[Abelard Lindsey]

Lots of people don't mind paying the eloi tax.

[Stirfry]

I think this is the main difference between conservatives and liberals, and how I know that instinctually I am the former and not the latter. I don’t agree with all conservative viewpoints and often don’t have much of an opinion on some things that seem to rile up others, but when I see a story like this and read quotes, from grown up adults, about how everyone is really good and nice deep down and that evil doesn’t exist and is a construct, I get a visceral reaction and a small sense of satisfaction when something bad happens to these knuckleheads.

Evil doesn’t exist? Did this person go to school? Do they ever pick up a newspaper? Where did they grow up? I work in a city where murder is so common it barely makes the front page anymore. Where you can’t walk into certain neighborhoods or else you will quite literally be hunted as prey and likely killed, resulting in a small blurb on the bottom of page 10 under the heading “And in other local news...”

Evil is all around us, everywhere. Not only does it exist but I am of the opinion that it is the default setting for humans. I’m a fan of Jared Diamond, and in “Guns, Germs and Steel” he draws comparisons between the rise of civilizations and the hunter-gatherers he lived with while in Southeast Asia as a grad student. He described an encounter he witnessed between two men of different tribes who happened to meet in the jungle but then spent a long time talking, trying to find it if they knew people in common or had some sort of connection, in order to develop even a tiny thread of trust otherwise they would be forced to fight each other. Because THAT is the default, not hugs and flowers and birkenstocks and organic produce.

In my opinion, the threat of death at the hands of other people (in addition to diseases and the unforgiving environment) is probably the reason why we have this mutual agreement to live together and form a government and establish rules and build an infrastructure in the first place. Because as much as we hate each other, it’s preferable to constant tribal warfare. And in the absence of these things, we revert to our default setting, which is shoot first and ask questions later.

I ask myself “how can these people be so stupid?” and the answer is always “willful ignorance.” They have to be purposely blind, they have to go to great efforts to compartmentalize and ignore the obvious, in order to maintain their world view. Lefties do it all the time, which is why I could never be one. They constantly claim otherwise but they hate the truth, particularly the etched-in-stone-undeniable truths of nature that we encounter every day. It’s one thing to lie to people, but quite another to so blantanlty deceive yourself to such an extreme.

[Adonis]

They're lucky they were dispatched quickly and not taken captive and made into sex slaves for the caliphate.

[Enoch]

(08-17-2018 01:11 PM)Adonis Wrote:  

They're lucky they were dispatched quickly and not taken captive and made into sex slaves for the caliphate.

Do they look like goats to you?

[renotime]

I'd bet any of you money that Colombia is far more dangerous than Tajikistan, but that hasn't stopped plenty of dudes on here from going down South.

These people just got stupidly unlucky.

[godfather dust]

Hopefully the guys who went to Colombia weren't thinking "evil doesn't exist" and crash a cartel party because "they are people too and we can hold hands!"

[renotime]

It doesn't sound like they were even trying to find ISIS terrorists to hang out. Just seem like some libtards that wanted to escape DC to go bike riding and experience different cultures.

Hell, Tajikistan is probably safer than DC.

[questor70]

(08-17-2018 01:02 PM)Stirfry Wrote:  

Evil doesn’t exist?

Liberals do believe evil exists...in the hearts of white males. Aka check your privilege.

They find it impossible to pass moral judgment on poorer, more backwards societies out of an inherent sense of guilt.

[Repo]

"ISIS territory"



Hmmm, checks out.

[DarkTriad]

(08-17-2018 01:11 PM)Adonis Wrote:  

They're lucky they were dispatched quickly and not taken captive and made into sex slaves for the caliphate.

This happened on a similar expedition a few years back.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Good article:

Quote:

Robert Spencer in PJ Media: U.S. Couple Murdered by ISIS Fell Victim to Left’s Fantasy World

Quote:

The story has invited more derision than sympathy for the victims: a couple that ridiculed the idea that “the world is a big, scary place” was murdered by Islamic State (ISIS) jihadis while biking through Tajikistan. But those who are mocking Jay Austin and Lauren Geoghegan for their naivete are being too harsh.

The responsibility for their deaths lies not just with ISIS, or with this starry-eyed couple, but also with the Leftist world in which they moved and lived. The Left’s leaders constructed a fantasy world, because Leftist ideas are dead on the drawing board without it.

In their fantasy world, Islam is peace. Borders and nation-states are unwelcome relics of a bygone age, because people are good everywhere — with the exception of Donald Trump and the “far-right.”

Austin, an employee of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and Geoghegan, who worked at Georgetown University, decided two years ago to leave their jobs and go on a bike ride around the world. They kept a blog about their journey, on which Austin wrote last April:

You watch the news and you read the papers and you’re led to believe that the world is a big, scary place. People, the narrative goes, are not to be trusted. People are bad. People are evil. People are axe murderers and monsters and worse.

I don’t buy it. Evil is a make-believe concept we’ve invented to deal with the complexities of fellow humans holding values and beliefs and perspectives different than our own — it’s easier to dismiss an opinion as abhorrent than strive to understand it. Badness exists, sure, but even that’s quite rare. By and large, humans are kind. Self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes, but kind. Generous and wonderful and kind. No greater revelation has come from our journey than this.

Yes, Austin and Geoghegan were unwise to carry this Pollyannish philosophy into Muslim Central Asia, but they didn’t originate it. In this sad episode, ISIS is not the only one with blood on their hands.

Where did Austin get the idea that “evil is a make-believe concept? Perhaps in today’s universities, which are saturated with moral relativism, contemptuous of absolutes, and dogmatically convinced that there is no dispute between people that can’t be settled by mutually respectful “dialogue.”

This perspective dominates contemporary culture, and is taken for granted even at the highest level. When Barack Obama and John Kerry entered into negotiations with the Islamic Republic of Iran, they were working upon the assumption that it was wrong to think that people “are not to be trusted” and that “people are evil.” Obama and Kerry were essentially embracing the idea that “evil is a make-believe concept.” That the mullahs were perhaps “self-interested sometimes, myopic sometimes,” but ultimately good-hearted. The Leftist intelligentsia was and still is unanimous in applauding that initiative.

Likewise, it is a matter of dogmatic certainty for the Left that Islam is a religion of peace, and that only racist, bigoted “Islamophobes” think otherwise. Why should Austin and Geoghegan have had any reason to be concerned about bicycle riding through the Muslim-majority countries of Central Asia?

After all, those who don’t believe that “evil is a make-believe concept” are subject to furious and concerted demonization. The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) — and the establishment media that treats the SPLC as if it were a reliable source — sees only one group of genuinely evil people in the world. Those who recognize that there are evil forces in the world that are set against the United States, and who want to protect Americans against Islamic jihadists, criminal migrants, and more, are the only evil ones. Austin and Geoghegan no doubt had nothing but contempt for such “intolerance” and “hate” manifested by foes of jihad terror and unrestricted illegal immigration.

The Left forces people to believe these fantasies, lest they be charged with “hatred” and “bigotry.”…

They were simply killed by believing in the left's propaganda.

[Stirfry]

This is absolutely true. I know some people here complain about the lack of sympathy regarding the fate of the cyclists, but I think that’s missing the point.

These people put themselves directly in harms way (regardless of what the state department says about traveling in that country), because of an unrealistic, unscientific, corrupt, politically motivated and ultimately baseless philosophy. A philosophy directly advocated by authority figures in academia and the government, who are the ones responsible for their deaths.

[Aurini]

(08-17-2018 05:02 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 02:37 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

snip

1. Women getting raped/killed in countries like Haiti - notable case this one that got raped on a roof by an "oppressed" black man as she screamed that she read Malcolm X

Happens constantly in Africa. Africa is all safe and fine until it isn't. Even supposedly stable and safe countries like Botswana have through-the-roof rape, murder and kidnapping rates.

2. Women who travel to Palestine because they feel with the poor oppressed Palestinians. There are hundreds of women who entered the area, were then forcibly married to a local men and were never again allowed to leave or even contact their family back home.

Read recently an article on the topic, because of how often it happens. It's sometimes literally a few dozen miles away from the oppressive state of Israel and they are set to live in captivity for the rest of their lives.

3. Women who marry enlightened oppressed Muslim men - hundreds of thousands of Western women doing it in the West. They know nothing about Islam when usually converting. 10% of the marriages are happy and fine, often because the Muslim is very secular, extremely loving or an undercover Ex-Muslim. The divorce rate however is approaching 80% (if they can divorce living in the West).

The foundation Estera helps women get out of those relationships safely and has some stats compiled. The death rate of women is at times approaching their chances of being happy in a Muslim marriage. The number of women who get their kids taken away to a Muslim country is somewhere around 15-20%.

Most of this is based on simply indoctrination about the true nature of the religion. They usually find out about it until it is too late and they are married with a child on the way. Standard fare - before conversion given a book by Rumi (who was killed by Muslims btw), afterwards find out that Rumi's teachings did not have much to do with Islam at all. (Wine drinking Persian mystic was more a Zoroastran than Muslim.)

4. Women get constantly raped and murdered in the West now as they embrace the lovely refugees. There are so many cases of refugee aid workers who experience violence, that we could cite dozens of articles.


5. Couples traveling in dangerous location in their blue-eyed pacifist equalist mindset.

I can think of this one here, but also the one in Africa who got shot by some warlord group and even put on the internet.


Of course those things can change over time, but a wise man calculates his chances with each endeavor. Travel, bangs - certainly marriages have to be put on a risk-reward ratio.

What the couple did was the equivalent of an 80yo rich Gamma male marrying a 21yo woman whose last 2 husbands died mysterious deaths. If the woman had been biking alone through Marocco and Egypt, then she would likely already be dead. They were safer as a couple until they met a more believing Islamic group of men.

This could have happened to them in some areas in Egypt or Lebanon - nothing special about it.

It's really funny if you think about it that the average liberal woman is being told lies about mostly harmless things:

+ rape culture in colleges - especially White frat boys
+ Hollywood moguls and powerful men sometimes badly flirting with them while fucking them can sometimes bring great dividends (almost all of those encounters were just calculated bangs for profit and not rape)
+ evil Trump supporters and male supremacist "pro-rape" groups like us - they are literally Nazis

Harmless and oppressed:

- Muslim refugees
- ghetto blacks in rough parts of town - they are just exciting bad boys (cultured educated black men are almost as bad as those terrible white privileged men)
- Anyone brown and not White anywhere in the world - even if it's a violence infested country where killing someone for 100$ is legit

So the women in the West are literally brainwashed to fear those who could protect them and embrace those who might rape and kill them at a much higher rate. It's bizarre how good their propaganda works.

One of my rules is that, if you're going to put yourself under my protection, then I expect you to follow orders immediately and without question. This seldom comes up (I am not a bully) but when it does, I cannot risk you wavering, any more than I can deal with a rider on the back of my motorcycle who leans against the turns.

Thinks can escalate faster than most people realize, and few have developed the instincts for this. Most of the time with North Americans, they'll freeze up - wait for the authorities to deal with things, try not to escalate by admitting that the surface friendliness is gone - they don't trust their own instincts anymore, they instead trust their socialized training.

But if that's the case, then don't put yourself under my protection. Get off the back of my motorcycle, and call an Uber. Because now you're just going to get both of us killed.

[debeguiled]

@Aurini

Long ago, when I was in a relationship based on equality (yeah, I know), and I didn't even really know the woman was under my protection or that I expected her to follow my rules (because equality), she did something really stupid while we were travelling which could have been dangerous to not only to us, but her kids. She explained what she had done, trying to downplay it, and I repeated it back in horror, knowing I would have to act immediately to remedy it. She started in on trying to make it my fault (But you said. . . .) and I did something I had never done before in our gender equal relationship.

I held up one finger, said "Just stop!" and ran off to make it better.

Like you say, people, women especially, have no instincts for the sudden onset of a risky situation, and in my example, she just wanted to continue on with our normal comfortable-couple-back-and-forth as if our own little personal reality could still be treated as if it were all the reality that mattered.

You guys would have laughed at me back then, bending over backward to be fair, and to give females the chances they never had, to downgrade myself.

Funny though, that when something serious suddenly happens, even a beta like I was at the time, has it within himself to suddenly trust his own intuitions and perceptions, and shut down the female bullshit instantly in order to focus on the matter at hand.

I was surprised at myself after it happened. Wondering who that man was and where he came from.

Also, the raised finger and the 'just stop' might be of use to any of you when your girl forgets her promise to stop her pointless yapping when things get hairy.

[ChicagoFire]

Me personally I extend this to giving advice if people want my expertise on certain topics. For example, I've been in the food industry for nearly 7 years and seen nearly everything. I personally will tell you that going to culinary school is overrated and will merely teach you how to talk the talk. If you want to walk the walk it's all in your hands in this day and age. I will point blank tell you when I do something I go for it all and I don't get insecure if you rise up with me. I have contact with experts in various fields and I'll shoot the shit with them but if I were to get into their field I would dive in and do everything they ask. It's not being bossy or being a little pushover.

General rule of thumb if people can't follow basic tasks or orders fuck them. Let them make those hard mistakes, let them marry the hussy that will divorce rape them, etc. If you ignore the history of Islam, ignore government warnings to not visit certain areas, and listen to a whitewashed bastardized version of what the media is selling you then you deserve to get what this stupid couple got. PERIOD. I'm shocked they weren't sold as sex slaves. When people wonder why I'm so heartless I don't even bother explaining.

(08-23-2018 02:21 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

One of my rules is that, if you're going to put yourself under my protection, then I expect you to follow orders immediately and without question. This seldom comes up (I am not a bully) but when it does, I cannot risk you wavering, any more than I can deal with a rider on the back of my motorcycle who leans against the turns.

Thinks can escalate faster than most people realize, and few have developed the instincts for this. Most of the time with North Americans, they'll freeze up - wait for the authorities to deal with things, try not to escalate by admitting that the surface friendliness is gone - they don't trust their own instincts anymore, they instead trust their socialized training.

But if that's the case, then don't put yourself under my protection. Get off the back of my motorcycle, and call an Uber. Because now you're just going to get both of us killed.

[Aurini]

(08-23-2018 02:45 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

@Aurini

Long ago, when I was in a relationship based on equality (yeah, I know), and I didn't even really know the woman was under my protection or that I expected her to follow my rules (because equality), she did something really stupid while we were travelling which could have been dangerous to not only to us, but her kids. She explained what she had done, trying to downplay it, and I repeated it back in horror, knowing I would have to act immediately to remedy it. She started in on trying to make it my fault (But you said. . . .) and I did something I had never done before in our gender equal relationship.

Now I want to know the details.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I posted this in the migrant thread, but it is fitting here as well.

This is the face of a German likely refugee-loving woman who got stabbed in a supermarket last year by a Muslim enricher:



thread-50253...pid1840035

This is the face she made when the craphead was asked why he did it or whether he regretted his deed.

He responded, that he did nothing wrong according to Islam - when you are attacked, you stab, you kill, what's the deal? Keep in mind that this was some kind of quarrel between teens - a local 14yo German boy and he and another Muslim shithead. The knives came out of course on the side of the blessed enrichers. The woman wanted to stop the attack and is now severely impacted for life as she suffered internal wounds.

When you think about the Millennials, then this is the face they would make if they had survived the attack and they caught the perps. The perps would have seen nothing wrong with killing a bunch of infidels, murder of infidel women is specifically allowed except for jizya-protected women (and even then the punishment isn't severe in most cases for Muslims).

[debeguiled]

(08-23-2018 11:05 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

(08-23-2018 02:45 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

@Aurini

Long ago, when I was in a relationship based on equality (yeah, I know), and I didn't even really know the woman was under my protection or that I expected her to follow my rules (because equality), she did something really stupid while we were travelling which could have been dangerous to not only to us, but her kids. She explained what she had done, trying to downplay it, and I repeated it back in horror, knowing I would have to act immediately to remedy it. She started in on trying to make it my fault (But you said. . . .) and I did something I had never done before in our gender equal relationship.

Now I want to know the details.

Can't do it. Not that great a story though.

[renotime]

Jeez, SS, way to condemn a woman for stepping in to save a German kid's life.

That cunt Merkel's the one to blame.

And I think the Muslim is only getting charged with attempted manslaughter and at tops is getting 10 years because he's only 17. He should be sent back to Syria.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-24-2018 01:36 PM)renotime Wrote:  

Jeez, SS, way to condemn a woman for stepping in to save a German kid's life.

That cunt Merkel's the one to blame.

And I think the Muslim is only getting charged with attempted manslaughter and at tops is getting 10 years because he's only 17. He should be sent back to Syria.

I think it was one of her family who got into trouble with the enrichers. He probably did not start it, but you have to be careful around them.

I am not condemning her for trying to go in between. But she erroneously assumed that the old rules of masculine conflict apply:

+ a woman can separate men without getting stabbed or beaten to a pulp in between
+ violence is reciprocated with adequate violence - when you say a word, you don't escalate instantly to a knife

Knowing that then she should have looked for a weapon or screamed for help.

Also her behavior during the court clearly clearly shows that she wanted to get some kind of remorse and explanation from him. When she heard that he did not regret anything, that he even called this behavior sanctioned by Islam, that is when her entire worldview was crushed.

And that is when the pic likely got taken - you see a woman's progressive liberal views getting crushed publicly in that very moment.

Merkel was only the last step along the way - you would have to blame the entire mass media, the schemers and the manipulators. And yes - there is somewhat of a responsibility on her front for believing it all, for suckling up all that crud - that we are all equal, that all religions and cultures are equal, that all races are equal.

Any conflict - even the most harmless ones with Muslims - can escalate into a deadly one. In Poland 2 Muslim kebab shop employees killed a Polish boy for grabbing a can of coca cola and running away. They ran after him and killed him with the kebab knife. That is the Muslim way of conflict resolution.

Now she knows and now the Millennial couple knows.

And it does not mean that I don't have sympathy for the woman just as I have sympathy for the couple. At least their delusions were ones of peace. The 17yo shithead? I would have him publicly impaled for days. He will do much worse than that in his new wonderful homecountry of Germany.

[renotime]

I don't think screaming for help in Germany would help. All the men there are fags. In fact, her boyfriend was with her.

So if you are to believe Wikipedia, she was in a grocery store with her boyfriend and she broke up a fight between two Syrian immigrant relatives, which is fucking stupid. And her man was even dumber for allowing it to happen. They then ran into the Syrians again on the street with the 17 year old in tow and that's when the girl got stabbed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Burgw..._note-:3-9

So you are probably right when you say she is refugee loving. I thought she was trying to protect some 14 year old German kid from getting stabbed, while brave is also dumb. So my mistake.

And these stabbings seem to getting more and more common. And a lot of them have been young women.

https://www.thelocal.de/20180612/teenage...st-germany

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07...ofluebeck/

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10488...-stabbings

But I still believe the brunt of the blame lies with Merkel. Hungary, Czech, Romania, Serbia, and the like haven't taken in any refugees, but they have certainly felt the pressure to do so. And how many terrorist attacks have they had in the last 5 years?

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-24-2018 05:59 PM)renotime Wrote:  

I don't think screaming for help in Germany would help. All the men there are fags. In fact, her boyfriend was with her.

So if you are to believe Wikipedia, she was in a grocery store with her boyfriend and she broke up a fight between two Syrian immigrant relatives, which is fucking stupid. And her man was even dumber for allowing it to happen. They then ran into the Syrians again on the street with the 17 year old in tow and that's when the girl got stabbed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Burgw..._note-:3-9

So you are probably right when you say she is refugee loving. I thought she was trying to protect some 14 year old German kid from getting stabbed, while brave is also dumb. So my mistake.

And these stabbings seem to getting more and more common. And a lot of them have been young women.

Haven't looked even in detail into the story, but now I did:

http://www.haz.de/Hannover/Aus-der-Stadt...alla-M.-zu


Happened in an idyllic part of town.

The story is even worse and both of them were careless. She (a cashier at a local supermarket) and her boyfriend were using discipline on a 13yo and a 14yo rapefugee because they started to loudly dispute in a supermarket. Her boyfriend seems to have even pulled one boy's ear. The boys went off, but obviously felt insulted.

First major error - they treated them like they would treat boisterous German boys.

The boys went off and returned with an older more aggressive 17yo relative - that led to some pushing and a quick knife attack. The girl tried to separate her boyfriend from the attacker.

No offense, but literally no one of us would likely attempt anything like that. Honor is a major theme for them and this would have had repercussions. If you start trouble with them then be prepared for the worst - even the first interaction with the 2 boys was unnecessary.

Roosh recently told a story where he went to a yoga session at a park and berated a bunch of pot smoking rap-hearing youths - that they should go away. And of course they did, because that is Poland. Doing the same with a bunch of German enrichers would not have been advisable.

Most of the time when one of them got aggressive with me I watched him and then walked off. There is no reason to escalate things so long as they don't touch or hurt me or the people around me.

When I read the story of how she wanted to ask her attacker, then I knew that she still did not understand the reality. Now she will have to live with a severely impacted health for life.

My heart goes out to those people who are sacrificed on the altar of a fake utopia. That mutlicultural utopia with a large Muslim and African population in Europe simply won't work - there will be war later on. Merkel is of course largely responsible for it, but it all depends which powerstructure of our world you think is the most likely. In mine she is just a lower-mid-tier minion who was given marching orders by her handlers. A mere 6 years ago she was saying that even the old Turkish immigration was a failure - and the Turks were far better than the current psycho-bunch.

You cannot go through world blue-eyed. You have to take a good look at the facts of reality - especially when your survival may depend on it. I am confident in my ability to recognize a saintly Muslim or Arab, or factual Ex-Muslim. But I also know what this does to a people over 1400 years.

Here the perp and the stabbings in 2 days alone:



In rural Germany that is what I would called the passing of a busted dude test:



The brother of the shithead of course excuses him - obviously they must have insulted him heavily:

Yeah - the couple above looks as if they are likely to go into much high-T action.

And here you see a report:

At 01:00 you see a rapefugee and his German "mama" - an aid worker who likely doubles down as sexual release. That is common everywhere you go. Those old harpies adopting their new sex-children. When that older guy said that he does not think that most of them are "students" and future engineers, then that shithead started to grin. I would have loved to wipe his stupid grin off.

One of the Germans then said that the mood has already shifted and it will shift even more.

As for screaming for help in Germany - it depends - this was in a quiet street - any help would have come too late. If you do it in cities, then locals can come to your help - there are still many shitlords there.

Some of our German RVF members only go out armed with a baton or something similar.

[Foolsgo1d]

(08-17-2018 01:43 PM)renotime Wrote:  

I'd bet any of you money that Colombia is far more dangerous than Tajikistan, but that hasn't stopped plenty of dudes on here from going down South.

These people just got stupidly unlucky.

Cartels are business.

People who hate Westerners usually dont care about anything except being personal with a weapon or car.

I've come across plenty of drug dealers and gangs and they have no beef unless you start something or the gang wants to extort you. But coming across Muslims you sense a different kind of pathology.

[renotime]

One of the cartels' main moneymakers is kidnapping and extortion. I'd much rather take my chances in Tajikistan than in Juarez.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(08-25-2018 01:56 AM)renotime Wrote:  

One of the cartels' main moneymakers is kidnapping and extortion. I'd much rather take my chances in Tajikistan than in Juarez.

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/...or-ransom#

It's over-reported and it usually involves wealthy locals and not tourists. In the Philippines it's of course Muslims again.

Even when you assume 500-5000 kidnappings in areas of 100 mio. people, then it pales to the danger waiting for you in Muslim countries.

1.5 mio. of Merkel's children committed 200.000-250.000 crimes with many violent crimes rising by hundreds of percent in the country. I doubt that inviting 1.5 mio. South Americans would produce such staggering crime stats.