Does anybody in the USA believe in meritocracy anymore?

Nobody really believed in it, but the striving middle/upper-middle class thought they had the system wired through their SAT test prep and huge mortgages in suburbs with "good" schools. This makes them chumps. Now the indictments have led to a flood of stories detailing how it's been even more corrupt all along.

It's already known that Kushner's corrupt old man bought Jared a seat at Harvard, and that old man Trump bought Donald a seat at Wharton.

Years ago I had a case, it came out in discovery that a kid who was a "legacy" and went to an expensive private school got into Harvard with SATs less than 1200 and a B average. Thousands of cases like that.

Having sailing team scholarships is worse than affirmative action, but in reality with affirmative action as now applied I guess that legacy African-Americans (descendants of slaves) are getting screwed as much as working-class whites and Asians.

The new "diversity" justification for race-based admissions probably admit more higher class mixed-race like Obama, or children of African, West Indian, or Latin American immigrant professionals than kids from the ghetto. That's my impression from reading the Harvard Crimson, Yale Daily News etc once in awhile. More names like Ogheneme, Acheampong, or Kipchongwe than Jackson or Johnson.

This part is pure fire. I think Excelsior once mentioned something similar before.

Black Democrats/Liberals scream and holler about reparations, affirmative action, etc. and continue to vote for people that support this junk, and have no idea they are being legitimately screwed over by the legion of Nigerians and others that do not identify as Black, because they are actually African or something else with a different color passport to prove it. Probably more than 60% of Black Americans do not even have a passport.

How the fuck does legacy "Black America" close the gap with "whites" in America with Affirmative Action, if the schools and employers instead find people that are technically dark skinned but never had a great grandparent that was a slave or a sharecropper? If you never could put that clause in a law or a policy, it was ripe for exploitation.

It's called getting replaced.

Same thing with being "pro open borders". Hispanics already make black vote less powerful or needed. Do you really want more far left socialist leaning types from Central and South America? They whine about white people keeping blacks out of jobs and opportunities. Have they any clue what happens in an 65%+ environment of Hispanics? For those of you that live in vastly white areas of America, the cliff notes is that they basically hire and work with their own kind or anyone that likes speaking Spanish. Shocking, yes I know.

I have pointed out for years the significance of America's first black president having ZERO slave ancestors. It wasn't an accident that he was able to succeed so quickly.

[Savonarola]

A QUICK HISTORY

From 1900 to 1950, Ivy League admissions were even more corrupt than this.
To get in, you simply had to be enrolled at the right New England prep school.
In the spring of your senior year, your headmaster placed a phone call if he thought you were "proper" material (meaning high class).
One phone call, and you got in.
No entrance exams. Very little concern with grades.
In fact, once you were there, at Princeton or Yale or whatever, your average grade was a C.
Very few students spent much time studying. There was no reason. Your future was already rubber-stamped.

WHAT CHANGED?
MERITOCRACY.
From 1950 to about 2000, Ivy League admissions became totally merit-based.
The old prep school club drowned (good riddance, IMO) in a sea of applications from really intelligent kids from across the nation.
They were all waving these things called SAT scores, which were and are a standardized way to compare these unknown students from unknown schools to one another.
None of them had gone to the "right" East Coast prep schools.
Applications skyrocketed; acceptance rates took a nose dive.
Asians in particular attempted to breach the walls of the Ivy League, because they're such educational climbers, but what they didn't know was that the Ivy League restricted Asian acceptances to about 20%. Why? Because the faculty often complained that Asian or Asian-American students couldn't contribute to in-class discussions. They were robotic memorizers.
This is the world we grew up in, and we presumed would always exist.

THE FUTURE
It looks like we're slowly moving back to a corrupt club model of Ivy League acceptances.
Meritocracy is dying, being replaced by a Three Estates model.
This is being caused by concentration of wealth.
That's why the Ivy's are catering more and more to the 1%.
Oh sure, they make token gestures to poor people. For example, if you can gain admittance to Harvard, and if your parents make less than $50K a year, they'll waive all tuition.
This is a token gesture. You still gotta get accepted. Which is next to impossible.
More evidence that meritocracy is dying: More and more universities are going test-optional.
Say what you want about the SAT, but it was intended to show East Coast fancy-pants that people in the South, West, Midwest, etc could compete intellectually with the boarding school kids.
Now the system is, piece by piece, quietly removing that yardstick.
It's easy to see this in a different light -- that the universities are shifting, slowly and mercilessly, back towards a non-meritocratic system.

The biggest irony? The Ivy Leagues were never that great at teaching undergrads.
In the last 70 years, a ton of other universities became far better at teaching undergrads.
Off the top of my head: Reed, Grinnell, Amherst, Rice, Harvey Mudd, etc etc etc.
Plus bigger name schools that aren't Ivy League include Stanford, U of Chicago, Northwestern, Emory, Vanderbilt, UVA, etc etc etc.
So, in 2019, just like 1919, the value of the Ivy League diploma isn't actually in how much you LEARN, it's in who you KNOW.
There's not much reason to go to an Ivy for undergrad other than that.
There IS reason to go there for grad programs. Definitely.
But undergrads? Overrated and irrelevant. Harvard has a $25 billion endowment. They don't even need undergrads.

[JohnKreese]

Good job investigators!

Now do China and their test-taking and admissions bribery.

[Robert High Hawk]

Well... some bad news.

We have the first real victim of this whole debacle.

Lori Loughlin's daughter, accomplished college student, varsity crew rower, Instagram "Influencer", and just all around great gal, has lost her sponsorship from Sephora makeup.

Here this young lady (and make no mistake folks, she is a true lady) was making an honest living by sharing her thots, sorry thoughts about college life, insightful makeup tips, etc... Now it's all gone. Her life is ruined.

https://www.today.com/style/lori-loughli...up-t150388

It's always the children who suffer....

[WalterBlack]

(03-14-2019 08:06 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  

Black Democrats/Liberals scream and holler about reparations, affirmative action, etc. and continue to vote for people that support this junk, and have no idea they are being legitimately screwed over by the legion of Nigerians and others that do not identify as Black, because they are actually African or something else with a different color passport to prove it. Probably more than 60% of Black Americans do not even have a passport.

How the fuck does legacy "Black America" close the gap with "whites" in America with Affirmative Action, if the schools and employers instead find people that are technically dark skinned but never had a great grandparent that was a slave or a sharecropper? If you never could put that clause in a law or a policy, it was ripe for exploitation.

Here's kids who got accepted to all 8 Ivy Leagues - do their names sound like Black Americans with ancestry going back to slavery?

Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna, Kwasi Enin, Ifeoma White-Thorpe

(03-14-2019 12:04 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Ben Shapiro had a good piece about this:

Quote:

The answer is obvious: no, it wouldn’t. Colleges aren’t about training kids for the real world, or teaching them significant modes of thinking, or examining timeless truths. Universities aren’t about skill sets, either – at least in the humanities. They’re about two things: credentialism and social connections.

100% true - I went to grad school in the US, and I've worked with many other people who took the same degree in different schools across the US. It turned out that nearly every university used the same Harvard Case studies. It's all about the network - you're taught the almost exactly the same stuff at all the universities.

If you go to the Ivy League, your classmates are future Prime Ministers, Senators, Presidents, CEOs etc. If you took the same class at Cal State, you're not gonna come across anyone like that.

(03-14-2019 01:28 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  

Good job investigators!

Now do China and their test-taking and admissions bribery.

Some of the Chinese students in my course cheated. They worked in groups on solo assignments.

We also had a Japanese lady in my class whose English was so bad, she couldn't string a sentence together in English. I'm not sure she ever passed but she got involved with some rich guy from Taiwan so I doubt she gives a shit.

[porscheguy]

I often wondered how college students who could barely piece together a sentence in English ever got themselves through English 101.

[WalterBlack]

(03-14-2019 03:33 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

I often wondered how college students who could barely piece together a sentence in English ever got themselves through English 101.

There's a lot of people from non-English speaking countries who can read and write in English, but can barely speak it. They take it as a second language at school.

Their verbal ability is crap because they don't need to speak in English in their day to day life.

[nek]

the feudal system is the norm, the burgeoning middle class is the occasional hiccup in human history.

[nek]

I have a buddy that got into investment banking from a state university. Knowing what I know now about how they recruit, where they recruit from, and what people are up against that don't come from the "right" schools and families, I'm even more impressed by what he's accomplished.

[Captainstabbin]

[Captainstabbin]

This is one cute girl, but how stupid do you have to be to require a $500k bribe to get into USC? My ex went to USC and, while she's smart, she not outstanding.



EDIT: She's 19 in this pic.