[ThisIs]

To put everything in situation:

I started a new course, and I'm in a classroom with tons of dudes, where I managed to somehow sit with the best looking female. We have a good mood going on, but we have only been there for 3 days.

I will try to ask her out this weekend,( even thought I may have already been friendzoned )I spend 6h in the classroom next to that girl and we share my car (she pays the fuel for it , im trying to not get friendzoned) to go to the classroom.

So everything is going more or less fine and I guess at one point I may ask her for a date (she lives really close) , and try to bang her. Problem is, next week an old friend of mine will incoportate to the same classroom and will come with me in my car (and her). Why am I saying that? Cause that guy is thirsty as fuck and will try to hit on her, and probably will end up ruining any change to bang her for any of us.

I know that im sounding beta/insecure as fuck , but its not the first time that this guy has fucked up a potential notch . And pls no answers like "stop being his friend" , im not intending to ruin a friendship over a girl lol. Sadly not bringing him in my car is not an option, and he will be in my classroom anyway.

Anyway, is there anything to do besides of ruining my relationship with my friend over a notch? lmao

[PapayaTapper]

(09-19-2018 10:00 AM)ThisIs Wrote:  

To put everything in situation:

I started a new course, and I'm in a classroom with tons of dudes, where I managed to somehow sit with the best looking female. We have a good mood going on, but we have only been there for 3 days.

I will try to ask her out this weekend,( even thought I may have already been friendzoned )I spend 6h in the classroom next to that girl and we share my car (she pays the fuel for it , im trying to not get friendzoned) to go to the classroom.

So everything is going more or less fine and I guess at one point I may ask her for a date (she lives really close) , and try to bang her. Problem is, next week an old friend of mine will incoportate to the same classroom and will come with me in my car (and her). Why am I saying that? Cause that guy is thirsty as fuck and will try to hit on her, and probably will end up ruining any change to bang her for any of us.

I know that im sounding beta/insecure as fuck , but its not the first time that this guy has fucked up a potential notch . And pls no answers like "stop being his friend" , im not intending to ruin a friendship over a girl lol. Sadly not bringing him in my car is not an option, and he will be in my classroom anyway.

Anyway, is there anything to do besides of ruining my relationship with my friend over a notch? lmao

What are you waiting for?

There's no such thing as "the right time".

There is however definitely such a thing as "too late"

Your friend cockblocking you isn't your problem. Your biggest "competition" is your own mindset.

-If this girl doesn't see you interacting with / dating other attractive girls

AND

-You dont sexualize (flirt /ask her to hang out / try to bang her soon)

...then you are putting yourself in the "friendzone".

"Familiarity breeds contempt"

Youre spending a lot of time with her. Each minute that doesn't create attraction is depleting your "mystery" (potential) in her mind

You think your friend who isn't even in the picture yet is what you have to worry about in terms of getting that girl into bed?

I guarantee you he's the least of it. If she's attractive she's getting hit on every day

You need to make sure she knows you think of her in a sexual way. But you need to do this is a low key, non creepy way

And you need to do this now.

Else in a day or two she's going to be sharing how she met this hot guy with you and asking you for "a guy's opinion"

Ouch

[UniversalMen]

(09-19-2018 10:00 AM)ThisIs Wrote:  

I know that im sounding beta/insecure as fuck , but its not the first time that this guy has fucked up a potential notch . And pls no answers like "stop being his friend" , im not intending to ruin a friendship over a girl lol. Sadly not bringing him in my car is not an option, and he will be in my classroom anyway.

Anyway, is there anything to do besides of ruining my relationship with my friend over a notch? lmao

Listen to P.T. He sums it up pretty well. If you don't make your move, NOW, you will be friendzoned, and like what P.T. says, you'll only hear about the guys she's banging. If you want to hear her moan only your name then you need to move fast.

Sitting around wondering how your buddy is gonna fuck up your game is the least of your problems.

[ShuaiGe]

That's cool that you have a chance with this girl who you like. I'm unsure what you mean by "ask her out" . Don't ask her to go on a date, just ask if she has time on this day or that time to go do whatever because it's less pressure for both of you and allows for plausible deniability.

We could go into details about the do's and don'ts but assuming that you're around 20 (great age to be) what will probably be a the greater factor than you expect is the logistics of closing the deal.

You need to plan your time together well, don't chance it. Choose a place you are familiar with and give yourselves the chance to not be seen by others. If you hangout with her friends all the time you will never have the chance for physical escalation without her worrying about judgement. She will absolutely behave differently when she is subject to the judgement of others. We all do.

Ideally, you should think of some reason to go to your house. To get something, to drop something off, to show her something, to cook food together, to use the restroom, whatever.

Maybe she will want to fuck you and maybe she won't, but to be successful you need to give her that chance to act on her desire while also giving her an excuse to go to the place where she has the opportunity to accept your advances, this will protect her self image.

Good luck.

[ThisIs]

After spending some more days with this girl. I feel retarded reading my previous but well... I guess that happens because of my lack of experience.
I've been meeting the girl more, mantaining eye contact, and even started some physical escalation just for testing, she doesnt reject it, and even she did some "physical escalation" , since I dont really know how to define it, I will say stuff like leaning on me... Everything seems to be going ok, but I didn't manage to get a date since I was busy and she was leaving this weekend. I will try to setup a date first thing next week.

BTW: We barely text , my text game sucks so I dont want to risk it there, since anyway I see her everyday for a lot of hours.

I was worried about the issue with my friend , but not anymore, I dont event know right now why was I worried about it like a fkng cuck.

[masta]

The main thing I noticed about your game is that you never once mentioned anything about her signs and body language. Seduction is a two way street. Sometimes a woman might give me a window within 10 seconds of meeting me, and sometimes that window could come after 2 months. So it would be foolish for me to go on an internet forum and ask "Guys, when should I escalate?" The proper answer is whenever she gives you a window. And rarely do women give you the same window twice. A window is like a test to see if you have experience and if you are used to women being attracted to you. If you fail to escalate on this window, she will know you lack experience. Even if your friend is thirsty, should he get a window and manages to escalate in a timely matter, he will get her.

What you are doing is not really running any game. You are just acting like a normal guy you see in the movies. Boy meets girl. Boy likes girl. Boy waits for perfect time. Boy asks girl out. Girl says yes. In real life, it looks more like girl tells boy she likes him as a friend. Seduction is NEVER linear. That's in your head.

Next time you hang out with her, banter and flirt with her. Kino her (touch). Close the distance. Make eye seductive eye contact. And look for that window. And when you spot that window, say something like "We should hang out sometime." Better yet, find out something that both of you like to do and use that as an excuse to be alone. "yeah we should definately do that together sometime." This is actually how you seduce a woman.

[ThisIs]

(09-21-2018 03:17 PM)masta Wrote:  

The main thing I noticed about your game is that you never once mentioned anything about her signs and body language. Seduction is a two way street. Sometimes a woman might give me a window within 10 seconds of meeting me, and sometimes that window could come after 2 months. So it would be foolish for me to go on an internet forum and ask "Guys, when should I escalate?" The proper answer is whenever she gives you a window. And rarely do women give you the same window twice. A window is like a test to see if you have experience and if you are used to women being attracted to you. If you fail to escalate on this window, she will know you lack experience. Even if your friend is thirsty, should he get a window and manages to escalate in a timely matter, he will get her.

What you are doing is not really running any game. You are just acting like a normal guy you see in the movies. Boy meets girl. Boy likes girl. Boy waits for perfect time. Boy asks girl out. Girl says yes. In real life, it looks more like girl tells boy she likes him as a friend. Seduction is NEVER linear. That's in your head.

Next time you hang out with her, banter and flirt with her. Kino her (touch). Close the distance. Make eye seductive eye contact. And look for that window. And when you spot that window, say something like "We should hang out sometime." Better yet, find out something that both of you like to do and use that as an excuse to be alone. "yeah we should definately do that together sometime." This is actually how you seduce a woman.

Exactly thats what I should do, because I saw that windows... (I started to "game" her a day after opening the thread (so 2 days), since as u say I wasn't doing anything before that). But when that happened.... I didn't act and now I may have fucked it up since she already gave some signals haha.

But anyway, I will look for it again since I know what are u talking about, Ive nothing to lose anyway.

And I must say that spending around 7h a day with her doesnt help. Its way too much time, and and first it was "uncomfortable" so that may have fucked up some things. I mean its not the same as a girl that u see for an hour or so, where u can do some "dumb stuff" and "fake" some stuff. We literally sit next to each other, she comes with me while eating , and she shares my car with me.... So shes literally watching how i behave the whole day

[PapayaTapper]

(09-21-2018 04:52 PM)ThisIs Wrote:  

Exactly thats what I should do, because I saw that windows... (I started to "game" her a day after opening the thread (so 2 days), since as u say I wasn't doing anything before that). But when that happened.... I didn't act and now I may have fucked it up since she already gave some signals haha.

But anyway, I will look for it again since I know what are u talking about, Ive nothing to lose anyway.

^ Calm down.

Dont ever assume anything;

Neither that you "fucked it up" until you know

Nor that the lay is in the bag until youre balls deep in her hooha

Are you in the West or somewhere else? I ask because if youre in the West I wouldn't recommend asking her on a "date" per se. Thats likely to scare the college age cat.

Youre better off asking her to "hang". If the girl is into you and not a slut you need to give her plausible deniability while build some comfort to go along with the attraction.

Id recommend following this date recipe as closely as possible.

New Recipe for Securing First-Date Bangs
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The details may not be exactly applicable but the broader game concepts definitely are

But most of all you have to not care so much about the outcome with this one girl as that will leak out as neediness and surely kill it

Chill out. She's just one girl with one pussy. Theres literally billions of them

[Mizo1234]

@PapayaTapper, Dude I really like your writing and thinking. If you don't mind, could you tell how old are you? whats your profession ,.....etc

[Preussen]

If you are sharing a car I would just drive her to your house without saying anything beforehand. I did this before with a girl on a first meeting. I picked her up at her place and just drove. She asked where I was taking her and I said to my place to cook dinner. We made a stop at the store on the way, planned a meal on the spot then went to my house.

[Cobra]

Holy shit dude...

If you don't ask her out as soon as you see her again, I'm going to find her and fuck her for you.

Stop over analyzing.

[Preussen]

If you are sharing a car I would just drive her to your house without saying anything beforehand. I did this before with a girl on a first meeting. I picked her up at her place and just drove. She asked where I was taking her and I said to my place to cook dinner. We made a stop at the store on the way, planned a meal on the spot then went to my house.

[ThisIs]

(09-22-2018 01:00 PM)Preussen Wrote:  

If you are sharing a car I would just drive her to your house without saying anything beforehand. I did this before with a girl on a first meeting. I picked her up at her place and just drove. She asked where I was taking her and I said to my place to cook dinner. We made a stop at the store on the way, planned a meal on the spot then went to my house.

She knows where I live because shes literally my neighbour (she lives a couple blocks away), so I drop her off right in front of my appt. We arrive at lunch hour... maybe it could work but idk, she has people back at her home waiting, but anyway not a bad idea, i might try it one day.

But anyway, this monday im def propossing to do something with her in the way back (for friday/weekend, i cant afford other day), after trying some physical escalation during the day


BTW: Our texts are basically summarized into "im ready to be picked up" during the morning and so. Theres nothing else. I guess I won't type her during this weekend, anyway I didnt have enought time, and Ive no idea what could I say. I will see her tomorrow so not a big issue in my oppinion.