Quote: (02-01-2019 06:06 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:
Quote: (02-01-2019 12:26 AM)Buddydowrongright2 Wrote:
Quote: (01-31-2019 11:49 PM)Shrodax Wrote:
Quote: (01-31-2019 10:19 PM)dasher Wrote:
Is making fun of Scalzi the hill he wants to die on?
Probably. Vox Day and John Scalzi have been feuding for such a long time, it's a lifestyle-choice at this point. From what I could find, they've been feuding since 2005.
Buddydowrongright2 has a good write-up of Vox Day's war against SJWs in the sci-fi/fantasy realm, of which Scalzi is one. But he starts the history in 2015 with the Sad Puppies and Rabid Puppies campaigns and their involvement with the Hugo Awards. You can look back even further to 2013 when Vox Day unsuccessfully ran for president of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (to succeed none other than John Scalzi) - an event that culminated in Vox Day being expelled from the organization entirely.
John Scalzi and his wife.
This is a mean-spirited, petty thing to do and I'm tired of seeing it in the mansosphere.
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You will notice I submitted the picture without comment. I mostly think it's funny because of the size differential between them, but people are allowed to draw their own conclusions. I don't personally find her attractive, though, and I also don't think it's foul play to comment on the attractiveness of the wives or girlfriends of public figures. We do that all the time here and for the record so do they. Don't forget how their side treated (and still treats) Melania Trump. You're right that I am a mean-spirited asshole, but on the practice of posting a publicly available picture and having a chuckle, there are entire threads on that here for better or worse and there have been pretty much since the beginning. It is far, far different sharing a pic here for the LOLs than going attack dog mode on someone and harassing them, their spouse, and their kids. I am against that too. But I will point out, the left does that all the damned time.
Whether or not we should occasionally post pictures of soy-guzzling GloboHomo slobs and their Amazonian spouses is up to the mods. If the Gods of RVF say "no more," then so be it.
Otherwise, agree to disagree. I don't think we have a moral obligation to show mercy and be kind to enemies who would not do the same to us. Just the fact you post here means a guy like Scalzi would not hesitate to destroy your life and career if you were even tangentially related to his field and somehow got doxed. That is how men like Scalzi operate. There have been plenty of chances for the left, especially in SF&F publication/fandom to pump the breaks and show they can be civil to their political opposites, yet they never do - they always choose to double down and drive a deeper wedge. Are we obligated to try to remove it or slow it down? I say no.
Of course all of this is only my opinion, and I don't expect anyone else to share it. But the SJW rot in SF&F, in book publishing, and in the entertainment industry at large is one I take personally, because I have to. I don't work in book publishing, but I have tangled with people like this asshole my whole career, who would absolutely wipe you off the slate for speaking even one minor, tiny instance of WrongThink. I've survived scrapes with guys like this in HR or in discussion groups or work chats or wherever by the hair of my asscrack, more than once, and I know personally just how ruthless they can be, whether one's intent is to say or something offensive or if it is totally innocent.
They don't care. So... fuck them. Fight fire with fire. You don't have to. That's fine. But if I see a picture of Mr. Leaping Gavel of the Internet himself being dwarfed by his wife with a look on his face like he just ate her bloody tampon and liked it, bet your ass I'm going to laugh.
That aside, your post touches on something else quite interesting to me, and relevant to this forum, which is the idea of Scalzi having game. This is endlessly amusing to me, not because I think you're wrong, but because you are absolutely 100% probably right. It is a kind of game we often mock here but it should be noted that it exists and can be effective even for weak sacks of male feminist shit like the author in question.
Scalzi is the guy who has made the soy face in almost every photograph he has ever appeared in. His appearance is, by any measure, that of a hairy beanbag chair. Physically atrophied. Sedentary. Proudly dishonorable. Probably useless in war (although you never know who might be a decent shot). All in all, his public persona at least is Bonobo Society Patient Zero. But I am not a game denialist, and if he has an angle, he has one. There are women - god bless them - who are willing to sleep with this type of men. Some even prefer them because of how non-threatening they are.
Scalzi reminds me of a roommate I had in college who was the same sort of doughy, effete hipster asshole who would talk all kinds of shit behind a keyboard, but would shrink and slink away like Gollum the second someone stepped to his face in real life. I once overheard this guy trash-talking my Iron Maiden records to some scene girl he brought back to the bedroom we shared. It was a sleazy, underhanded thing to do to someone he claimed to be friends with, but... such is the mating dance.
Hipster Roommate got girls, and a few of them were even somewhat cute - although the cute ones were far outnumbered by the weird artsy vegans with rats living in their hair and part-time lesbians with bodies like Mexican moms at WalMart. Still, pussy is pussy. Any time he brought a girl home, which didn't happen that often, but often enough to not be an accident of the universe - I would wonder:
how could a guy who weighs 130 pounds soaking wet and has never had his ass kicked once in his life, convince women to mate with him?
The only answer I could ever come up with was that
hipster signaling is attractive to a small subset of women who can't tell the difference. It's a shitty facsimile of masculinity to pretend to be tough on pop culture, be it books or Netflix series or foreign films or politics or whatever, but for many women out there, that shitty facsimile is enough. These women will open their legs and let those slimy two or three pumps occur, allowing the hipster douche to reach his biological goal for the evening. Hell, maybe she will even get a super woke mixtape out of it the following morning. She feels safe knowing her partner will never hurt her or a fly, until that moment when a larger male specimen catcalls her in front of his face while they are walking past, or she sees him getting worked up about an argument he had on Facebook with someone whose opinions were just *wrong*, or it comes time for him to engage in any type of physical activity that doesn't involve sitting. Then, those lingering doubts will surface from the nether-regions of her mind and she may question him. But as long as he remains a good male feminist, she will still give him his treats those two or three times a year he manages to achieve an erection.