[Atlanta Man]

I disagree with your analogy. I guess this is one area where we shall not have consensus- nothing but respect for the dead and sorrow for the victim this way. I will leave that as my contribution.

[jeffreyjerpp]

This whole thing reminds me of nude selfies and "revenge porn" laws.

Young women take naked pictures, send them to random guys, sometimes to guys they have never even met. When the photos inevitably get passed around, or posted online, everyone cries foul, and special "revenge porn" laws are invoked to punish the evil men involved.

No one dares point out that if women are giving naked pictures to men, those men should be free to do whatever they want with them, unless there is a legal contract specifying otherwise. This is the basic nature of giving someone any sort of property, even intellectual property and art. Furthermore, if you really don't want anyone to see your naked body, probably the single stupidest thing you could do is take pictures of it and send them to people. The ensuing humiliation is simply the price of individual accountability, which is the price we pay to live in a free society in the first place.

The entire legal system, and basic rational thinking, get tossed out the window to facilitate reckless and stupid behavior by women, and society is much worse off for it.

[Repo]

(10-26-2018 01:51 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 12:52 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I do not know her intentions at the onset of the relationship, but I sure as hell know her intentions at the end - she called the cops , told him to stay away, and actively avoided him. She did not walk around with a mattress, make a Facebook post, or go to Twitter- she went straight to the cops.

It is hard for the average 21 year old to account for a psychopath- but she did everything right once she became aware of his background. She did not have this coming, she did not deserve this.

This is kind of like saying she did everything right to avoid sharks, after jumping in a shark tank because her feminist friends said it would be empowering.

This was a tragedy, and this young woman did nothing to deserve being murdered. However, had she been more responsible about vetting guys before getting into bed with them, she wouldn't have had anything to do with a dangerous sex criminal.

I get the sympathy for the young woman. I did significantly dumber stuff than have reckless sex when young. I once jumped off the roof of a house to fall 50 feet into a river, for example. So I am not on a high horse here.

But young women today are arrogant, reckless, and naive. They're ultra irresponsibe, and DEMAND that other people (mostly male taxpayers) pay to make their lifestyle feasible. Free birth control, govt funded abortions, special programs for women in education and corporations, special police officers to help them with fake #MeToo allegations, etc.

So saying this woman, and women in general, should have to accept some responsibility when their bad choices catch up with them makes perfect sense. Like children, they need supervisors to punish or correct their bad behaviors, because they aren't mature enough to do it on their own. The single motherhood epidemic is prime evidence of this.

So, boo hoo about this poor girl all you want. What happened is sad. But sometimes the only way to stop things like this from happening is tough love.

Do you provide every woman you date with a criminal background check before you sleep with them? Because that's what your saying she should have done.

This is just giving ammo to feminists to shoot you with. "Us guys can be dangerous and rape you, so you should always run a background check and dig into our past before dating us".

May as well go full Sharia and ban them from showing skin in case one of us gets an uncontrollable urge to rape or murder too. Its a good thing that she got the tough love she needed, getting murdered and all, bet she wont make that mistake again!

I think most of us can guess what you think the real danger is though.

Anyway, I look forward to your future where every one of us is forced to carry papers proving we wont rape or murder women. They will fold nearly under the "consent to sex" form I carry in my wallet.

[Disco_Volante]

How are modern fathers rationalizing their daughters having agency yet still needing protection and guidance? Those old puritan rules of arranged or heavily screened dating, chaperones etc seem to make the most sense. Rape was considered a crime against the father.
All their new "liberations" require heavy government intervention and horsehsit rules because girls can't handle the consequences of the dating market. They can't get around the biology that womens' sex is a more valuable target, combined with their irrationality, shouldn't be making their own decisions.

Maybe her father and mollie tibbett's father can get together and be proud of the strong independent feminists they raised. This won't last long though, once we get latino-majority at least the girls will have her hermanos and primos will roll up and kill the motherfucker who rapes her.

[Johnnyvee]

(10-26-2018 02:19 PM)Repo Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 01:51 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 12:52 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

I do not know her intentions at the onset of the relationship, but I sure as hell know her intentions at the end - she called the cops , told him to stay away, and actively avoided him. She did not walk around with a mattress, make a Facebook post, or go to Twitter- she went straight to the cops.

It is hard for the average 21 year old to account for a psychopath- but she did everything right once she became aware of his background. She did not have this coming, she did not deserve this.

This is kind of like saying she did everything right to avoid sharks, after jumping in a shark tank because her feminist friends said it would be empowering.

This was a tragedy, and this young woman did nothing to deserve being murdered. However, had she been more responsible about vetting guys before getting into bed with them, she wouldn't have had anything to do with a dangerous sex criminal.

I get the sympathy for the young woman. I did significantly dumber stuff than have reckless sex when young. I once jumped off the roof of a house to fall 50 feet into a river, for example. So I am not on a high horse here.

But young women today are arrogant, reckless, and naive. They're ultra irresponsibe, and DEMAND that other people (mostly male taxpayers) pay to make their lifestyle feasible. Free birth control, govt funded abortions, special programs for women in education and corporations, special police officers to help them with fake #MeToo allegations, etc.

So saying this woman, and women in general, should have to accept some responsibility when their bad choices catch up with them makes perfect sense. Like children, they need supervisors to punish or correct their bad behaviors, because they aren't mature enough to do it on their own. The single motherhood epidemic is prime evidence of this.

So, boo hoo about this poor girl all you want. What happened is sad. But sometimes the only way to stop things like this from happening is tough love.

Do you provide every woman you date with a criminal background check before you sleep with them? Because that's what your saying she should have done.

This is just giving ammo to feminists to shoot you with. "Us guys can be dangerous and rape you, so you should always run a background check and dig into our past before dating us".

May as well go full Sharia and ban them from showing skin in case one of us gets an uncontrollable urge to rape or murder too. Its a good thing that she got the tough love she needed, getting murdered and all, bet she wont make that mistake again!

I think most of us can guess what you think the real danger is though.

Anyway, I look forward to your future where every one of us is forced to carry papers proving we wont rape or murder women. They will fold nearly under the "consent to sex" form I carry in my wallet.

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

[Jetset]

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

[Atlanta Man]

I am all ears on this as well

[Johnnyvee]

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

Also to be frank, I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. That`s my honest assessment.

Shouldn`t woman show due diligence? Don`t "liberated" women also have agency? Is this the Jezebel comment section all of a sudden

[kaotic]

(10-26-2018 02:42 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

Also to be frank, I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. That`s my honest assessment.

Shouldn`t woman show due diligence? Don`t "liberated" women also have agency? Is this the Jezebel comment section all of a sudden

Bro just come out and say it, she was a "coalburner" playing with "fire" a black dude for the thrill and she got what she deserved to get shot for not staying in her own lane with her own race.

Don't worry, she's learned her lesson.

Like I've said before, it's painfully clear who actually interacts with alot of women and undestands concepts in game, and who spends too much time on the internet. Posting history doesn't lie.

[Jetset]

(10-26-2018 02:42 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

OK, I'm gonna ask you to open the photo in Paint and mark up these various features and expressions for us. This is valuable information and I think we'd all like to see it.

You know, to identify these potential threats.

[Thot Leader]

(10-26-2018 03:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Bro just come out and say it, she was a "coalburner" playing with "fire" a black dude for the thrill and she got what she deserved to get shot for not staying in her own lane with her own race.

Don't worry, she's learned her lesson.

Like I've said before, it's painfully clear who actually interacts with alot of women and undestands concepts in game, and who spends too much time on the internet. Posting history doesn't lie.

Why can't a person have done both? The idea that women are susceptible to game/predation mainly due to the decline of traditionalism and the removal of fathers' influence from their daughters' lives is an idea I recall Roosh himself having espoused.

[Thot Leader]

Also, all the guys saying "imagine if the genders were reversed, then you'll realize a man could fall victim to this sort of crazy" seem to be ignoring Briffault's law. It is women that choose men, not the other way around; therefore a woman has on average far more options than a man would have. Are we to believe this pretty, educated 21 y/o didn't have a ton of other dating options? She most certainly had the option of dating dozens (if not hundreds) of non psychopathic men.

EDIT:

(10-26-2018 03:32 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:42 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

OK, I'm gonna ask you to open the photo in Paint and mark up these various features and expressions for us. This is valuable information and I think we'd all like to see it.

You know, to identify these potential threats.

Violent people have a certain vibe about them, anyone with basic street smarts can pick up on it. And to the people saying "yeah well 21 year olds don't have street smarts" I say, bullshit. We all know that 1) Women's peak emotional maturity comes at a young age; 2) Evolution has made women highly attuned to male character; 3) Women are attracted to violent men.

[debeguiled]

Johnnyvee be like:

[Oak]

The one thing I know from my limited experience with hot american girls is they need rock-solid pimp game. I am certain this guy's psychopathy is precisely what made him attractive to her.

I don't understand the soft-whiteknighting here. The abundance of options presented to an average looking american white girl makes their selection criteria pretty inexcusable. This girl would have had thousands of dudes wanting to date her. Good men with higher status and better looks than her. She didn't choose the engineering student, the pre-med, the local older professionals. She chose the random enigmatic ZFG dude with 10/10 psychopath game.

If a billionaire picks an old 1940s british sportscar with no maintenance record over the hundreds of brand new german or japanese models available, they don't deserve to die in an accident. But they have to take some responsibility for taking that risk.

And why are american girls studying 'communication'? They communicate way too much as it is. If I ran that course i would get them to memorize the line from hamlet 'give every man thy ears but few thy lips' and tell them to turn the volume down by 50%. Course over. Here's your degree.

[Repo]

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

[Johnnyvee]

(10-26-2018 03:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:42 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

Also to be frank, I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. That`s my honest assessment.

Shouldn`t woman show due diligence? Don`t "liberated" women also have agency? Is this the Jezebel comment section all of a sudden

Bro just come out and say it, she was a "coalburner" playing with "fire" a black dude for the thrill and she got what she deserved to get shot for not staying in her own lane with her own race.

Don't worry, she's learned her lesson.

Like I've said before, it's painfully clear who actually interacts with alot of women and undestands concepts in game, and who spends too much time on the internet. Posting history doesn't lie.

Well, I specifically wrote that I don`t belive in the deserve/justice concept a few posts back. I`m just saying that she took a risk that she also was aware of, at some level. She got the tingles from a bad boy in other words, and they aren`t restricted to black ethnicity of course. However it (black guy) might add something to the thrill of the affair, for a relatively Conservative (it seems) background white girl.

I`ve never claimed to be a game expert, but I do know a thing or two about biology, and the way men and women function at that more fundamental level. I know I`m not always making friends either sticking with the raw and untainted realities of life, even though ROK usually hosts more reality oriented guys. But anyway, that`s just the way I am.

[Johnnyvee]

(10-26-2018 05:43 PM)Repo Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

   

[kaotic]

(10-26-2018 05:47 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 03:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:42 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:24 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

So you`re saying she had no idea whatsoever as to his persona? I find that very hard to believe! I think she played with fire deliberately to get a thrill.

I'm listening.

Based on what?

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

Also to be frank, I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. That`s my honest assessment.

Shouldn`t woman show due diligence? Don`t "liberated" women also have agency? Is this the Jezebel comment section all of a sudden

Bro just come out and say it, she was a "coalburner" playing with "fire" a black dude for the thrill and she got what she deserved to get shot for not staying in her own lane with her own race.

Don't worry, she's learned her lesson.

Like I've said before, it's painfully clear who actually interacts with alot of women and undestands concepts in game, and who spends too much time on the internet. Posting history doesn't lie.

Well, I specifically wrote that I don`t belive in the deserve/justice concept a few posts back. I`m just saying that she took a risk that she also was aware of, at some level. She got the tingles from a bad boy in other words, and they aren`t restricted to black ethnicity of course. However it (black guy) might add something to the thrill of the affair, for a relatively Conservative (it seems) background white girl.

I`ve never claimed to be a game expert, but I do know a thing or two about biology, and the way men and women function at that more fundamental level. I know I`m not always making friends either sticking with raw and untainted realities of life, even though ROK usually hosts more reality oriented guys. But anyway, that`s just the way I am.

Nah now you're backtracking.

You specifically said "certain traits" aka "aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc." then linked that to "I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. "

"Raw untainted realities" of life is pure posturing on the internet and discussing theories versus actual reality of gaming and banging girls.

Like I said before, the guys always talking like this I never see in the game section commenting or giving advice.

There's a reason there's not much overlay between ROK commenters and forum posters.

If you think "sleeping with a black guy for the rough sex" then you don't fuck, or mediocre at best. (This is the fantasy of someone who watches way too much interracial BBC porn)

You want to talk biology? ALL women want rough sex, all chicks want to be fucked hard and put away wet. It's not some "trait" for black men.

ALL women want to be dominated in the bedroom, girls aren't just chasing black men for this.



The only thing I'll agree with you on is risk.

We ALL take risks fucking the opposite sex, we all can try and filter as best we can, but even the most seasoned players can get burned, that's a fact.

Sharing nudes and being blackmailed for them is stupid, yeah that risk could of been avoided.

Besides being a smooth talking murderous psychopath we have no idea what else this dude was about or what he did to get her in bed.

She did everything right after she found out who he really was.


I'm with Aurini on this, this is a case of normal vs psycho.

[Johnnyvee]

(10-26-2018 06:02 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 05:47 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 03:22 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:42 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

(10-26-2018 02:25 PM)Jetset Wrote:  

I'm listening.

Based on what?

Well, based on the single photo that I`ve seen, I would make the assessment that this guy could be a potential threat. (Not that I fear any man, but I would act accordingly.) I`m not saying that because he`s black mind you, but there are certain traits that you can recognize that comes with an aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc.

Also to be frank, I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. That`s my honest assessment.

Shouldn`t woman show due diligence? Don`t "liberated" women also have agency? Is this the Jezebel comment section all of a sudden

Bro just come out and say it, she was a "coalburner" playing with "fire" a black dude for the thrill and she got what she deserved to get shot for not staying in her own lane with her own race.

Don't worry, she's learned her lesson.

Like I've said before, it's painfully clear who actually interacts with alot of women and undestands concepts in game, and who spends too much time on the internet. Posting history doesn't lie.

Well, I specifically wrote that I don`t belive in the deserve/justice concept a few posts back. I`m just saying that she took a risk that she also was aware of, at some level. She got the tingles from a bad boy in other words, and they aren`t restricted to black ethnicity of course. However it (black guy) might add something to the thrill of the affair, for a relatively Conservative (it seems) background white girl.

I`ve never claimed to be a game expert, but I do know a thing or two about biology, and the way men and women function at that more fundamental level. I know I`m not always making friends either sticking with raw and untainted realities of life, even though ROK usually hosts more reality oriented guys. But anyway, that`s just the way I am.

Nah now you're backtracking.

You specifically said "certain traits" aka "aggressive, volatile nature. Physical features, expressions etc." then linked that to "I do believe that a young white college woman that sleeps with a black guy with those traits does so for the rough sex mostly. "

"Raw untainted realities" of life is pure posturing on the internet and discussing theories versus actual reality of gaming and banging girls.

Like I said before, the guys always talking like this I never see in the game section commenting or giving advice.

There's a reason there's not much overlay between ROK commenters and forum posters.

If you think "sleeping with a black guy for the rough sex" then you don't fuck, or mediocre at best. (This is the fantasy of someone who watches way too much interracial BBC porn)

You want to talk biology? ALL women want rough sex, all chicks want to be fucked hard and put away wet. It's not some "trait" for black men.

ALL women want to be dominated in the bedroom, girls aren't just chasing black men for this.



The only thing I'll agree with you on is risk.

We ALL take risks fucking the opposite sex, we all can try and filter as best we can, but even the most seasoned players can get burned, that's a fact.

Sharing nudes and being blackmailed for them is stupid, yeah that risk could of been avoided.

Besides being a smooth talking murderous psychopath we have no idea what else this dude was about or what he did to get her in bed.

She did everything right after she found out who he really was.


I'm with Aurini on this, this is a case of normal vs psycho.

-"black guy with those traits"
Does not equal all black guys. But as I said, the taboo etc. might add something to it. No backtracking there pal.

-"Raw untainted realities"=evolution, struggle for survival vs. delusions derived from religion/ideology. My background is from biology as I said. That`s how I see it, not posturing.

-Not saying white women chase only black guys for rough sex. I did specify that also. But I honestly belive that white women will seek out black guys only for rough sex, not beta provision. (ham-beasts excluded)

-"She did everything right after she found out who he really was."

This is where I respectfully (totally) disagree. I think she could tell he was high risk, and she gave in because...tingles.

[kaotic]

Come on man, you're still backtracking, it's pretty plain to see what you were trying to say in my original reply to you about interracial relations.

If you think white women will only seek blacks guys out "ONLY" for rough sex, then your views are misguided, skewed, and shows your lack of experience with game and women. Check out the Black Man Game Thread for more insight.



Like I said yes there's risk, and I do agree gina tingles throws woman's thinking out the window, this chick seem like she had her shit together, so who knows what this loser did to bed her.

We'll agree to disagree on the rest.

[Johnnyvee]

(10-26-2018 06:36 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

Come on man, you're still backtracking, it's pretty plain to see what you were trying to say in my original reply to you about interracial relations.

If you think white women will only seek blacks guys out "ONLY" for rough sex, then your views are misguided, skewed, and shows your lack of experience with game and women. Check out the Black Man Game Thread for more insight.



Like I said yes there's risk, and I do agree gina tingles throws woman's thinking out the window, this chick seem like she had her shit together, so who knows what this loser did to bed her.

We'll agree to disagree on the rest.

Fair enough!

But I can`t see how I`m backtracking to be honest. I`ve never denied that there is a sexual tension there, based on the taboo on interracial relationships. But I don`t think she would be interested if the guy looked like Carlton from Fresh Prince so to speak.

I can`t recall observing many interracial stable relationships either, with white women and black men that have similar SMV. Although things might be different in the US. But as far as Europe and Scandinavia goes, this is definitely not the case.

[Thot Leader]

(10-26-2018 07:08 PM)Johnnyvee Wrote:  

But I can`t see how I`m backtracking to be honest. I`ve never denied that there is a sexual tension there, based on the taboo on interracial relationships. But I don`t think she would be interested if the guy looked like Carlton from Fresh Prince so to speak.

I can`t recall observing many interracial stable relationships either, with white women and black men that have similar SMV. Although things might be different in the US. But as far as Europe and Scandinavia goes, this is definitely not the case.

What taboo? The mainstream media forces interracial dating down our throats (no pun intended).

Also, since you brought it up, it turns out black man-white woman marriages are the least stable of any pairing next to black-black:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracia...ce_couples

[jeffreyjerpp]

(10-26-2018 02:19 PM)Repo Wrote:  

This is just giving ammo to feminists to shoot you with. "Us guys can be dangerous and rape you, so you should always run a background check and dig into our past before dating us".

May as well go full Sharia and ban them from showing skin in case one of us gets an uncontrollable urge to rape or murder too. Its a good thing that she got the tough love she needed, getting murdered and all, bet she wont make that mistake again!

I think most of us can guess what you think the real danger is though.

Anyway, I look forward to your future where every one of us is forced to carry papers proving we wont rape or murder women. They will fold nearly under the "consent to sex" form I carry in my wallet.

You do realize that if this young woman HAD run a background check, she would still be alive, right? A secret sociopath sex predator murdered a young woman after luring her into a relationship with lies, and your reaction is "background checks are dumb and girls shouldn't do them". A baffling and possibly hilarious choice of argument given what we're discussing here.

Dating and sex are vastly more dangerous for women than men. This is reality, and saying it out loud is not "giving ammo to feminists". It is the opposite. It undermines core feminist arguments about women being "strong" and "independent". Since women are neither, they should be exceedingly choosy and careful about who they sleep with, and if not, be held responsible for the consequences of risky behavior.

That is my core argument here. Our society gives women the right to do almost anything they want. Yet we have a blue pilled tendency to not hold them responsible for the consequences of exercising those rights.

Women have the right to hookup with anyone at any time. They can binge drink and go skydiving if they want. But they are responsible for any outcomes that come from exercising those rights, and deserve sympathy and scrutiny in equal parts.

PS: I have to LOL at the implication that my "real problem" is black dudes. Incorrect. Typically black dudes are way more red pilled about women than white guys are.

[jeffreyjerpp]

(10-26-2018 06:02 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

She did everything right after she found out who he really was.

This is a shorthand way of saying she did everything right, except the single most important thing of all.

I love game. I love the fact that I can go out and bang chicks the same night as meeting them. As a man, that is a great recreational pleasure, and I am happy I live in a time where I can sleep with many dozens of girls in my life, as opposed to one.

But....

Jumping into bed with someone before you know them is very risky and historically unprecedented, especially for a 21 yr old woman in the USA.

We just think it's normal because society has become degenerate, and can partly insulate us from the risks we would otherwise be exposed to. Condoms, birth control, plan B, etc, have lulled us into thinking sex is "no big deal".

It actually is a big deal, especially for women, since despite modern advancements, sleeping with any man still exposes them to a ton of risk. For example, they could start sleeping with a guy, ONLY TO FIND OUT HE'S A VIOLENT PSYCHOPATH AFTER A COUPLE WEEKS. They could get pregnant, raped, etc.

If you actually care about young woman, you would want them to be aware of the risks, and behave accordingly, knowing that they will suffer the consequences (ridicule, physical harm, nude pics on the internet, etc) if they make poor choices.

[RDF]

(10-26-2018 08:14 PM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  

You do realize that if this young woman HAD run a background check, she would still be alive, right?

Have you ever actually had a chick run a background check on you? Do you expect any chick who you're dating or fucking for a few weeks to run one on you?

Not sure if you're serious or trolling.

Yeah, dating and one night stands have risks. Just like everything in life. But you have to take into account the chance of the risk. If you go for a walk and get run over by a drunk driver, are you responsible for it because you chose to talk a walk?

Technically you have a one in a million chance of dying each time you cross the street. So it's your fault, you chose to take the risk. Right?

Getting an STD or getting pregnant are real risks of our quick and easy sex culture that women should consider. Getting fucking murdered shouldn't be taken into the calculation.

Rest in Peace.