[finalstep]

It seems the latter 2 have been accepted as the handsdown place to be to get your numbers up, and while I don't disagree I actually liked Ho Chi Minh more:

1) I pipelined hard before I came to Vietnam and unlike Manila I did not encounter any catfishing (granted in Manila it went both ways, a couple average looking girls showed up to be borderline 9s and what looked like dimes in pictures showed up with missing teeth, hunched backs, and extra 30lb).
2) Girls there take care of themselves much better than in BKK or Manila. Flawless skin, dress well, and work hard to impress you.
3) Most important, I really didn't find them any harder to bang. Most came back after a quick meal or drink. I went for 14 days, covered 6 cities and ended with 11 notches (6 were in HCM)
4) As far as everything else goes, food and culture there are awesome, weather is nice, people are almost as hospitable as BKK.

The downsides are most hotels don't let you bring random girls back (but do your research and you can get around that), day game is not really possible as English here is worst of the 3, but honestly I never understood the purpose of day gaming in a place like SE Asia. You day game in Sweeden, where you can't compete on looks and the locals have no game, so you should stand out in that regard. Day gaming in a place where you can't speak the language is pointless imo, you won't have better conversation than a local will. I always try to lead with what makes me stand out in any given place, in SE Asia it's white skin, muscles, and money, i'd rather limit the conversation in a place where I won't excel at it.

What has been everyone else's experience here? Bangkok is having major air pollution issues this month which have me worried, so was thinking of closing out my 3 month trip in HCM.

[Il Bersagliere]

It's because you pipelined for HCMC. Manila is a much easier city than Saigon for zero date bangs even with cold leads where girls will come to your condo directly even if you are living outside the center. The girls also put up less LMR (or none at all) than Viet girls and generally speaking are lower maintenance. You need to take Viet girls out for a bit and go through the motions usually depending but they are better looking so it's worth it...

For everything else though, Saigon is a fantastic city with great people and good vibe and an eclectic food scene. Vibrant and cosmopolitan. I fucking hate the Philippines and can't stand being around Filipinos and that slight bump in difficulty is absolutely worth it. Never been to BKK so can't comment.

[finalstep]

(01-27-2019 05:30 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

It's because you pipelined for HCMC. Manila is a much easier city than Saigon for zero date bangs even with cold leads where girls will come to your condo directly even if you are living outside the center. The girls also put up less LMR (or none at all) than Viet girls and generally speaking are lower maintenance. You need to take Viet girls out for a bit and go through the motions usually depending but they are better looking so it's worth it...

For everything else though, Saigon is a fantastic city with great people and good vibe and an eclectic food scene. Vibrant and cosmopolitan. I fucking hate the Philippines and can't stand being around Filipinos and that slight bump in difficulty is absolutely worth it. Never been to BKK so can't comment.

Well I pipeline everywhere but I had some easy pulls at night as well. Good point there, I remember being shocked at how far girls in manila were willing to travel if you just paid for the taxi.

As a city manila doesn't compare, it lacks the culture shock, Asian authenticity, and people are just not as nice and transportation is awful. The English is a big plus though, after a while not being able to have a complex conversation becomes annoying. I might try other cities in the Philippines next year for comparison.

[Davinator]

It's in general a way more conservative and strict society there.

[Polero]

Shhhh we don't need more thirsty dudes in VN. Let them enjoy Manila, Shitbu and BKK and all the chicks with dicks/sluts with nuts over there.

I also think Saigon is harder than Manila and BKK, the traffic in D1 is very similar if not worse. The air quality is awful. I love Viet food and Vietnam has a lot of history/historical sites so that's a plus for me.

English levels tend to be lower and what I suppose happens is that most of us going to Saigon end up banging the same English speaking foreign hunters, which I'm fine with.

[SandersV]

I'm impressed with your results but perhaps you banged a bunch of 5-6s. But Saigon seems like a place that takes weeks to months to crack if you want quality women. (only been in Saigon about a week)

[ChefAllDay]

(01-27-2019 05:02 PM)finalstep Wrote:  

borderline 9s and what looked like dimes in pictures showed up with missing teeth, hunched backs

Hunchback game recognized

[RatInTheWoods]

If you are a SMV 8 male then Viet probably better for you, as the quality is higher and the resistance is higher, but the payoff better.

The philippines and Thai better for SMV 6 guys, or older dudes, as the action is easier to get.

I like Thai food better, and the people are more friendly and the culture warmer than Vietnam.

[endeavor hustle]

(01-27-2019 05:30 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

For everything else though, Saigon is a fantastic city with great people and good vibe and an eclectic food scene. Vibrant and cosmopolitan. I fucking hate the Philippines and can't stand being around Filipinos and that slight bump in difficulty is absolutely worth it. Never been to BKK so can't comment.

Why are you still there? Other guys have called you out on this before. I couldn't care less if you are miserable, just an observation on your living condition.

[Il Bersagliere]

(01-28-2019 07:38 AM)endeavor hustle Wrote:  

(01-27-2019 05:30 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  

For everything else though, Saigon is a fantastic city with great people and good vibe and an eclectic food scene. Vibrant and cosmopolitan. I fucking hate the Philippines and can't stand being around Filipinos and that slight bump in difficulty is absolutely worth it. Never been to BKK so can't comment.

Why are you still there? Other guys have called you out on this before. I couldn't care less if you are miserable, just an observation on your living condition.

Who says I'm still there? Go troll somewhere else.

Seems like like people get butthurt when I trash that place. It's never gonna stop. Just fyi. I've even had pinoys try and dox me by luring me to meet in real life. I'm too smart for those idiots.

[JimBobsCooters]

Part of it is that the visa is a right pain in the ass to get.

Part of it is that Vietnam still has a stigma from the war, most people don't seem to have a clue what it's really like there and think it's a shithole when it really isn't for the most part.

The other part is that it's really only started opening up for tourism in the last decade or so, as annoying as that visa is apparently they've streamlined it significantly in the last few years, Vietnam used to be one of the true backpacker tests where having been there was a genuine achievement in travel.

I also didn't notice anywhere near the level of P4P in Vietnam, I'm sure it's there as I don't look for it, but Bangkok (and Manila) are famous for that element which puts them on the more mainstream list of the sex tourists who aren't thinking about gaming and just want to get cheap pussy.

[EndsExpect]

As per the law, a foreigner cannot share a room with a citizen of Vietnam without a certificate of marriage as a proof.

It's not often enforced, but it gives you an idea of how Vietnamese view sex tourists.

[flyinghorse]

(01-29-2019 02:22 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

As per the law, a foreigner cannot share a room with a citizen of Vietnam without a certificate of marriage as a proof.

It's not often enforced, but it gives you an idea of how Vietnamese view sex tourists.

That law was lifted years ago!

Laos still has that law though.

[the-dream]

I think simply because there is not such an abundance of easy girls.

Also, Bangkok has an artificially boosted reputation because it is a way more popular tourist destination than the other two and Manila has an artificially boosted reputation because there are lots of bloggers writing about it to get clicks on their FilipinoCupid affiliate links.

[AlexWW]

There are issues with the food quality in VN, you can find many articles talking about how toxic it can be :

https://www.google.com/search?q=vietnam+...40&bih=786

This added to the poor air quality can lower the immune system.

That doesn't mean others SEA countries are better, I just know a little about VN.

[Fortis]

I suspect Vietnam requires work and an understanding of the culture + a language barrier.

I also got the impression during my short stay in Vietnam that the girls were an order of magnitude more cunning than your average pinay, so you can't just show up and run don't fuck up game. You have to bring some skill to the table.

Bangkok and Manila are straight up sex tourism capitals. If you tell your average Westerner you're hitting up Bangkok or Manila they either give you a knowing smile or a look of disgust.

I actually like that Vietnam doesn't quite have the same rep as Thailand or the Philippines. When I mention enjoying Vietnam people usually say "oh I haven't been there" instead of something about hookers.

[travolta]

(01-28-2019 07:48 AM)JimBobsCooters Wrote:  

Part of it is that the visa is a right pain in the ass to get.

Really? You can get a visa when you arrive at the airport and it takes 15 minutes

[aeroektar]

(04-05-2019 08:56 AM)AlexWW Wrote:  

There are issues with the food quality in VN, you can find many articles talking about how toxic it can be :

https://www.google.com/search?q=vietnam+...40&bih=786

This added to the poor air quality can lower the immune system.

That doesn't mean others SEA countries are better, I just know a little about VN.

It can't be as bad as the USA, I don't think I saw one retard or deformed person in HCMC, meanwhile in the USA it seems like 20% of the people are retards or cripples.

I didn't get sick once in Vietnam, but I'm pretty sure I have guts of steel at this point. I thought the food was great.

HCMC did feel like a very dirty city though, I'd be more concerned with the air and water quality then the food, my lungs felt like shit and my skin was badly irritated (I suspect from the shower water) in the place I stayed in D1 my first week. Several of the girls I was with also complained of skin problems. Maybe it is the food, who the fuck knows.

[croquet]

(04-05-2019 10:10 AM)travolta Wrote:  

Really? You can get a visa when you arrive at the airport and it takes 15 minutes

If you don't have 5 planes landing at once. It was a good 2 hours for me. VOA.

[Sp5]

It's just not as easy as Bangkok or Manila, or Kuala Lumpur or Indonesia for that matter.

Would be better for a long trip and looking for a wife.