[Roosh]

I've known of Icke for a while, mostly because of his reptilian shape-shifter theory, but never saw any of his work. After Amazon banned my books, I happened to catch his video on internet censorship...

And it was good! He said nothing outrageous, and connected dots in a similar fashion to Alex Jones. And then I watched his 3 hour interview with London Real (you have to register to watch it)...

https://londonreal.tv/e/david-icke/

The first hour you can watch without registration...

And that was good, too! I'm supposed to see him as crazy, but not only does he make good points, he's entertaining. He has good humor and knows how to tell a story. To make his views more "congruent" to mine, all that's really needed is a minor substitution of "shape-shifting reptilians" with "elite Jews". Just like with watching anyone else, I discard what seems to be off or untrue.

He also goes into the Satanic pedophilia that has become more evident in the past couple of years...

A lot of what he says is basic conspiracy theory fare that is familiar territory to most of us, but he's still engaging to listen to. His energy is lower than Alex Jones, but he does get to the point much quicker. I never thought I would enjoy his content.

[Richard Turpin]

My UK-based brethren will confirm this, but it's difficult for people of a certain age to think of David Icke as anything other than a football/snooker presenter. At one time in the 80's his profile was huge. So huge, that when he suddenly (and jarringly) started wearing purple tracksuits and talking about the Queen being one of the Lizard people, the media here absolutely crucified him. I think he did Wogan (big UK talk-show) once and his standing was never the same after that.

I'm with you, I haven't watched or read much of his stuff, but occasionally I've stumbled over a video or a quote by him that makes perfect sense. Until he starts talking about Lizard people. Fascinating character and I'd love to know what others on the forum who've followed him more closely have to say.

[captain_shane]

Lizard people are Jews who shapeshift between being jewish and white when it benefits them.

I like David Icke, he seems like a good guy that wants to wake people up. And it's easier to listen to him than AJ screaming all the time.

[RawGod]

Icke is indeed very good and the lizard thing is only 5% of his content. Use your judgement, but overall I believe his version of reality is closer to the truth than that of CNN or the BBC.

[hv123]

(09-24-2018 09:06 AM)Richard Turpin Wrote:  

My UK-based brethren will confirm this, but it's difficult for people of a certain age to think of David Icke as anything other than a football/snooker presenter. At one time in the 80's his profile was huge. So huge, that when he suddenly (and jarringly) started wearing purple tracksuits and talking about the Queen being one of the Lizard people, the media here absolutely crucified him. I think he did Wogan (big UK talk-show) once and his standing was never the same after that.

I'm with you, I haven't watched or read much of his stuff, but occasionally I've stumbled over a video or a quote by him that makes perfect sense. Until he starts talking about Lizard people. Fascinating character and I'd love to know what others on the forum who've followed him more closely have to say.

I remember it. As you say it was a very sudden fall from grace. He went from being a pretty big celebrity to being a figure of ridicule in the media over night. He didn't make himself look good on Wogan.

But this was all pre internet. People think that the media is biased these days but in those days there were 3/4 TV channels, Radio (BBC), and newspapers, and that was essentially it. Guys like Icke would never had a platform in those days. (even in the USA Alex Jones' career would have started and ended with him shouting CONSTITUTION! at Piers Morgan. )

If you think about the internet it's pretty amazing that the elite has managed to produce a generation like milennials where everyone basically thinks the same thing (95% anyway.). I certainly remember there being more different opinions heard in life back in "the day". Like when there was actually a real difference between political parties. I think a lot of it is because female social networks have largely taken over and offending and standing out have become very bad. The way women act (female social networks) is essential how public life has become now. But I digress.

I honestly don't know what to think of David Icke as some of the stuff he says seems totally mental and some of it very interesting. Some of the quite far fetched conspiracy stuff contains a few kernels of truth. I thought that stuff he's said about "child protection" (in the UK) was really interesting and quite scary.

[Marmite]

It was on the Wogan interview that he stated he was God, or more accurately that we are all God. I think that was the start of his being called crazy. I really like David Icke, and have killed many an hour watching his videos on YouTube. I haven't read any of his books of which there are many, but I will get round to them at some point.

His reptilian shape shifter theory does seem very far fetched, but most of what he has talked about in the past has been revealed as being true, so I wouldn't completely dismiss even his crazier ideas.

As a side note, Wogan is Sir Terry Wogan that openly admitted he knew about the Jimmy Saville paedophilia ring, but said nothing because he wanted to protect his career.

[Richard Turpin]

(09-24-2018 10:32 AM)Marmite Wrote:  

It was on the Wogan interview that he stated he was God, or more accurately that we are all God. I think that was the start of his being called crazy. I really like David Icke, and have killed many an hour watching his videos on YouTube. I haven't read any of his books of which there are many, but I will get round to them at some point.

His reptilian shape shifter theory does seem very far fetched, but most of what he has talked about in the past has been revealed as being true, so I wouldn't completely dismiss even his crazier ideas.

As a side note, Wogan is Sir Terry Wogan that openly admitted he knew about the Jimmy Saville paedophilia ring, but said nothing because he wanted to protect his career.

Yeah, the headlines in the papers were brutal: 'David Icke Son Of God' sort of thing. I can't recall someone going from being so well-respected to vilified as quickly, which kinda makes it all the more admirable that he went down the road he did, at the very height of his celebrity no less.

Lizard-men makes me smile but honestly, if it turned out to be true, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.

'Sir' Terry knowing about stuff like that? I wasn't aware of that, and again I wouldn't be surprised. It would make that Wogan episode incredibly ironic now though.

That reminds me of Esther Rantzen (founder of Childline) knowing all about Jimmy Savile but failing to act.

I've since watched one of his vids that Roosh posted and yes, he does come across well, no wonder they didn't want him on the TV anymore.

[loremipsum]

(09-24-2018 10:32 AM)Marmite Wrote:  

His reptilian shape shifter theory does seem very far fetched, but most of what he has talked about in the past has been revealed as being true, so I wouldn't completely dismiss even his crazier ideas.

This is why I still follow the guy. Currently I'm reading his book "Perception Deception".
His writing style is a wreck, but the book contains shitload of info on the holographic reality / reptilian theory.

Even with the reptilian theory he's just one of the many messengers. He did not make it up himself, rather connected the dots on what many ancient religions have been saying. The more I study the reptilian theory and all the whistleblowers claiming similar stuff, the less crazy it gets.

[Thot Leader]

(09-24-2018 10:03 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  

Lizard people are Jews who shapeshift between being jewish and white when it benefits them.

I like David Icke, he seems like a good guy that wants to wake people up. And it's easier to listen to him than AJ screaming all the time.

Yep. It's like what Jordan Peterson says about how religion is metaphorically but not literally true, which is why I don't think Icke's ideas should be so thoroughly dismissed.

Another aspect to the allegory, one I think Icke himself has talked about, is that the reptilian brain is distinct from the mammalian, producing a different wavelength of consciousness. Maybe reptilians are just people who live from the reptilian brain (predatory, ravenous, without empathy).

[sterlingarcher]

David Icke has to be controlled opposition.

90% of what he says is deep truth, and often years ahead of anyone else.

I think he was one of the first to talk about Jimmy Saville, and Ted Heath...

But the other 10% is so ridiculous it discredits all.

I really believe it's by design - lots of speculation out there that adds up if you look.

[Captainstabbin]

When Icke goes off on the spiritual tangent, he becomes a raving lunatic. The dude thought he was going to get superpowers in the 2012 Mayan calendar reset. He thinks that the Solar Logos is going to start vibrating everyone at a higher frequency or some shit. It's basically a rehash of Alice Bailey (and older) theosophical ramblings.

[TigerMandingo]

This guy is captivating to listen to. Reminds me of David Irving.

I love British conspiracy dudes

[DarkTriad]

A brilliant guy, despite his flaws. I heard one theory that the whole reptilian thing was a way to for him to tell the truth about things without being bumped off or silenced. And to be fair, reptilians aren't really more farfetched than a lot of religious beliefs over the centuries ("God told me to enact a special tax on Christians")

[Sherman]

The problem I have with the conspiracy theorists is they never get into anything really specific or follow the money flow. In this presentation he uses the latest popular buzz word "AI".

As an example, Michael Savage read some of the research reports written by the "Dr." Ford and found they were on showing that an abortion drug helps in controlling depression. He thinks the senate should ask her if she has accepted funding from any abortion groups. Abortion is a huge business and is behind the Kavanaugh assault, but nobody talks about it even though the financial incentive is obvious. Also, all of these lawyers who bring allegations are all heavly invested in the Democratic Party and have sleazy backgrounds. I looked up the latest lawyer, Avenatti, bringing allegations on wikipedia. He is listed as a Democrat, and her is just some of what is said about him:

"In 2018, Avenatti's law firm was subjected to a $10 million judgment in U.S. bankruptcy court.[47] Avenatti has also defaulted on a $440,000 judgment in back taxes, penalties, and interest that he was personally obligated to pay under another bankruptcy settlement"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Av...mmigration



There is definitely something going on. For example, you have to have real power to be able to push something like LGBT virtually over every country on the planet simultaneously. But we never learn about the specifics of how it happens. I don't think the conspiracy theorists know anymore than we do. Anyone coming up with real facts will be quickly shut down. I think it is probable that there are criminal networks involved, which would be a conspiracy under the law. But it is too complex for the individual to follow. People want simple narratives and explanations.

[captain_shane]

(09-24-2018 01:30 PM)Sherman Wrote:  

The problem I have with the conspiracy theorists is they never get into anything really specific or follow the money flow. In this presentation he uses the latest popular buzz word "AI".

As an example, Michael Savage read some of the research reports written by the "Dr." Ford and found they were on showing that an abortion drug helps in controlling depression. He thinks the senate should ask her if she has accepted funding from any abortion groups. Abortion is a huge business and is behind the Kavanaugh assault, but nobody talks about it even though the financial incentive is obvious. Also, all of these lawyers who bring allegations are all heavly invested in the Democratic Party and have sleazy backgrounds. I looked up the latest lawyer, Avenatti, bringing allegations on wikipedia. He is listed as a Democrat, and her is just some of what is said about him:

"In 2018, Avenatti's law firm was subjected to a $10 million judgment in U.S. bankruptcy court.[47] Avenatti has also defaulted on a $440,000 judgment in back taxes, penalties, and interest that he was personally obligated to pay under another bankruptcy settlement"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Av...mmigration



There is definitely something going on. For example, you have to have real power to be able to push something like LGBT virtually over every country on the planet simultaneously. But we never learn about the specifics of how it happens. I don't think the conspiracy theorists know anymore than we do. Anyone coming up with real facts will be quickly shut down. I think it is probable that there are criminal networks involved, which would be a conspiracy under the law. But it is too complex for the individual to follow. People want simple narratives and explanations.

If you want someone that goes in to specifics, check out James Corbett.

https://www.youtube.com/user/corbettreport

[Belgrano]

(09-24-2018 12:22 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

When Icke goes off on the spiritual tangent, he becomes a raving lunatic. The dude thought he was going to get superpowers in the 2012 Mayan calendar reset. He thinks that the Solar Logos is going to start vibrating everyone at a higher frequency or some shit. It's basically a rehash of Alice Bailey (and older) theosophical ramblings.

I wonder what he thought when he woke up the next morning and still found himself stuck in 3rd density...

[N°6]

I’ve listened to Icke for years. He called out the banking system, Edward Heath, Jimmy Saville and the Global Control System before they became widespread knowledge.

The reptilian thing doesn’t bother me. Most religions believe in indifferent or malign inter dimensional beings, some of which from Mesopotamia to South America describe them as feathered serpents.

Wogan reinterviewed him and it was completely different to the first one.

Icke hasn’t claimed a reptilian sighting but the American Jordan Maxwell, who brought Icke to the US, has.

[sterling_archer]

I used to think various things about him, from him being crazy to him spewing 100% truth to him being controlled opposition, but at the end only one thing is really true for me. When I read The Biggest Secret when I was 15, I was practically initiated into the occult and conspirology, and years that followed were spent gathering knowledge. So yeah, David Icke red pilled me.

[Steve McQueen]

David icke red pilled me aswell, my day of awakening was reading an article in local newspaper about him getting a standing ovation in Canada to a packed theatre.

I'm old enough to remember the Wogan interview and subsequent fall out so l was intrigued that this loon could pack out a venue. It got me thinking, l went looking and discovered Alex Jones et all.

911 never sat right with me so l guess you could call that the initial awakening but reading about icke in the news that day was the true awakening. That was over 12 years ago now. His interviews with Alex Jones remain some of my favourite. You should check them out.

I for one think he's onto something with the reptilian agenda, all the elites seem to only fk their cousins, why is my question.

[Ozzymandius]

I have a one-degree-of-separation story on David Icke.

Back in the early 2000s, I was part of a group in the US that conducted ayahuasca ceremonies. One of my best friends was a co-leader of that group while I was mostly a participant. My friend was a big David Icke fan while I though Icke was completely and utterly insane. I had only heard my friend talk about "shape-shifting reptilians" and that was enough for me to dismiss it all as dangerous nonsense. I felt for sure that Icke was a conman and likely a government operative, to make conspiracy researchers look insane.

Sometime around 2002-2003, my friend actually got into contact with Icke and invited him to an ayahuasca ceremony that the group was going to conduct in the Amazon. I refused to go as I didn't want to get programmed by "lizard memes" while in a psychedelic state. My friend of course went and Icke actually flew down to South America too.

To make a long story short, Icke absolutely believes what he says. He took the ayahuasca and ended up isolating himself in a porta potty for a couple of hours, screaming his head off! When he came out, he felt that all his thoughts and theories finally crystalized and was reinvigorated to spread his message and "heal the world."

Since that time, while I am still not fully aboard the Icke train, I feel that most of what he says is correct. And after seeing entities myself in various psychedelic and out-of-body states I think his reptilian theory actually makes some powerful metaphorical sense. Predatory human beings out there can quite possibly be "possessed," in a sense, by discarnate intelligences from what Carl Jung called the collective unconscious and ancient wisdom teachers called the Astral Planes.

Where Icke absolutely loses me is with some of his earlier books and articles where he claims that his African shamanic friend, Credo Mutwa, once found a crashed flying saucer when he was lost in the desert and only survived because he ate a dead grey alien! Absolute horse hockey! I don't think Icke ever retracted that belief.

[hedonist]

I've been aware of him for many years but missed seeing him live till only a year ago.

I thought the same thing after the event that the reptiles might be a metaphor for the ((( )))

When I saw the show it was broken into 4 parts
Part 1 Was alot of conspiracy stuff from the past that was now known as fact....also Soros etc popped up quite a bit..lots of current events, migrant crisis etc
Part 2 Was about what exactly is reality ...IMO he started out part 1 with proven facts to get you in a 'yes' frame of mind ..part 2 was the lube for his more out there stuff as below.
Part 3 Was right out there ....reptiles...I can't remember right now but he did go into the Moon and Saturns rings quite a bit
Part 4 Was a summary that spoke about what can be done, infinite love etc

I'd definitely recommend going to one of his events, even if some of it is out there....they did try to shut it down and I'm surprised it got let through as the same city shut down one of his events in the past.

Will post more later....tired lol

[Avadhuta]

Even if Icke is controlled opposition and has been sucked into the matrix he denounces, it just proves he's right about something. I don't think he'll be online much longer personally. He's already been accused of antisemitism.

[Rossi]

Icke says, Queen is a lizard and really talked about it for like 2 hours and I ended up watching whole thing. It was really weird but interestingly, he was able to show weird videos that kinda proved it.

[Pride male]

Great speaker but his stuff is garbage. He is a snake oil salesmen. If he named the jew he would get shut down quick.

[Truth Tiger]

Along the theme of reptilians / aliens in high places ... explain the reasoning behind this place:

I honestly never knew there was a building (audience hall) at the Vatican that looked like this. WTF is up with that hideous sculpture behind the chair? I'm a follower of Jesus, but Christ's message was corrupted and twisted by power brokers into the monstrosities that are modern Christian churches (Catholicism being the absolute worst). Sadly, all the Abrahamic religions are elaborate brainwashing and control systems masquerading as 'God's will.'

Then there's the research by Vatican-funded organizations that have shown the existence of 'dark entities' which is rather disturbing, too.

There is much more going on in the universe than the unfortunately brainwashed will ever understand. The unwillingness to even examine the evidence for systemic corruption - except when so egregious - shows how evil has been able to grow: because good people can't conceive of or cope with the level of sickness these evil beings are capable of. Brainwashing, cover stories, rituals that seem innocent but are very dark indeed all plays a large parts in creating a public plausible deniability that's good enough for the vast unwashed and unthinking masses.

This is one reason why I find David Icke largely credible (along with Q) - both shine the light on age-old sickness and corruption that's being at least partially dismantled. Q often says 'symbolism will be their downfall' and if you look into the sick 'elite' you see all kinds of symbols related to ancient gods/goddesses & satan to whom satanic / ritual sacrifice their followers offered. Icke pointed this out years ago and was likely the first to do so.

Bonus video (ties in the first one I linked with broader implications related to elite corruption and reptilian origins). These 'people' don't treasure human life - except as food (in every way imaginable).