[Vladimir Poontang]

I just watched this :

Very interesting. Does anyone have any stories or wisdom about seemingly innocent girls not being so innocent?

By the way I think it needs to be pointed out that there's a big difference between a girl being a slut and enjoying sex, despite the strawman argument that feminists still make.

[Robert High Hawk]

Some valid points here:

1. As you transition to being a masculine and ambitious man, keep some of your old friends, so you don't pull yourself so far in one direction that you have no socialization with "normal" people.

2. Almost all women will blow past most guys away with the levels of depravity to which they are willing to sink. All depends on the context in which it's being done. When a guy appreciates that for what it is, and can withhold judgement, he can use this to his advantage to satisfy his needs in whatever manner he wants.

That said, I have a couple problems with this guys point:

@07:40

"I had an impression of her, she was a good woman. Even though she was married and was going to leave her husband for me..."

Sounds highly suspect, especially since he did not say why she was leaving him, other than she fell in love with the narrator. Not doubting the truth of this, just doubting this girl was as nice and special as he makes her out to be.

"I knew this girl who was a cheating and disloyal skank, but she was a really really nice girl who dressed conservatively".

Not quite.

Also, this dudes obsession with spit roasting is kind of strange. Honest question, does it make sex with a chick that much better? I sincerely have no desire to do that kind of thing, but apparently it's the thing to do (according to this guy), so curious as to what the appeal is. No judge, I promise.

Thematically, great topic to bring up. I need to be reminded of this female dynamic often.

[musicalprodigy1]

I could mention the Phillipines....but most of you guys know what that is.
In good old USA, I've met church going, praying, shiny show wearing girls.....who after one "innocent" Margarita would allow anal. First time anal. Irrespective of race.
Dominican girls don't even pretend lol.
I think it's indicative of a global culture (in the sense that most other cultures emulate America, or the west in general, in all its glorious, prosperous depravity), but make no mistake- it's the nature of women. They are inherently depraved, as you fine gents well know.

If it's not being managed, it's being exploited. Rule of life folks.

[firat113]

I remember back when i didn't know what game was and not yet red pilled. I met an 18 year old girl at a street festival, she was so cute and innocent looking, we made eye contact and she gave me the warmest smile when we walked past each other. It made my day so much better, but i didn't think much about it, i was out enjoying the festival with a few friends of mine. A few hours later when we're about to head home i see the same girl again, she keeps looking at me from a distance and smiling. I was scared as fuck for rejection but i decided to go for it. She was so beautiful man.

"I see you're smiling at me, what's up with you, whats your name?". I went up and asked for her name and for her number, i tell her we should hang out sometime. She says she would love to.

3 days later we go out and grab dinner. I paid for everything even though it was kinda expensive. I didn't know any better back then and wanted to impress. We had a great time and the more i talked to her the more she seemed like an angel to me. This girl is too good to be true. She had no flaws. What i believed was a thing back then, the "innocent girl next door". We end the date and she tells me she had a fantastic time and she'd like to see me again. I reciprocate. I walk her home and i get a kiss at her doorstep. She asked if i wanted to chill at her place, her parents weren't home for another hour or two. If i knew better i could have gotten into her place, but i was a pussy and told her i had to get up early tomorrow (obvious lie). So i walked home.

After university, i always go to the library to study for an hour or two, and i happened to stumble on her. She didn't see me but i saw her from a distant. She was holding hands with another guy. At first, i thought it was just her brother, but then i saw them kissing. I go home and think what the hell is going on here, she just went out with me the other day, and we kissed, does she have a boyfriend? I decide to check up on her on Instagram, her name is unique so it was quite easy to find her, but her profile was private. I ask one of my friends to follow her and she accepts within 10 minutes. He sends me screenshots of her pictures. I sit there and look through them and find that she, in fact, does have a boyfriend. He seems like the beta kind of guy. There's even a picture she put up with them being on the phone for 5 hours. This guy was a beta provider. She was with him for the attention and comfort. But i didn't know any of this before, i was clueless about women and game.

I thought to myself, fuck this girl, she's probably out with guys like this so she can get away with a free meal, and i had just spent a lot of money on that date. She's clearly wasting my time. The same day she sent a message saying she wanted to see me again, but after what i had seen at the library and check out her social media, i decided to delete her number and forget about her.

A few days later, on a Friday, i'm out clubbing with some friends. My friend introduces me to some guy that claims he's fucked tons of girls and he shows me pictures and names of girls he's banged. Impressive. It was legit. I ask him whether he knows a girl called Monique (let's just call her that). He says yeah, why? I tell him about my episode the other day and he bursts in laughter. He tells me this girl isn't an angel and as innocent as i might think and that im completely wrong about her. She does have a boyfriend but it doesn't stop her from fucking other guys.

He shows me a video of her sucking his dick, and i freeze. Im shocked to be honest. I couldn't believe it, i told him to show me further proof that it's her. He showed me another video of him and his friend having a threesome with her in a forest. At this point im mindblown. This is exactly her. The sweet innocent girl i was on a date with not long ago. But how... she has a boyfriend? He tells me her boyfriend is beta as fuck and they're not having sex.

This was one of the biggest eye openers for me. It's scary how ignorant i was before i got red pilled. Now i keep seeing these things all the time and it's just normal for me now.

This year alone, i've fucked a girl with a boyfriend, because she was "bored of him", i've made out with a few girls with so-called boyfriends because "it just happened" and they were seeking excitement. I've slept with a girl that wasn't into one night stands in under 30 min of gaming her during night game, "im not one of those girls" she told me earlier that night. I've made out with a girl on the dance floor while her boyfriend was at the bar ordering them drinks (disgusting). Things that i thought was impossible 2 years ago. And i used to feel bad about all of this, imagine if your gf did this to you i asked myself, how would you feel about it? But i realize now it's part of the game and this is how things works.

I even asked this girl, what were you thinking making out with me when your boyfriend is just a few meters away, she told me that im exciting her more, that it's worth it and that it didn't matter if she got caught, because he would always forgive her if he found out about it. I felt kind of bad for this dude.

Oh man how much knowledge i have accumulated over the past few months, and i've just started out this year. It's like you get unplugged from the matrix and see the real raw world as it is. See women for who they really are. See the truth no matter how gritty and painful it may be. I feel bad for those who are not ready for this yet.

[BlackHussar]

My redpilling was a process lasting for several years. Looking back, I can smirk at my young naivete, but to live through my redpills one by one wasn't that pleasant...

I was very idealistic and positive in high school. I believed in the inherent good in (most of the) people. But then it began, you hear a story here, you read a news article or a men's blog post there...

You hear about a girl being in a relationship with two guys, and all three of them go to the same class.
You hear about girls cheating on their boyfriends in most perfid ways, but you know them all in person and you saw how much they're in love, and that can't be true...

Oh, but it can, and is, brother.

It's also fascinating how bluepilled people won't snap out of it, even in their mid-twenties. I've had both friends and girlfriends all live in fantasy worlds with unicorns galloping around. When you try to warn them and wake them up, they simply won't listen - sometimes, they may even get offended.
Truly, for some, there is no cure.

"You know, you should not cater to every one of your girlfriend's whims. It's not manly. You need to respect yourself more and stop chasing her. - Dude, she's great and I love her very much. [She deserves that I leave my buddies in the middle of a night out on Saturday and cross half of the town just because she said that she misses me and would like me to kiss her and bring her a donut]. Please don't say anything like that ever again." (Half a year later, they break up, of course she's been cheating on him, of course she found a "new" guy 5 days later)

"You know bro, that girl you're talking to, I've heard she is a slut. You should forget about her and focus on another girl. - What the fuck dude, how can you say that, she seems like a good girl. In fact, I know it, she's just so good to me, I feel she really understands me, unlike those other girls. - She's using you to get free meals and expensive drinks at the best bars in town, and you're too good a person to see that. You're a provider to her. And you're not going to fuck her. - BlackHussar, you have no idea. I'm sure she is into me and that we will soon be happy together."
(No, they weren't happy together.)

"Hey StupidEx, I'm glad you had a good night out. However, I would like to point out that those 4 guys who were talking to you and your other three [dumb fucking attention whores] girl friends weren't genuinely interested in striking a friendship with you. I understand that while DumbFriend1 kissed Guy1, and while DumbFriend2 sucked the dick of Guy2 in the toilet, your DumbFriend3 and yourself merely talked to Guy3 and Guy4 because you're loyal and good girlfriends to me and Boyfriend, but these guys still wanted to fuck you. - But no, love, we explicitly told them 3 times that we have boyfriends, and they really just talked like friends to us. I'm sure they meant no harm. They even asked us for our numbers so that we can hang out and grab coffee - [Listen here you stupid bitch, I've banged more sluts with boyfriends than you have banged guys in total, and I know for fact that those guys didn't want to be your friends, so next time you dumb fucks better learn to resist other guys' game instead of opening up to them, because then they think they have a chance...] Ok. - Why are you angry now, BlackHussar? I love you so much, please don't be mean, blahblahblahblah...

[Mig Picante]

This was some self indulgent long winded talk, I couldn't watch the whole thing.
Who was he convincing? Himself?

[Robert High Hawk]

One time at a bar I ran into some married chicks whose navy husbands were deployed on a submarine. They were unabashedly looking for the D. Me, with my idealistic views, was shocked, SHOCKED that a man's wife would go out on the prowl while he is out defending our brave nation. Nowadays I still don't think I would take the chance to hit that, but I sincerely wouldn't bat a damn eye or even give a crap.

For some people it takes a lifetime (or never) to lift the veil and see things for what they are, but in a non-judgemental way. I will be honest and say I still struggle with this, and it causes me a lot of inconvenience and pain. I've made amazing progress, but it's still a soft spot that needs work. A very small part of me is wincing reading some of y'alls stories, when it shouldn't be surprising at all.

[Fortis]

^ I have a similar story. I knew a marine who was on-duty and his wife would be out there gobbling down cocks like her name was pacman.

It was a shame since I was close to the dude's family, but he was so in love with that girl that I was afraid he'd end up at my house drunk and waving a pistol or something.

Anyway, long story short, these two are married with a kid, but whenever I look at the kid I'm wondering if it's even his.

I've since cut ties with those people and I'm no longer bothered by it, but it does make you think. Are you that guy to some girl? I suspect I was at least once or twice.

[questor70]

I watched this video all the way through and what I think he didn't articulate properly is WHY it is women will lose their inhibitions like that.

(start autism)

It's been proven time and again that the mind is not some singular entity but it's more of a conversation between different brain regions. There have been clinical studies on epileptic patients who have had their left and right half bisected and then they show them pictures that only one eye can see and one half can connect the image to a word and the other half can't.

It's not an exact analogy, but this is how I've come to believe that female sexuality works and why they're so vulnerable to seduction via physical escalation.

The premise of the video was trying to reconcile how it is women can be prim and proper one moment and spit-roasted the next. The answer is that women in a situation like that do not rationally consent to being spit-roasted but their consciousnessness transitions from their rational mind over into a trance-like sexual state.

Women have a love-hate relationship with seduction. Whether they love it or not tends to revolve around how their rational mind digests the experience afterwards, knowing that they hate taking responsibility for their actions. On a first-bang or early in the relationship women almost instinctively enter into a panic state right afterwards when their rational mind kicks back in. That's where all the regret/dread/guilt/hormonal-bonding comes rushing forward and that's where men need to do the most delicate balancing act.

[Vladimir Poontang]

(08-24-2018 10:51 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

his wife would be out there gobbling down cocks like her name was pacman.

[Vladimir Poontang]

What is being discussed here?

Enjoying sex?
Being a slut?
Cheating?

It's important to distinguish.

[ilostabet]

my first girlfriend (highschool), whose virginity I took, who at the time I thought would be my wife (lol), and which I dated for 2 years on and off, was one of these "innocent" girls. everyone saw her as the kind of girl who is pure as the driven snow, totally committed to the relationship, we were the cutsy couple in school (me the artist type, she the perfect student type) I thought I was just special that she would put out for me but not everyone else because "we were meant for each other" (excuse me while I vomit a bit in my mouth).

well, when we had our last fight and broke up for good, she made sure to tell me that every time we went on break, she was fucking other guys (I didn't ask for specifics). it fucking hurt at the time. now I'm pretty sure she probably did it while we were not on break too - because why the hell not?

at the very least it instilled in me a healthy dose of skepticism about 'innocent' girls. but it did make it hard for me to trust another girl for a while.

[WombRaider]

(08-23-2018 11:14 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  

"I had an impression of her, she was a good woman. Even though she was married and was going to leave her husband for me..."

Sounds highly suspect, especially since he did not say why she was leaving him, other than she fell in love with the narrator. Not doubting the truth of this, just doubting this girl was as nice and special as he makes her out to be.

"I knew this girl who was a cheating and disloyal skank, but she was a really really nice girl who dressed conservatively".

She's already proven herself to lack moral fiber. Why would you think of her as a good girl?

The guy is a self-professed seducer. He gravitates toward women who want to be seduced. There's some selection bias.

[Jetset]

Married 26-year-old church girl connected with me through a mutual friend on social media, had a fit of vagina tingles and crashed at my place for a couple weeks while visiting the mutual friend. Absolutely vile sex in every respect. Her appetite was so off-the-hook I had to take time off work to fuck her enough. Spouting jizz all over her while she texts her husband about "having some things to work out" and "needing space".

Then she crashed with some dude she went to high school with for a week, then reconciled with her husband. Mother of two now.

Same girl packing up the twins for kindergarten and pushing the communion cart, asking me to choke her out with one hand and jam my entire fist inside with the other.

The bonus was that hate-fucking her half to death got me in with the mutual friend, too. Cute little latina thing with a dumbass boyfriend who'd tried to tell me to "be good" to the married one.

[BlackFriar]

I think that a younger version of me should have read this thread, took down notes and made a mental note to one's self: meet these kinds of women and praise God. :-)

[Horus]

Some years ago, I was dating a girl for about 6 months who claimed to have only been with three guys before me. Of course in hindsight there were plenty of red flags, but this was during my more naive years. I was smitten and I considered her a keeper. A few months into the relationship, while she was sucking my dick she took out her camera and asked to take a photo of my dick so she could look at it when I wasn't around. I didn't see any harm in that, and I was actually kinda flattered. Fast forward a few months, and I was ill while staying at her house. She went to work and gave me her hard drive to watch movies. I did a bit of snooping at her old photos - it was all quite innocent, until I looked at an empty folder, which led to another empty folder, which led to about ten more empty folders. I guess this was her foolproof way of hiding the contents. On the last folder, there were dick pics that she had taken of about 40 guys. It seems she had a fetish for collecting photos of the dicks of guys she had fucked. Each photo was meticulously dated with names in brackets. The biggest kick in the guts was that mine was second to last. I was absolutely shocked finding out this secret of my sweet, innocent girlfriend. She went crazy when I ended things a few days later, even though she doesn't know the true reason. Even now years on, she sometimes sends me photos of the two of us together, saying how great we were and she misses me. I guess I was the first guy that was stupid enough not to treat her like the whore that she is.

[DonnyGately]

Girls are and always have been 10x more depraved than guys. Even the non-sluts.

[Investment Bro]

(08-27-2018 12:55 PM)Horus Wrote:  

I guess this was her foolproof way of hiding the contents. On the last folder, there were dick pics that she had taken of about 40 guys.

I could've sworn I read a story like this somewhere else - if you're not trolling then she must have taken both of y'all for a ride.

A girl I knew in college who was a serious bible thumper. Dressed innocently and all that jazz. I brought her back to my dorm room under the pretense of listening to "Jesus music" which was really Kid Rock's The Lonely Road of Faith, which was the only remotely jesus'y song I had.

Long story short, fucked her all over the room including on my roommate's bed. We hooked up for a couple of months, and then she suddenly vanished. Mind you, this entire time other than the fact that she seemed addicted to my cock she was otherwise very normal.

We talked a lot about religion and the importance of it in our life. She was actually very eloquent and knew her stuff. I was impressed.

---

Two years later one of my bros calls me downstairs to the living room of our townhouse. I will never forget the amused look on his face. While conducting "research" he found out what happened.

Turns out our little Jesus freak dropped out of college, moved to LA and you can guess the rest. All kinds of different shit, including with some pretty well known male porn actors. Her videos have gotten fairly popular. Even I admit that some of them are pretty good. I still wonder if she was doing this on the side when I was banging her and how all this shit happened.

I guess nothing brings white chicks closer to Jesus then having your asshole pontificated by a huge black dude.

[BaatumMania]

(08-27-2018 04:56 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  

Girls are and always have been 10x more depraved than guys. Even the non-sluts.

That's because being a woman is playing life on Tutorial Mode.

Imagine if you had infinite SMV (higher than a Chad) and you could have sex with 95% - 100% of women? That's what it's like to be a woman except it's dicks instead of vaginas.

[Jetset]

(08-27-2018 05:57 PM)Investment Bro Wrote:  

I brought her back to my dorm room under the pretense of listening to "Jesus music" which was really Kid Rock's The Lonely Road of Faith, which was the only remotely jesus'y song I had.

[Robert High Hawk]

(08-27-2018 12:55 PM)Horus Wrote:  

Some years ago, I was dating a girl for about 6 months who claimed to have only been with three guys before me. Of course in hindsight there were plenty of red flags, but this was during my more naive years. I was smitten and I considered her a keeper. A few months into the relationship, while she was sucking my dick she took out her camera and asked to take a photo of my dick so she could look at it when I wasn't around. I didn't see any harm in that, and I was actually kinda flattered. Fast forward a few months, and I was ill while staying at her house. She went to work and gave me her hard drive to watch movies. I did a bit of snooping at her old photos - it was all quite innocent, until I looked at an empty folder, which led to another empty folder, which led to about ten more empty folders. I guess this was her foolproof way of hiding the contents. On the last folder, there were dick pics that she had taken of about 40 guys. It seems she had a fetish for collecting photos of the dicks of guys she had fucked. Each photo was meticulously dated with names in brackets. The biggest kick in the guts was that mine was second to last. I was absolutely shocked finding out this secret of my sweet, innocent girlfriend. She went crazy when I ended things a few days later, even though she doesn't know the true reason. Even now years on, she sometimes sends me photos of the two of us together, saying how great we were and she misses me. I guess I was the first guy that was stupid enough not to treat her like the whore that she is.

Just checked up on this thread and this story really struck me. That's some scary/thriller movie type shit. Eerie music playing while you open up endless empty folders until all of a sudden you find she's a dickpic collecter. Outright scandal. I wish you had confronted her with the whole thing though, would be nice to get some sort of an answer about this. Maybe she'd try to murder you for finding out though.