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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

What happened to the China thread, anyway? All th regulars just vanished. Wonder why???
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

Do you speak and read Chinese? There’s lots of non-touristed big cities in China. But they’re usually shitholes.
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

In order to game in China you need to speak Chinese. Outside of Shanghai and Beijing/Shenzhen most people do not speak english at all
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

In China there is the language thing. The richer and more westernized the city, the more who speak English. As you go second and third tier, fewer speak English which cuts down yourr options online and can make day&night game fruitless or impossible.

Of you speak conversational Chinese, the that changes, and of you can read Chinese, that's a huge boost to online possibilities.

In live in Jinan, capital of Shandong province. It's livable and plenty of nice women but not really a party to. In one suburb called Changqing (not to be confused with Chongqing) there is Daxue Lu, or literally "University Road" and has about a dozen uniiversities along a strip a few miles long. Roughly in the middle is "University Square" that has heaps of shops and restaurants, a movie there and such. When the weather is nice the place is crawling with thousands of college girls, many in gaggles of tw to five, but most don't speak English.

Depending in your definition, Shenzhen is either first tier it second. There is a whole separate thread/data sheet about it.

Xiamen is the most beautiful city I've seen. Most of it is on an island where there is one light industry so there is virtually not air pollution. Is was there in February and it was 20 degrees C every day. It's sort of touristy and there are a lot of ex-pats there. A fair number of the locals can speak some English. Xia Da is the moderately famous university although there are several more on the mainland portion of the city.
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

Quote: (10-12-2018 05:21 AM)asiaslayer Wrote:  

Bump. I'm looking for intel on good tier 2/tier 3 cities in China to hit up and explore in a few months. Cities that are off the beaten path where exotic factor is still high... but it seems like China is inundated with foreigners everywhere these days. Everyone seems hush hush now on good locations lol. E.g. Chongqing was good the last time I was there, but I'm sure it's changed a shit ton over the past few years.

Any suggestions?

If you have to choose your spots based on the number of foreigners you need to start bringing something else to the table other than your skin color, you can't outrun this development, unless you want to eventually run away tail between your legs to some Tier 88 shithole in the back country because you're intimidated by the scary foreigners taking your wimmenz in the big city.
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

^bad perspective. If you’re looking to be an expat second tier (or lower) cities are great options for multiple reasons. Not least of which is being a big fish in a small pond. Or if you’re older.

Why make life difficult? First tier cities are challenging in many ways. Quality of life is usually low, costs high, tons of competition, girls attitudes sour...

Yeah if you’re Mr. alpha that won’t matter. In which case you wouldn’t be reading this thread anyway. Certainly not seriously researching it.

The biggest trade offs with tier twos is the investment for learning language and making sure you don’t get blackballed by the community for being a player.
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

How about Ukraine ?Do 2nd and 3rd tier cities such as let's say Zaporijya,Kryvyi Riv or Mykolaiv have easier lays than Kiev ? In Kiev the quality is high but the competition is steep , there are many rich Ukrainian guys and also rich tourists ( for Ukrainian standarts ) . Kiev's gdp per capita is at least 2 times higher than othet Oblasts.Also almost all girls are Instagram attention whores who trade tickets / other travel expenses to Southern Europe / Dubai for sex , which is a mood killer for me even if the chick is hot. I have been to Kiev and Odessa and i think Odessa is worse among the 2 , but i have never tried the cities with population between 500k - 1 million . Does anyone have experience in this regard ? I am not talking about the average looks here , i am ok if average looks of girls are 1 notch downgrade from Kiev ( let's assume Kiev is 7 on average looks , so i am ok with a city with 6 on average , but not less . )The main thing is getting easier lays . Also living costs will be remarkably cheaper , in Kiev the rents near the center start from 700 $ / month , while in 2nd or 3rd tier it is 200 $ .The extra 500 bucks is great advantage in Ukraine .
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

Places with better 2nd tier cities than capital cities:

Ukraine: Kharkiv over Kiev (especially on weekends.

Czech Republic: Brno over Prague on the weekends. While Brno is a bit small and can become boring after a few days, no tourists and the Czech talent much better.

Poland: all other cities vs Warsaw!

China: Chengdu vs Beijing/Shanghai/Shenzhe
Chengdu wins hands down.
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

Quote: (05-06-2018 03:35 AM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

I’m surprised no one has yet mentioned Mexico. Mexico City was a huge disappointment, very rarely did I see attractive women out and about. OTOH Guadalajara was 10x better. Prime example of what OP is talking about.

I’ve heard good things about the women in Monterrey as well, but I’ve yet to check it out myself.

Me speaking as a mexican I will rate Guadalajara as the best. Monterrey is also better than Mexico City and the quality is over the roof as Guadalajara, but there are way more prettier women there. ( I lived in Mty for 5 years).

Returning to the topic. It happened to me in Lithuania. Vilnius is amazing in terms of quality don't get me wrong, but I went to Kaunas and DAMN beatiful women everywhere and 10 times easier than anywhere I went. Was there for 3 days and scored twice with almost model looking girls, which would be quite difficult to pull it off somewhere else. A Lithuanian friend show me around and took me to parties, so maybe that also made it easier, but still I´ll say it was totally unexpected.

My blog: Wolfsout
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Places where second and third tier cities have better quality then first tier

Quote: (10-16-2018 12:50 AM)Redfish Wrote:  

Places with better 2nd tier cities than capital cities:

Ukraine: Kharkiv over Kiev (especially on weekends.

Czech Republic: Brno over Prague on the weekends. While Brno is a bit small and can become boring after a few days, no tourists and the Czech talent much better.

Poland: all other cities vs Warsaw!

China: Chengdu vs Beijing/Shanghai/Shenzhe
Chengdu wins hands down.

You have been going to the wrong places in Kiev, the ones where the bombshells hang out. CHI, Skybar, Alaska, Koya or Serebro for example.

Kharkiv nightlife used to be very good, but now is tottally infested with Turkish people, nonetheless the girls always had less fashion sense than the Kiev ones, and plenty of "small fish" around, ie under 18.

Also the "specially on the weekend" comment I don't understand, since Kiev as also Kharkov is mostly dead on weekdays but with a slight edge in Kharkov, it would made sense a "specially on a weekday".
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