Introduction
I am fairly certain that there is no thread about this yet but it is an interesting subject given the size and scope of influence of the Catholic Church as an organization.
To be clear from the outset, I am not starting this thread to bash Catholics or Catholicism as a religion.
Essentially, I am starting this thread to see opinions about the somewhat shadowy civil war that is currently being waged within the Church and which has been going on for at least half a century now if not far longer. The two major parties taking part in the conflict are, on one side, those who wish to bring the Church back to a more conservative point in the past (most likely pre-Vatican II) and, on the other, those who can be described as comprising something like a gay mafia within the clergy which is so powerful that its members can quite literally get away with running what in every way appears to be an international child abuse ring. There is also much being uncovered now about abuses committed by nuns but I did not want to exceed five videos in this post. Information about that can be found through a web search.
The Catholic Church is still currently the single largest religious organization on the planet as well as being the wealthiest, though some believe that the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) now competes with it for this title. There are Catholic universities and primary schools all over the world and priests stationed in virtually every country with the probable exceptions of North Korea (for obvious reasons) and the Peoples' Republic of China which only legally allows Catholic-style worship conducted by churches belonging to the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association (CPA), which does not accept the primacy of the Roman Pontiff (which means it is not Roman Catholic) and is run directly by the Communist Party through its own Chinese bishops who have either been excommunicated by the Vatican or were never ordained by it in the first place. It is unknown to me how many underground Catholic priests there are operating in China outside of the CPA or whether they receive guidance and support from the Vatican. All this is to say that the importance of the Catholic Church and Catholicism globally is undeniable.
Personally, I am emotionally inclined toward Atheism but logically inclined toward Theism and I do think that religion is a necessary thing which no civilization can survive long without and that most if not all individuals, if deprived of it long enough, will eventually concoct or adopt some artificial and very often destructive religion of their own, such as Marxism or the Cult of Reason which was sponsored by the state during the French Revolution, and cling to it just as fanatically as a 1st century Judean zealot. That being said however, I am uncertain of the future of the Catholic Church in particular as an institution and, consequently, Roman Catholicism as a religion.
What do you all think?
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The Videos
The content of the videos below provide, I think, a good foundation for discussion. All of these videos are from Church Militant. That channel and the website by the same name have much more than what I have included here. If you are interested in looking more into this issue, they are worth checking out.
1. This interview covers many fascinating topics from lesbians controlling the media to Pope Francis. It is worth listening all the way through if you have time. In this interview, which I believe may be his first in quite some time, Milo also talks about his own now infamous encounter in his early teens with a priest.
2. Apparently, at least 10% of priests worldwide are gay and up to 50% of all priests in the Vatican are gay. It is believed by many, including myself, that the gay culture is the dominant culture within the Catholic priesthood globally and most especially in Western countries. It seems that the Church has been subverted and overtaken from within in much the same way that academia has been.
3. A gay seminarian (priest in training) leaves the seminary and blows the whistle not because he was upset with the gay activity he witnessed but because he was upset by the hypocrisy of the gay priests refusing to come out publicly and ruin good thing they have going.
4. The title is self-explanatory. The conspiracy runs very deep.
5. The South American Gay Seminarian Pipeline through which gay South American men were actively recruited and funneled into seminaries in the US. Some of them were and are known serial child abusers. This case goes very deep and many people were involved.
I am fairly certain that there is no thread about this yet but it is an interesting subject given the size and scope of influence of the Catholic Church as an organization.
To be clear from the outset, I am not starting this thread to bash Catholics or Catholicism as a religion.
Essentially, I am starting this thread to see opinions about the somewhat shadowy civil war that is currently being waged within the Church and which has been going on for at least half a century now if not far longer. The two major parties taking part in the conflict are, on one side, those who wish to bring the Church back to a more conservative point in the past (most likely pre-Vatican II) and, on the other, those who can be described as comprising something like a gay mafia within the clergy which is so powerful that its members can quite literally get away with running what in every way appears to be an international child abuse ring. There is also much being uncovered now about abuses committed by nuns but I did not want to exceed five videos in this post. Information about that can be found through a web search.
The Catholic Church is still currently the single largest religious organization on the planet as well as being the wealthiest, though some believe that the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) now competes with it for this title. There are Catholic universities and primary schools all over the world and priests stationed in virtually every country with the probable exceptions of North Korea (for obvious reasons) and the Peoples' Republic of China which only legally allows Catholic-style worship conducted by churches belonging to the Chinese Catholic Patriotic Association (CPA), which does not accept the primacy of the Roman Pontiff (which means it is not Roman Catholic) and is run directly by the Communist Party through its own Chinese bishops who have either been excommunicated by the Vatican or were never ordained by it in the first place. It is unknown to me how many underground Catholic priests there are operating in China outside of the CPA or whether they receive guidance and support from the Vatican. All this is to say that the importance of the Catholic Church and Catholicism globally is undeniable.
Personally, I am emotionally inclined toward Atheism but logically inclined toward Theism and I do think that religion is a necessary thing which no civilization can survive long without and that most if not all individuals, if deprived of it long enough, will eventually concoct or adopt some artificial and very often destructive religion of their own, such as Marxism or the Cult of Reason which was sponsored by the state during the French Revolution, and cling to it just as fanatically as a 1st century Judean zealot. That being said however, I am uncertain of the future of the Catholic Church in particular as an institution and, consequently, Roman Catholicism as a religion.
What do you all think?
The Videos
The content of the videos below provide, I think, a good foundation for discussion. All of these videos are from Church Militant. That channel and the website by the same name have much more than what I have included here. If you are interested in looking more into this issue, they are worth checking out.
1. This interview covers many fascinating topics from lesbians controlling the media to Pope Francis. It is worth listening all the way through if you have time. In this interview, which I believe may be his first in quite some time, Milo also talks about his own now infamous encounter in his early teens with a priest.
2. Apparently, at least 10% of priests worldwide are gay and up to 50% of all priests in the Vatican are gay. It is believed by many, including myself, that the gay culture is the dominant culture within the Catholic priesthood globally and most especially in Western countries. It seems that the Church has been subverted and overtaken from within in much the same way that academia has been.
3. A gay seminarian (priest in training) leaves the seminary and blows the whistle not because he was upset with the gay activity he witnessed but because he was upset by the hypocrisy of the gay priests refusing to come out publicly and ruin good thing they have going.
4. The title is self-explanatory. The conspiracy runs very deep.
5. The South American Gay Seminarian Pipeline through which gay South American men were actively recruited and funneled into seminaries in the US. Some of them were and are known serial child abusers. This case goes very deep and many people were involved.
