[Hydrae Cube]

(01-17-2019 02:40 PM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

Ukraine Pre-Orange Revolution before 2005....No smartphones, no social media, no airbnb, no budget airlines, needed a Visa and before 2002(even after depending on the Visa) needed registration with the Visa......3-4:1 club ratios and decent nightlife.....I laugh when I see posts like "oh 2008, 2012" etc.

Well it depends on who we are talking about, decent looking guys still doing well in Ukriane despite the deterioration there, even since my early days in Ukraine, Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners. The nightlife was never that great either.

So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001

[Eddie Morra]

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere....."Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners." Never said they did. "The nightlife was never that great either..." I said decent, especially given the ratios, I didn't say great.

"So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001" I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

[Hydrae Cube]

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere.....I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere

Well doesn't take a genius to figure out why someone who smashed it in 2018 might be bitter in 2019, it's called ageing, you should know something about that )

You may laugh at someone who thought Ukraine was a pussy paradise in 2008, but he could have been ten times more successful than you, we all have our own perceptions of paradise. I once met an old guy in Ukraine, who was not in the best of health(not a rare thing) I showed him some naked pictures of a girl I was banging and he told me if he could fuck her he would happily die the next day and I believed him.

What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport.

Quote:

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

For you maybe, we have no idea who you are. What facts?

Some guys are just happy to be in the company of young beautiful women, without even laid. Plenty of pensioners in Ukraine shelling out money and getting nothing in return. Maybe they feel they are in paradise, who am I to judge?

[Eddie Morra]

(01-18-2019 11:18 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere.....I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere

Well doesn't take a genius to figure out why someone who smashed it in 2018 might be bitter in 2019, it's called ageing, you should know something about that )

You may laugh at someone who thought Ukraine was a pussy paradise in 2008, but he could have been ten times more successful than you, we all have our own perceptions of paradise. I once met an old guy in Ukraine, who was not in the best of health(not a rare thing) I showed him some naked pictures of a girl I was banging and he told me if he could fuck her he would happily die the next day and I believed him.

What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport.

Quote:

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

For you maybe, we have no idea who you are. What facts?

Some guys are just happy to be in the company of young beautiful women, without even laid. Plenty of pensioners in Ukraine shelling out money and getting nothing in return. Maybe they feel they are in paradise, who am I to judge?

"Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere" You started this dance buddy...

"What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport." The title of the thread is: "Did you ever hit a Pussy Paradise and when?" I posted, wasn't out scoffing anyone. In fact, I clarified it in my reply to you:

"You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life..."

As far as facts, I stated them in my original post. Don't believe me? Google some of them. Not hard to do. When did smartphones enter the market? AirBnB, Visa restrictions, budget airlines, etc.

BTW No one knows who you are either pal. Good luck with that Rep point.

[Mentavious]

For us young guys a lot of these places are still pussy paradises.

I see early 2000s were a good time for Asia and Eastern Europe well I’m sure men who went there in the 1990s would scoff at that idea. Men who went there in the 1980s would say the same as well.

I don’t know how it was pre smart phone but when I started going to Asia a couple of years ago, it was easier than anything I of realistically dreamed up.

[Hydrae Cube]

(01-18-2019 11:26 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 11:18 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere.....I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere

Well doesn't take a genius to figure out why someone who smashed it in 2018 might be bitter in 2019, it's called ageing, you should know something about that )

You may laugh at someone who thought Ukraine was a pussy paradise in 2008, but he could have been ten times more successful than you, we all have our own perceptions of paradise. I once met an old guy in Ukraine, who was not in the best of health(not a rare thing) I showed him some naked pictures of a girl I was banging and he told me if he could fuck her he would happily die the next day and I believed him.

What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport.

Quote:

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

For you maybe, we have no idea who you are. What facts?

Some guys are just happy to be in the company of young beautiful women, without even laid. Plenty of pensioners in Ukraine shelling out money and getting nothing in return. Maybe they feel they are in paradise, who am I to judge?

"Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere" You started this dance buddy...

"What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport." The title of the thread is: "Did you ever hit a Pussy Paradise and when?" I posted, wasn't out scoffing anyone. In fact, I clarified it in my reply to you:

"You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life..."

As far as facts, I stated them in my original post. Don't believe me? Google some of them. Not hard to do. When did smartphones enter the market? AirBnB, Visa restrictions, budget airlines, etc.

BTW No one knows who you are either pal. Good luck with that Rep point.

Everyone know's about the globalist weapons of destruction for single men, no need to go over old ground.

You're the only one talking about rep points

You haven't contributed an awful lot in the many years you have been on the forum, you've told us how great it was pre-orange revolution time but you haven't told us a single thing about your experiences.

Here's some "words of wisdom" of yours

thread-37535...pid1100089

Most of it complete rubbish like "Carrying your passport at all times" only a fool would do that.

[BangBoy123]

I think that these days in Ukraine you need an edge over the marauding hoards. Just turning up being foreign, good looking, and having some money in your pocket isn't enough anymore. If you're planning on living there, then you need a strategy which is not drinking all day and night and trying to get ONS from clubs.

Many of them want to go and work in Europe - so set up a company hooking up Ukrainians with work in EU
Many want to be models or dancers - Set up a an agency
They need to know good English to be employable in EU - be a private tutor
Tell them you have a fashion company and you can get them discounted clothing from EU

Give them a reason to be with a guy that's old enough to be their father.

The biggest weakness of Ukrainian women is that many, especially the younger ones, are gullible as fuck. I encourage bullshitting them as much as possible. They are often gaming you more than you realise.

[EwartGrogan]

Don't shit where you eat. It'll be enough for them to accidentally meet some SJW journalist to organise a witchhaunt on you for "exploiting poor eastern European girls for sexual favours" and become the toxic male anti-hero of the week in headlines. Not worth risking.

[Laner]

1998 - Prague and Krakow for cities, Corfu and Ios for destinations.
1999 - 2005 - Tokyo. Jeezuz this was an amazing time.
2002- Thailand.

When Tinder first came out it was nuts (ha) in Vancouver.

[JayMillz]

Mexico 1997-98
DR in 2000-2005
Cuba 2000-2001
Medellin 2010

[BoiBoi]

Berlin 2010 - 2014

[Eddie Morra]

(01-18-2019 04:38 PM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 11:26 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 11:18 AM)Hydrae Cube Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere.....I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere

Well doesn't take a genius to figure out why someone who smashed it in 2018 might be bitter in 2019, it's called ageing, you should know something about that )

You may laugh at someone who thought Ukraine was a pussy paradise in 2008, but he could have been ten times more successful than you, we all have our own perceptions of paradise. I once met an old guy in Ukraine, who was not in the best of health(not a rare thing) I showed him some naked pictures of a girl I was banging and he told me if he could fuck her he would happily die the next day and I believed him.

What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport.

Quote:

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

For you maybe, we have no idea who you are. What facts?

Some guys are just happy to be in the company of young beautiful women, without even laid. Plenty of pensioners in Ukraine shelling out money and getting nothing in return. Maybe they feel they are in paradise, who am I to judge?

"Pretty aggressive response out of nowhere" You started this dance buddy...

"What was constructive about your post? Scoffing about anyone else that wasn't there at the time you were, when perhaps 18yr old models were swooning when you whipped out your passport." The title of the thread is: "Did you ever hit a Pussy Paradise and when?" I posted, wasn't out scoffing anyone. In fact, I clarified it in my reply to you:

"You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life..."

As far as facts, I stated them in my original post. Don't believe me? Google some of them. Not hard to do. When did smartphones enter the market? AirBnB, Visa restrictions, budget airlines, etc.

BTW No one knows who you are either pal. Good luck with that Rep point.

Everyone know's about the globalist weapons of destruction for single men, no need to go over old ground.

You're the only one talking about rep points

You haven't contributed an awful lot in the many years you have been on the forum, you've told us how great it was pre-orange revolution time but you haven't told us a single thing about your experiences.

Here's some "words of wisdom" of yours

thread-37535...pid1100089

Most of it complete rubbish like "Carrying your passport at all times" only a fool would do that.

Troll.

[Eddie Morra]

(01-18-2019 04:52 PM)BangBoy123 Wrote:  

I think that these days in Ukraine you need an edge over the marauding hoards. Just turning up being foreign, good looking, and having some money in your pocket isn't enough anymore. If you're planning on living there, then you need a strategy which is not drinking all day and night and trying to get ONS from clubs.

Many of them want to go and work in Europe - so set up a company hooking up Ukrainians with work in EU
Many want to be models or dancers - Set up a an agency
They need to know good English to be employable in EU - be a private tutor
Tell them you have a fashion company and you can get them discounted clothing from EU

Give them a reason to be with a guy that's old enough to be their father.

The biggest weakness of Ukrainian women is that many, especially the younger ones, are gullible as fuck. I encourage bullshitting them as much as possible. They are often gaming you more than you realise.

Well said!

[Nordwand]

As a young man in the 80's, I recall talking to truck drivers, who were doing long range runs, to countries that were then described as "Iron Curtain". There was no talk of women, probably because these guys had a schedule to keep, but they discussed things like restaurants, and certain consumer goods, and how much they were able to obtain/do by using dollars instead of local currencies. It makes me wonder what other aspects of life, such as PUA, would have been like then for a well turned out Anglo guy, on a good wage.

[TheBMan]

(01-17-2019 06:32 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 03:06 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

Tallahassee 88-90. Little sister rush was not to be missed.

Atlanta Buckhead Village 96-00. Ray Lewis didn't just kill a man, he killed Buckhead Village.

Fuck Ray Lewis till this day. He also killed the 24 hour clubs in Atlanta-Literally the best party scene in North America was ruined by that fucking idiot-RIP:Atlanta Nightlife 96-03

I remember my first trip to Atlanta visiting a college friend right around 2000/2001 and stumbling out of Riviera at 7 am

[SlickyBoy]

If you mean ease of lays, that varies a lot not only by era but also geographically and of course per what the individual brings to the table. For me the paradise angle had as much to do with the mutual curiosity factor, pre-Google, where neither side knew too much about the other without serious research. I miss those days.

Seoul (and other cities), South Korea 1995-2000ish. Be American and you were good. Speak the language, and you were god. Amazing.
Vietnam, mid 90s- right before the big cruises and mega construction got there. The women were still pretty conservative, but that was a good thing.
Thailand, late 90s, pre-stupidly large crowds of tourists, especially in places like Chang Mai. This is pretty much happening all over SEA now.

The pre-smartphone/Google era made for a sense of discovery that younger guys unfortunately won't ever experience unless they go really far into the sticks. By sticks I'm talking undesirable places like rural India or Afghanistan, probably risking life and limb only to meet some pretty ugly women who still aren't so easy to get.


Even most US cities back before the smartphone were not so bad, and club game worked well before club owners started blasting the music so loud nobody could talk (sells more drinks). Throw in the smartphones and shitty ratios - just forget it now. There was definitely a sweet spot in the west that probably started in the late seventies and went up through the expiration of early game, a-la Strauss and his now obsolete book, The Game.

In addition to the smartphone, an early canary in the coal mine for all of the aforementioned places was the arrival and eventual flourishing of unusual body piercings and multiple tattoos all over women. Tats on women were very rare in the west and unheard of in Asia till about the late 90s. Even then it took a while to catch on since most women still didn't want to look like whores. Actual hookers on the streets of Asia in 1996 looked prim & proper compared to the average "non-prostitute" woman painted like a subway underpass nowadays. The hookers of old probably had lower notch counts too. It's a sad inversion of reality.

[brianmark]

(01-17-2019 06:32 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(01-17-2019 03:06 PM)Hypno Wrote:  

Tallahassee 88-90. Little sister rush was not to be missed.

Atlanta Buckhead Village 96-00. Ray Lewis didn't just kill a man, he killed Buckhead Village.

Fuck Ray Lewis till this day. He also killed the 24 hour clubs in Atlanta-Literally the best party scene in North America was ruined by that fucking idiot-RIP:Atlanta Nightlife 96-03

I have to agree 100% with Hypno and Atlanta Man. Buckhead Village was like a little Bourbon Street. I moved to Atlanta in 1996 and got laid my first night out in Buckhead, which was my second night in town. I knew I was in a pussy paradise, unfortunately short-lived. After Lewis got away with murder, the thugs came out and people were getting shot and murdered there in 2000. Yes, they cut back the closing times for bars from 4:00 to 2:00, then later extended to 2:30. Buckhead Villiage has been bulldozed down and replaced with something that resembles Beverly Hills. What's left in Buckhead moved up Peachtree and is tame in comparison.

[brianmark]

(01-18-2019 01:21 AM)Titus Wrote:  

I can't imagine anywhere in the world easier to bang chicks than the Amazon forest cities in Brazil (Manaus, Belem, Boa Vista, etc). You get embarassed with so much eye fucking and girls literally open you randomly in the streets, with great chances of pulling her straight to the hotel and banging her in the first few minutes of interaction. Night game also as easy as it could be, seems there's an unwritten rule that the girl HAS to fuck ASAP after meeting you. Online game is totally unnecessary.

Is this still going on or is this a thing of the past?

[brianmark]

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere....."Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners." Never said they did. "The nightlife was never that great either..." I said decent, especially given the ratios, I didn't say great.

"So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001" I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

I went to Ukraine my first time in 2004 and have to agree 100% with Eddie Morra. It was super easy. Most girls didn't have jobs. I had girls calling me, and more girls to date than time to take them out. On one day I had 4 dates because there were so many. That's how good it was. The quality was super high and I had several beauties interested in me. I went back to Kiev again in Dec 2005 and the economy had improved in the preceding 18 months. Girls had jobs and flaked, and I actually had days without dates. I went back in 2006, it was even worse. I had to take out 18 girls to get my first lay. I lived in Ukraine that year and had a very pretty Ukrainian girlfriend in Kharkov and was able to have other girls too. I haven't been back since, but I have heard from people who've been there since that after the economic collapse that things are good again there. I hope to get back next year to see for myself.

Yes, there were no smartphones in 2004. Girls weren't actively trolling the internet then for sponsors. They had to meet men in person. You needed a Visa to go to the Ukraine then and their were no discount airlines flying to Ukraine. So if you were on the ground, you had the girls. Age didn't matter. Older in many ways was better because they saw you as established, stable, and having money. I could go on, but I remember Emailing home that "I'm dating my first 10 and she is half my age."

[NextStop100]

Mexico City two years ago. Banged 7 Mexicanas in 6 days.

Could likely repeat but forum reports seem to indicate things are changing over there

[Eddie Morra]

(01-19-2019 11:15 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere....."Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners." Never said they did. "The nightlife was never that great either..." I said decent, especially given the ratios, I didn't say great.

"So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001" I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

I went to Ukraine my first time in 2004 and have to agree 100% with Eddie Morra. It was super easy. Most girls didn't have jobs. I had girls calling me, and more girls to date than time to take them out. On one day I had 4 dates because there were so many. That's how good it was. The quality was super high and I had several beauties interested in me. I went back to Kiev again in Dec 2005 and the economy had improved in the preceding 18 months. Girls had jobs and flaked, and I actually had days without dates. I went back in 2006, it was even worse. I had to take out 18 girls to get my first lay. I lived in Ukraine that year and had a very pretty Ukrainian girlfriend in Kharkov and was able to have other girls too. I haven't been back since, but I have heard from people who've been there since that after the economic collapse that things are good again there. I hope to get back next year to see for myself.

Yes, there were no smartphones in 2004. Girls weren't actively trolling the internet then for sponsors. They had to meet men in person. You needed a Visa to go to the Ukraine then and their were no discount airlines flying to Ukraine. So if you were on the ground, you had the girls. Age didn't matter. Older in many ways was better because they saw you as established, stable, and having money. I could go on, but I remember Emailing home that "I'm dating my first 10 and she is half my age."

Nice to hear an opinion of someone who was also here Pre-Orange Revolution. I know the country's been through a lot since. I've actually lived here through it all. The reason I said Pre-Orange Revolution was that quite a few things happenned within 4 years of it when combined with the advances in Tech, social media platforms, airbnb, budget airlines etc. during that same period, had a huge effect on the place in such a short timespan. Not that it was any type of paradise before then, except for the women of course other than that it was pretty rough actually, especially compared to now....

Curious to see how your next trip here goes and how you think things have changed since you were here last.

As for me, I'm finally moving on....

[BangBoy123]

(01-19-2019 11:15 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

(01-18-2019 10:25 AM)Eddie Morra Wrote:  

And your point is? Anything constructive to add besides conjecture? "decent looking guys still doing well in Ukraine..." Uh yeah....Decent looking guys should be doing well anywhere....."Ukrainian girls were never throwing themselves at average foreigners." Never said they did. "The nightlife was never that great either..." I said decent, especially given the ratios, I didn't say great.

"So you could laugh at someone who was smashing it in 2008, but he could've been doing a lot better than someone in 2001" I laugh because the same guys who said they were smashing it in 2008, 2012 etc. are the same ones who complain today that Ukraine's changed.

You could even argue that people tend to claim that their first trip someplace where they smashed it, had a great time etc. was the best time to be there. Then they end up going back subsequent times and it's like the law of diminishing returns. People and places do change and that's a part of life...

I still stand by my statement that Ukraine was as close to pussy paradise as anywhere could be before 2005, Pre-Orange Revolution. I had actually backed up my claim with facts.

Maybe if you post something a little more helpful you'd get Rep point.....

I went to Ukraine my first time in 2004 and have to agree 100% with Eddie Morra. It was super easy. Most girls didn't have jobs. I had girls calling me, and more girls to date than time to take them out. On one day I had 4 dates because there were so many. That's how good it was. The quality was super high and I had several beauties interested in me. I went back to Kiev again in Dec 2005 and the economy had improved in the preceding 18 months. Girls had jobs and flaked, and I actually had days without dates. I went back in 2006, it was even worse. I had to take out 18 girls to get my first lay. I lived in Ukraine that year and had a very pretty Ukrainian girlfriend in Kharkov and was able to have other girls too. I haven't been back since, but I have heard from people who've been there since that after the economic collapse that things are good again there. I hope to get back next year to see for myself.

Yes, there were no smartphones in 2004. Girls weren't actively trolling the internet then for sponsors. They had to meet men in person. You needed a Visa to go to the Ukraine then and their were no discount airlines flying to Ukraine. So if you were on the ground, you had the girls. Age didn't matter. Older in many ways was better because they saw you as established, stable, and having money. I could go on, but I remember Emailing home that "I'm dating my first 10 and she is half my age."

I had similar results in 2010-14, could have countless dates per day.

Uhhh...the economic collapse has made things WAY WORSE not better!

Shit loads of Ukrainian women have left the country to find work
Cheaper prices means any scumbag can fork out 10 euros for a ryanair flight.
Nightlife has taken a swandive(it was never that great) because people don't have the disposable income for such things, men and women.

Quote:

I haven't been back since, but I have heard from people who've been there since that after the economic collapse that things are good again there. I hope to get back next year to see for myself.

Fcuk me you're in for a shock, maybe better not to return at all, preserve the positive memories!!

[Bain]

(01-19-2019 02:20 PM)NextStop100 Wrote:  

Mexico City two years ago. Banged 7 Mexicanas in 6 days.

Could likely repeat but forum reports seem to indicate things are changing over there

I was there one year ago for a month - Janauary 2018 - and it was terrible.
Smart phone again the culprit.

Amazing how fast things can change.

[Belgrano]

(01-18-2019 03:44 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  

I see early 2000s were a good time for Asia and Eastern Europe well I’m sure men who went there in the 1990s would scoff at that idea. Men who went there in the 1980s would say the same as well.

I once met an old Dutch man.
He came from nothing and moved to SEA as a teenager in the 1960s to work for a Western company, and then spent the 70s and 80s rising through the ranks and becoming an executive, mostly based in Indonesia, but also traveling all around the region for work.
Suffice to say that he had a lot of fun. It was a good time to be a blond, blue-eyed giant who spoke the language and had lots of money to throw around.

Then, when he was finally ready to settle down, he married a pretty young girl from a rich, and I mean really rich and well connected local family.

Fucking boomer!

I think young guys like us don't even grasp the true meaning of "pussy paradise".

[Obsessive Fragrances]

To those who have been to both... how would you compare Colombia and Mexico in terms of amount of online dates (no single moms, no dark girls from the slums)? And between Mexico and Peru?