[Sewage2016]

I’ve been trying to decide whether I have better success getting women to give it up based on lust or love towards me. Numbers wise I am definitely more successful getting them to feel they are starting to love what I bring and am saying to them. I compliment them, listen to their boring stories (within limits), make them feel important and whisper things that get them wet. I also have a pretty glam social life with lots of work travel, friends with restaurants and bars, and have tickets to a lot of events from philanthropic contributions to the arts. I can plan unique and great dates if I want. I like almost all races but particularly like EE and Colombianas.

I’m about 6ft, slim and have the look of a corporate executive / doctor which is what I am. That tends to pigeon hole me into the LTR category from their point of view. I’m also in my 40s so I think high provider is their expectation from the start.

Trouble is the game to make them begin to fall for you in order to give it up is long term game. And I am just getting tired of longer term strategy.

My question to you guys - has anyone successfully transitioned from high provider game to ONS lust game and what did you do?

Sewage

[ShuaiGe]

A relevant page from The Mystery Method.

[JohnQPublic]

(08-03-2018 10:04 PM)Sewage2016 Wrote:  

My question to you guys - has anyone successfully transitioned from high provider game to ONS lust game and what did you do?

Sewage

I haven't done "High Provider Game" in the sense that I'm buying her stuff and spending lots of money on her so she keeps coming around for what she will get. But I think that if you want ONS you are fishing in a different pool than for LTR. Just reading a couple of your posts about social circle, friends with bars, etc. Unless you're in an environment were everybody is doing ONS and they don't care much if their friends know or you ignore them the next time you see them, it'll be a lot harder to get ONS from girls who think they will keep running in to you.

Get the ONS when you are more or less anonymous and go for the LTR from the high value girls you can meet from work, social circle and upscale events. The opportunity for ONS will present itself in those situations too. But just know that the girl in those situations is worried about her social standing too, so if you get the ONS then ghost her, she could become the scorned bitch and negatively impact your future possibilities.

If you are the provider, girls will do what they think they need to, for that to continue. So if you want the ONS that might not work too well. You can present a desirable lifestyle by taking a girl to places and maybe doing things they wouldn't get to do otherwise, all with game in mind (trendy restaurants and bars with sexy girls) and if she thinks those girls are easy and that's your circle, if she likes it she will try to adapt. If you talk about work, your family life and day to day things, she will think THAT is your life and if she likes that she will be that girl.

[RatInTheWoods]

They are nearly always going to see you as DAD, not CHAD.

Your age, vibe, style and natural social scenario screams provider game.

Which isn't all bad, as I think the the higher quality women are the sless slutty three date Kates, than the ONS stacies.