[quaker13]

My vote goes to Physicians. Physicians are generally very smart driven yet still nurturing. They often don't have that gutwrenching arrogance that lawyers and high level consultants have.

2nd up I would cast my vote for engineers, cpa's and pharmacists. All generally very pleasant and boring.

Nurses, teachers and government workers are nice in terms of personality, but sometimes they aren't quite as polished as they should be if you are in fact looking for a career woman specifically.

[Kid Twist]

Generally it's similar to the prettiest of 3 ugly sisters. They get locked into huge debt then of course want to work only part time when they finish. That's good for 1 kid, at best. Any parent should just tell his female child to be a nurse or PA. Youd save her a lot of angst and make a far better wife/mother.

[OCZ]

Girls in social sciences/arts in general are very pleasant in the sexual way but they tend to be the more feminsit-progressive minded of them all. They are usually interesting and you can have a decent conversation with them, but the majority of them are fucked up a little in the head so I will not recommned them for LTR.

Girls in the health sector are usually pleasant and can be interesting as well. I think they are a good choice for dating, but they have fucked up hours sometimes.
Girls in finanace and engineering if they are not crazy about their career they can make good partners and usually stable.

All this opinions are just my personal experience.

[General Stalin]

(10-25-2018 09:15 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

My vote goes to Physicians. Physicians are generally very smart driven yet still nurturing. They often don't have that gutwrenching arrogance that lawyers and high level consultants have.

2nd up I would cast my vote for engineers, cpa's and pharmacists. All generally very pleasant and boring.

Nurses, teachers and government workers are nice in terms of personality, but sometimes they aren't quite as polished as they should be if you are in fact looking for a career woman specifically.

Hard disagree. Any career that requires tons of schooling, is demanding, very technical, and/or puts a woman in a position of authority over other adults is not great.

Jobs that breed the most pleasant women are ones that play off of their feminine nature i.e. teaching (young children), baby sitting, house making, and generally taking care of others so long as it's not a stressful environment (example - nursing is not great, but dental hygiene is better). White collar jobs that I think are great for pleasant and feminine women would be office assistants/front desk positions.

[Mess O.]

^^ Definitely onboard tha' shi'.

[Hypno]

What the General said.

Teachers, caregivers, also arists and performers but that skews more slutty and adventurous than pleasant.

[quaker13]

What the general said makes all the sense in the world, however, I myself am not cool with the idea of being a provider in the current environment. My current wife and my last girlfriend all made significantly more money than me. Now this isn't a requirement for marriage, but I do require a woman to bring significant resources to the table. The definition of significant, adding to my lifestyle not taking away. I make a 150k a year if i were single and looking the woman I date would at least have to bring in 100k if not 150k. I like nice shit, very nice shit and a woman making 50k to my 150k simply won't be enough for me to live my desired lifestyle. That's why i emphasized physicians. Worst case scenario, if i get a divorce we split half and i get some alimony which i likely wouldn't take because im not a bitch. I'd rather be in this position and have to deal with a little masculinity than to have a woman completely reliant on me all the while trying to slowly gain hand in the relationship. All my friends who are married make more money than their wives and don't have prenupts. It's retarded.

[The Golden God]

If her profession is something where she has to be political and competitive, she's 9 times out of 10 going to be an absolute pain in the ass. Girls in law, sales or other typically male dominated fields have to be low in agreeableness to succeed.

Low agreeableness = NOT a good prospect for LTR

Another factor that I think plays into these competitive professional girls being less fun to be around is the fact that they are most likely used to being viewed as special for being one of the few women in their field. I believe this leads them to become more comfortable with being supported for the mere fact of having a vagina and they expect preferential treatment.

These types can be fun to mess around with as they're usually pretty high energy and exciting but overall... Don't expect too much.

On the other hand, I have noticed female doctors and engineers who do not have politically demanding jobs are laid back AND intelligent.

[EndsExpect]

(10-25-2018 09:15 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

My vote goes to Physicians. Physicians are generally very smart driven yet still nurturing. They often don't have that gutwrenching arrogance that lawyers and high level consultants have.
2nd up I would cast my ote for engineers, cpa's and pharmacists. All generally very pleasant and boring.
Nurses, teachers and government workers are nice in terms of personality, but sometimes they aren't quite as polished as they should be if you are in fact looking for a career woman specifically.

Physicians? You can't be serious! Let me first say that I know physicians very well because I work with physicians every damn day as a sales rep. It's my job to manipulate them into buying my shit.

First off, to be a physician you have to work super hard. It tends to attract nerdy girls who are ugly ducklings in their youth. You don't see beauty queens as physicians very often. Second point... they get trained to be unemotional and rational not caring and loving. Third point... they are in positions of authority and hypergamy pushes them to date/marry high status dudes.

I'm not going to say that there aren't some awesome women who are physicians, but I'm going to be flat out and say that most of the good one are Asian.

Careers that attract higher quality women. Housewife. Child Care. Customer Service. Administrative Assistants. HR.

Avoid public school teachers at all costs. These bitches are crazy as fuck. Also, my experience with Nurses... God Bless them but they cheat A LOT. To make it worse, if a nurse isn't cheating on her husband... then she is cheating on her diet. It's that simple my friends.

[quaker13]

(10-25-2018 01:22 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(10-25-2018 09:15 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

My vote goes to Physicians. Physicians are generally very smart driven yet still nurturing. They often don't have that gutwrenching arrogance that lawyers and high level consultants have.
2nd up I would cast my ote for engineers, cpa's and pharmacists. All generally very pleasant and boring.
Nurses, teachers and government workers are nice in terms of personality, but sometimes they aren't quite as polished as they should be if you are in fact looking for a career woman specifically.

Physicians? You can't be serious! Let me first say that I know physicians very well because I work with physicians every damn day as a sales rep. It's my job to manipulate them into buying my shit.

First off, to be a physician you have to work super hard. It tends to attract nerdy girls who are ugly ducklings in their youth. You don't see beauty queens as physicians very often. Second point... they get trained to be unemotional and rational not caring and loving. Third point... they are in positions of authority and hypergamy pushes them to date/marry high status dudes.

I'm not going to say that there aren't some awesome women who are physicians, but I'm going to be flat out and say that most of the good one are Asian.

Careers that attract higher quality women. Housewife. Child Care. Customer Service. Administrative Assistants. HR.

Avoid public school teachers at all costs. These bitches are crazy as fuck. Also, my experience with Nurses... God Bless them but they cheat A LOT. To make it worse, if a nurse isn't cheating on her husband... then she is cheating on her diet. It's that simple my friends.

Because my last girlfriend was a physician i can speak from experience. Obviously, if you are in sales you've had way more experience than me, but nonetheless ive been in a relationship with one and met her physician friends and am good friends with a lot the husbands i met through her friends. Some of the guys are push overs beta pussies and some aren't.

My ex was ugly duckling that glowed up. So maybe that was the reason. Despite all that, I still have no desire to be any woman's provider and men on this site shouldn't either. Bring something to the table besides your pussy bitch.

[Hypno]

Quaker I hear you but if you want a successful relationship you need to wear the pants. There are no shortcut s.

[Dodgy]

In my experience:

Marketing and Advertising. I've dated some girls who worked in these fields and they were alright, girls are generally as hot as pharma sales rep gals, but the work isn't as competitive and you don't have to be very intelligent to do it. In fact, I still don't know what marketing and advertising agencies do on the day-to-day, and I've hired a few over the past couple of years.

Real Estate. This may vary from girl to girl, but I've found girls who worked in real estate to be generally pleasant, especially residential realtors. The only bitches I encountered were in big money commercial real estate development, but that's the most competitive area of real estate so that's no surprise.

Public Relations/Promotions. I may not be defining this position correctly, but I've met many hot and non-cunty girls who did promotions or public relations for a company. Basically these girls represent the company at trade shows, industry events, etc. and are generally the first faces you meet before you're passed to the sales rep or manager if you want to engage the company.

Other careers are traditional girl driven like fashion, not high NYC fashion, but working as a buyer for a regional Macy's or Nordstroms, or selling shoes at Nordstoms (they actually make good money), or working in fashion design for small brands.

[gework]

Most: Pro-life youth coordinator:



Worst: Baby body parts trafficker:

[Diop]

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet - Veterinarians. I've casually dated a couple of them before and I found them to be honest, empathetic, and very pleasant to be around, although they tend to work very long and sometimes crazy hours. They also make very good money but don't seem to have the entitled attitude that female doctors, lawyers, etc. sometimes carry. One of my good friends just got engaged to a Veterinarian and she's as close to a unicorn as he could possibly get (she's also a good looking curvy Brazilian chica, which never hurts).

A possible downside is that they usually have multiple dogs/cats as pets which can be a bit annoying if that's not your thing, but it never bothered me all that much.

[General Stalin]

OP wants a woman who is a financial and professional equal. Have fun with that.



I don't like to speak for other people, but I'd like to impress upon you and everyone else reading this that as a man - you're financial stability and lifestyle should never need to be supplemented by a woman's income.

[RatInTheWoods]

(10-25-2018 09:27 AM)OCZ Wrote:  

Girls in social sciences/arts in general are very pleasant in the sexual way but they tend to be the more feminsit-progressive minded of them all. They are usually interesting and you can have a decent conversation with them, but the majority of them are fucked up a little in the head so I will not recommned them for LTR.

Man this describes my main down to a t

I have a weakness for artsie chicks, but they all lazy leftists with no idea about life.

But hot.

[Lance Blastoff]

I'd say that nursing is probably the best profession - no exaggerated sense of entitlement, but smart and organized enough to be trusted with needles and pills. Nurses can make good money and can work both full and part time.

I dated a 32 year old anesthesia nurse. She made $250k/year +hospital pensions. Worked three days a week and sucked dick like she made it up. Little chubby at times from eating too many donuts in the break room.

I dated a 34 year old gynecological oncologist who was also a surgeon. She made $450k a year + pension and probably would make over a million if she lived in Kansas. Boring, cold fish with lousy social skills who fucked like she was passed out. Constantly had to cancel on me at the last minute because of surgeries / speaking engagements / etc. Excellent shape though - yoga 5x a week and only ate healthy.

I only think about the nurse sometimes.

[Lance Blastoff]

(10-25-2018 02:16 PM)Diop Wrote:  

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet - Veterinarians. I've casually dated a couple of them before and I found them to be honest, empathetic, and very pleasant to be around, although they tend to work very long and sometimes crazy hours. They also make very good money but don't seem to have the entitled attitude that female doctors, lawyers, etc. sometimes carry. One of my good friends just got engaged to a Veterinarian and she's as close to a unicorn as he could possibly get (she's also a good looking curvy Brazilian chica, which never hurts).

A possible downside is that they usually have multiple dogs/cats as pets which can be a bit annoying if that's not your thing, but it never bothered me all that much.

I knew this chick who was a total loser - journalism major in college. After a couple of years working in a Vet's office she went to vet school. Became VERY stuck up. Wouldn't stop referring to herself as "a doctor".

[Tiger Man]

The issue I am having is "which group of career woman are the most pleasant". How are we defining a career? I wouldn't call receptionist a career, but I would bet that most receptionists in a finance operation would outrank the pantsuits in pleasantness.

So, I'm just going with what I have gathered from personal experience. I have found the highest amount of pleasantness (femininity, congeniality, and the rest) in women who are working in small (usually family) operations or small time self-employed.

So, girls who work as receptionist for the family auction business. Or, night audit for the family hotel.

Or, girls who run an independent bookkeeping/accounting operation. Tax and immigration consultants (small). Assessors. I would class with these girls the ones who make their own creative stuff and sell it (usually online - Etsy and that sort of thing).

With all that said, I can't discount the possibility that these are cases of the circumstances making the woman. Most of these types don't work in political/corporate environments. They aren't surrounded by BSD Alpha Chads all day long (law firms, Drs, finance). And, in many cases, they are either alone most of the time or surrounded by family. I think that tends to keep them in check.

My .02.

[notmyrealname]

Girls who assist a male doctor or dentist in his private practice will very likely eventually be propositioned and will either get sexual to keep their job or quit. They probably will and won’t tell their husband about it.

Imagine a married woman dental hygienist is alone with a male dentist working on patients. They develop a working relationship and inside jokes, which eventually becomes chemistry. There is a hot young woman moving around the guy all day in different positions and laughing at his jokes. The guy gets tempted. The girl gets tempted. They resist their urges for a while, but it is hard to resist a temptation in front of you 40 hours a week. One day, they’re alone. He makes a move. All she has to do is not object.

Make sure she is working either in a hospital or a private practice of a female doctor or dentist.

[OCZ]

(10-25-2018 04:04 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

(10-25-2018 09:27 AM)OCZ Wrote:  

Girls in social sciences/arts in general are very pleasant in the sexual way but they tend to be the more feminsit-progressive minded of them all. They are usually interesting and you can have a decent conversation with them, but the majority of them are fucked up a little in the head so I will not recommned them for LTR.

Man this describes my main down to a t

I have a weakness for artsie chicks, but they all lazy leftists with no idea about life.

But hot.

I know man. I have been struggling hard with those kind of girls. It also because they match many of the characteristics of the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl" , but at the end they are crazy and completely extremely progressive brainwashed. Still crazy always mean crazy sex and that is kind of got hahaha.

Returning to the topic. As I said before girls in the health sector are the ones I will go to, but also school teacher will prove as good. Any girl working in a very agressive/corporate environment with all the Chads walking around, would probable not be worth for something serious in the long run.

[quaker13]

(10-26-2018 01:03 AM)notmyrealname Wrote:  

Girls who assist a male doctor or dentist in his private practice will very likely eventually be propositioned and will either get sexual to keep their job or quit. They probably will and won’t tell their husband about it.

Imagine a married woman dental hygienist is alone with a male dentist working on patients. They develop a working relationship and inside jokes, which eventually becomes chemistry. There is a hot young woman moving around the guy all day in different positions and laughing at his jokes. The guy gets tempted. The girl gets tempted. They resist their urges for a while, but it is hard to resist a temptation in front of you 40 hours a week. One day, they’re alone. He makes a move. All she has to do is not object.

Make sure she is working either in a hospital or a private practice of a female doctor or dentist.

If the bitch wants to cheat she's gonna cheat and ain't shit you can do about it. What you could have done about it like holding frame and displaying higher value you slipped up on, so it becomes a when and not if. Nonetheless, why would a man want to be with a woman he's providing for only to face this level of disloyalty. After all, wasn't the point of marrying a woman in one of these softer professions to leverage her femininity .

I'd much rather be with my sometimes combative wife who is attractive and makes 3 times the money i do than be supporting some allegedly feminine and soft woman who with a gust of wind is cheating on me if i fail to keep frame one day, week or month. IMO the only solution is to not marry at all or marry a woman who at a minimum makes close to the money you make. Make Im crazy

[questor70]

(10-26-2018 03:36 AM)OCZ Wrote:  

I know man. I have been struggling hard with those kind of girls. It also because they match many of the characteristics of the "Manic Pixie Dream Girl"

Ah, unicorns. The best manic pixie for me would be AnnaSophia Robb's character from Bridges of Terabithia with some years on her to get her out of jailbait territory. I don't think those types exist, or they do, but they're hideous looking.



The problem I have with women is they tend to be really outwardly focused and I am inward and imagination-focused. They also tend to want to hang out in groups and I prefer quiet 1 on 1 (see screenshot above). Women who are introverts or brainiacs tend to be ugly and you can argue whether the chicken or the egg came first there, but you can't really have both. Maybe the most likely would be musicians or actresses where there is both creativity and performance involved.

[Flux]

I think classical musicians and ballet dancers make for great conversation; usually very intelligent in a real way, very intuitive, as opposed to book smart, rigid minded, like most white collar women. They know how to take direction, are disciplined, have artistic ability etc.

Girls in the sciences are also interesting to talk to, but they're lacking in the physical, and social departments...

When I find a girl that's beautiful, has a good heart, and is intelligent, I'm taking it and never looking back.

[MrLemon]

If you're wife makes more than you do, she will divorce you at the worst possible time, when you are sick or have had an accident. You will end up living in a van in constant pain with no health care and watching with horror as your sons are turned into transexuals or abused by her boyfriends.

If you don't have a good enough career to be the main breadwinner DON'T GET FUCKING MARRIED. EVER.

What the fuck is complex about this.