Why are guys even consider fat ladies. Stop online and you want get catfished.
Fatness as a core problem in dating field nowadays
Yeah, 90’s of the matches I get on tinder and bumble are fat white chicks. It seems they just hang out behind their phones and just swipe on every guy. In Calgary there is a culture of everyone working out, going to the gym, running and so on, so it’s weird all these fat chicks be sending me messages. I don’t know if it’s cuz I’m older and thus gaming in an older age group and girls get fatter as they get older , if this is the case I might have to go to the early 20’s age group to game.
OP has a simple observation but hell if it isn't true. Then other posters have mentioned male thirst which is both a cause and consequence of the obesity numbers. Sometimes I wonder which came first, the chicken or the egg.
@griffinmill: Coming from the USA I was very, very impressed with the quality of the girls during the day on the streets, in cafes, in malls, in parks etc. The online girls on the other hand who are prepared to meet just seem to pop up out of the basement. It is apparently too much to ask for online girls in Poland to be pretty and thin now. I remember one girl who was not fat, she had a salsa class before she was going to meet me. I suggested to her that she go home and freshen up i.e. take a shower and put on some pretty clothes but she arrived, not fat, but the most uninspiring plain jane I've ever come across. I assumed due to the dancing she would be quite sexual but she was just emanating nothing but boringness. We were having drinks and next to us was a busted polish skinhead walking in with a legit stunner dressed to the nines. Comparing what I was out with and that chick right there hurt more than you would think. My date even showed me around the city and was almost like a tourguide, even dropped me off a street away from my house when she refused to come up for drinks (my offer was feeble though, I just couldn't say it with any conviction). Even if a cute polish girl in the day dresses plain, there is so often something adorable about her. Girls in the day who see themselves as plain janes are actually my favorite bunch. But there must be some underground supply/demand shit going on in Poland because I don't feel a sense of actually having realistic access to these cute girls who seem to make up the majority of the population when you walk the streets, then you go online and the trolls come up out of their basements. The 1 of the 2 not ugly girls I banged was a late 20s Ukrainian, hardly a stunner but decently pretty.
@griffinmill: Coming from the USA I was very, very impressed with the quality of the girls during the day on the streets, in cafes, in malls, in parks etc. The online girls on the other hand who are prepared to meet just seem to pop up out of the basement. It is apparently too much to ask for online girls in Poland to be pretty and thin now. I remember one girl who was not fat, she had a salsa class before she was going to meet me. I suggested to her that she go home and freshen up i.e. take a shower and put on some pretty clothes but she arrived, not fat, but the most uninspiring plain jane I've ever come across. I assumed due to the dancing she would be quite sexual but she was just emanating nothing but boringness. We were having drinks and next to us was a busted polish skinhead walking in with a legit stunner dressed to the nines. Comparing what I was out with and that chick right there hurt more than you would think. My date even showed me around the city and was almost like a tourguide, even dropped me off a street away from my house when she refused to come up for drinks (my offer was feeble though, I just couldn't say it with any conviction). Even if a cute polish girl in the day dresses plain, there is so often something adorable about her. Girls in the day who see themselves as plain janes are actually my favorite bunch. But there must be some underground supply/demand shit going on in Poland because I don't feel a sense of actually having realistic access to these cute girls who seem to make up the majority of the population when you walk the streets, then you go online and the trolls come up out of their basements. The 1 of the 2 not ugly girls I banged was a late 20s Ukrainian, hardly a stunner but decently pretty.
Quote: (07-24-2018 07:02 PM)Skank_Hunt Wrote:
OP has a simple observation but hell if it isn't true. Then other posters have mentioned male thirst which is both a cause and consequence of the obesity numbers. Sometimes I wonder which came first, the chicken or the egg.
Feminism and wealthy/easy life (for women and people in general) are the reasons behind male thirst AND increasing obesity.
Of course easy life has also made men more obese and their testosterone levels decline, which in turn have made men less interested in women and sex on average? I don't know but it seems so. Besides thirsty men there are lots of men that don't really have interest in chasing women.. The most famous example being the country of JAPAN.
I am sure there must be other threads on this topic, I even thought of starting one of my own as I consider it the number one issue in the US as far as dating goes.
I simply will not chase any fat or chubby chicks and the stats now are something ridiculous like 75% overweight and 40% + obese. This will obviously vary depending on the area, but it is truly sad when all a girl needs to be now to be considered hot is that she is of a normal height/weight.
I was just in Japan a couple weeks ago, lots of girls that were certainly not that attractive, jacked up teeth etc, but they had good bodies so at the very least they are fuckable....most American girls? No way.
I realize many on here may be younger so gaming girls in their 20s in the US may be better, but everything I see post late 20s and into 30s are headed for obesity.
I am not the best looking dude by far, but have a bit going on, few bucks in my pocket and spend a lot of time in the gym keeping fit and tight. I just do not see the US as a viable option anymore, sad but true.
I simply will not chase any fat or chubby chicks and the stats now are something ridiculous like 75% overweight and 40% + obese. This will obviously vary depending on the area, but it is truly sad when all a girl needs to be now to be considered hot is that she is of a normal height/weight.
I was just in Japan a couple weeks ago, lots of girls that were certainly not that attractive, jacked up teeth etc, but they had good bodies so at the very least they are fuckable....most American girls? No way.
I realize many on here may be younger so gaming girls in their 20s in the US may be better, but everything I see post late 20s and into 30s are headed for obesity.
I am not the best looking dude by far, but have a bit going on, few bucks in my pocket and spend a lot of time in the gym keeping fit and tight. I just do not see the US as a viable option anymore, sad but true.
How old are you and why aren't you banging early 20 year olds?
I'm mid 20s and if I don't find a wife I'll be banging the 18-25 demographic until I physically can't anymore. Unless I fail to maintain my SMV I see absolutely no reason not to
I've banged some 30+ broads and unless they are stupid fine for their age it ends up being kind of gross. Bad skin, annoying habits, worse attitude. Man women just don't age well.
I'm mid 20s and if I don't find a wife I'll be banging the 18-25 demographic until I physically can't anymore. Unless I fail to maintain my SMV I see absolutely no reason not to
I've banged some 30+ broads and unless they are stupid fine for their age it ends up being kind of gross. Bad skin, annoying habits, worse attitude. Man women just don't age well.
The biggest issue is men not approaching. This gives too much power and leverage to fat girls who can now choose from a large pool of shy but average to even good looking men.
If more men approached, they'd be more aware of their options and also more picky, cause they would have more abundance. That would put more pressure on girls to look good instead of knowing that thirsty but shy dudes will give them endless validation on tinder
If more men approached, they'd be more aware of their options and also more picky, cause they would have more abundance. That would put more pressure on girls to look good instead of knowing that thirsty but shy dudes will give them endless validation on tinder
Quote: (07-26-2018 10:51 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:
The biggest issue is men not approaching. This gives too much power and leverage to fat girls who can now choose from a large pool of shy but average to even good looking men.
The core of the problem is that women are not dependent on men anymore and they value many things in life perhaps even more than having affairs with men. Like eating (too much), career and traveling. Women don't NEED men as much as men seem to NEED women. Ok, if women want to have children, then they need a man (for a while anyways), but that is kinda bad argument since I happen to live in a country where young women don't seem to even wanna have children anymore...
Women have lots of interests in life besides men and sex, and they can lead a relatively satisfying life without having much intimate encounters. They rather "eat well" (well that's an oxymoron) and get fat than trying to look attractive to men. They rather "lose" men than lose good food. Good food is more addictive to them.
^^^Good points. Further, everyone considers themselves a gotdamn “foodie” these days which essentially means they’re gluttonous for anything that makes them feel good. Let us not underestimate the powers of marketing and the effects its had on the masses when it comes to instant gratification.
. . . and whomever mentioned the sad reality that all a basic bish has to do nowadays to be considered hot is just not be fat, this is sooooo fucking true!
. . . and whomever mentioned the sad reality that all a basic bish has to do nowadays to be considered hot is just not be fat, this is sooooo fucking true!
Yeah, personally I would fuck pretty much anyone with a low BMI. That's where to pickiness has to end if you value sex.
Quote: (07-26-2018 11:36 AM)HungJohnson69 Wrote:
Quote: (07-26-2018 10:51 AM)droughtmeat Wrote:
The biggest issue is men not approaching. This gives too much power and leverage to fat girls who can now choose from a large pool of shy but average to even good looking men.
The core of the problem is that women are not dependent on men anymore and they value many things in life perhaps even more than having affairs with men. Like eating (too much), career and traveling. Women don't NEED men as much as men seem to NEED women. Ok, if women want to have children, then they need a man (for a while anyways), but that is kinda bad argument since I happen to live in a country where young women don't seem to even wanna have children anymore...
Women have lots of interests in life besides men and sex, and they can lead a relatively satisfying life without having much intimate encounters. They rather "eat well" (well that's an oxymoron) and get fat than trying to look attractive to men. They rather "lose" men than lose good food. Good food is more addictive to them.
True, but it goes both ways. A woman would serve zero purpose in my life. There's absolutely nothing she can add, apart from being a mom, that I would truly benefit from. Even when I see my friends break up with their girlfriends it,s not actually cause of the girls behavior, it's because they feel as though having a girlfriend is slowing them down or limiting their experience of life, which is why I also choose not to have a girlfriend.
As far as other things being more addictive than sex, I agree, but it's the same case for men. Fapping is more addictive than sex. Guys can fap 6 times within an hour every day for months. No way anyone is having that amount of sex especially with the same partner.
Just go to clubs with a hard door
Problem solved
If you can’t get in then the issue is you and not the girls
Problem solved
If you can’t get in then the issue is you and not the girls
Lots of hyperbole...
Everyone perception of FAT is different ESPECIALLY when it's FAT in the right places. If that weren't true all skinny models would have 100k followers and NOT some chick with average sized body or chubby with a FAT ass or tits.
Also the girls most guys are banging are average sized to chubby girls. Like other dude said it's only high end venues where your more likely to see slim/skinny/petite/fit chicks. Even NOW those so called thick chicks with fat ass, hour glass shape, or big tits can get into high end venues because that's the trend.
Dudes on here are delusional and throw FAT SHAMING like insecure asexuals. If your fucking skinny white girls then go down to Colombia or brazil where chicks have bigger asses of course they're gonna be considered fat in comparison.
Fuck what you like...why shit on girls you just aren't attracted to?
What is the point of shaming especially when most guys bang average SIZED girls. Makes no sense.
For me personally, there will always be a 1% from my normal preference that I'd fuck, I used to call those types of women "ford trucks" built to stir a sexual response when in reality after fucking ain't no way they're gonna go for a 10mile walk. Such outrageous ass, tits, hip-waist ratio takes a toll on physical mobility...Most fitness chicks are tight yet average sized...
This is why I'm not too crazy about insane asses or tits or ridiculous curves a quick "rail n bail" or just being friends is the closest such chicks get. I prefer tall slim and the most subtle of curves, which MOST would consider "no body at all". Which hey, that's why people fuck the people they're highly attracted to and vice versa.
That said, this sort of OP when you look at how many curvy chicks (whether average sized to full blown obese) have way more followers (<100k) & praise on IG. Whereas skinny " no body" model types are almost always <100k (The exception is almost always actual well known contracted models, P4P chicks or fitness chicks)
No point in being captain obvious that most women carry a bit of fat (chubby?) they still might be cool chicks to add to your life.
What's crazy in Prague some czech chick said "Czech girls are the fattest women of Europe, news said it"
Do you know what was classifying them as the fattest? Natural bigger thighs/hips making them more likely to look average sized. A handful had low key fat asses yet average size overall, no different than an average sized latina with a nice ass who in her environment would be overlooked because the amount of phat ass latinas.
So you see how retarded this all is? I've heard men mention different women all over the world as being fine. Heck, look at the "What Do You Guys Consider A 10?" Thread...
Majority of the women posted are average sized to chubby. Any dude who mentions a chick having an "ass" who isn't referring to thick chicks are almost always talking about average/normal sized women.
So called "skinny" chick isn't gonna have anything beyond a nice ripe ass. It's physically highly unlikely a skinny chick would have the ass that most dudes are going crazy over calling themselves an ass-man.
Good example is Sommer Ray chick, there is no way a skinny girl can have such an ass without getting a fake ass. The chick is a normal/average sized chick who has a bigger lower body. Take away all the fat from her lower body and she'd be just another skinny chick with <100k.
Now keep in mind while it's NOT my type, this is a chick you'll fat shame? Highly doubt it...So how can you create this hyperbole when many women are her size (just different distributions of fat amongst their body)
Even if NOT your type, if trapped on an island and hormones kicking your not gonna say "na no sex" GTFOH.
Stop crying about whether a chick is fat or not and go hookup with chicks who gives you those strong sexual responses. Who gives a fuck what you or some other person would label her as.
Sometimes it sounds like there needs to be a future AI sex doll where dudes can just hand select all the superficial details because the way some of y'all sound it's as if your having sex with an "object" rather than an actual woman.
P.S...In black cultures or anyone leaning towards bigger girls that sommer ray chick would be considered a SKINNY chick with a fat ass.
P.S.S...Go have sex, stop complaining & shitting on chicks just because your not attracted...And drop the hyperbole as if "skinny" girls were ever the mass majority. Majority is still normal size, they may get bigger with age BUT in essence most people like average size chicks because most like big asses & tits.
Everyone perception of FAT is different ESPECIALLY when it's FAT in the right places. If that weren't true all skinny models would have 100k followers and NOT some chick with average sized body or chubby with a FAT ass or tits.
Also the girls most guys are banging are average sized to chubby girls. Like other dude said it's only high end venues where your more likely to see slim/skinny/petite/fit chicks. Even NOW those so called thick chicks with fat ass, hour glass shape, or big tits can get into high end venues because that's the trend.
Dudes on here are delusional and throw FAT SHAMING like insecure asexuals. If your fucking skinny white girls then go down to Colombia or brazil where chicks have bigger asses of course they're gonna be considered fat in comparison.
Fuck what you like...why shit on girls you just aren't attracted to?
What is the point of shaming especially when most guys bang average SIZED girls. Makes no sense.
For me personally, there will always be a 1% from my normal preference that I'd fuck, I used to call those types of women "ford trucks" built to stir a sexual response when in reality after fucking ain't no way they're gonna go for a 10mile walk. Such outrageous ass, tits, hip-waist ratio takes a toll on physical mobility...Most fitness chicks are tight yet average sized...
This is why I'm not too crazy about insane asses or tits or ridiculous curves a quick "rail n bail" or just being friends is the closest such chicks get. I prefer tall slim and the most subtle of curves, which MOST would consider "no body at all". Which hey, that's why people fuck the people they're highly attracted to and vice versa.
That said, this sort of OP when you look at how many curvy chicks (whether average sized to full blown obese) have way more followers (<100k) & praise on IG. Whereas skinny " no body" model types are almost always <100k (The exception is almost always actual well known contracted models, P4P chicks or fitness chicks)
No point in being captain obvious that most women carry a bit of fat (chubby?) they still might be cool chicks to add to your life.
What's crazy in Prague some czech chick said "Czech girls are the fattest women of Europe, news said it"
Do you know what was classifying them as the fattest? Natural bigger thighs/hips making them more likely to look average sized. A handful had low key fat asses yet average size overall, no different than an average sized latina with a nice ass who in her environment would be overlooked because the amount of phat ass latinas.
So you see how retarded this all is? I've heard men mention different women all over the world as being fine. Heck, look at the "What Do You Guys Consider A 10?" Thread...
Majority of the women posted are average sized to chubby. Any dude who mentions a chick having an "ass" who isn't referring to thick chicks are almost always talking about average/normal sized women.
So called "skinny" chick isn't gonna have anything beyond a nice ripe ass. It's physically highly unlikely a skinny chick would have the ass that most dudes are going crazy over calling themselves an ass-man.
Good example is Sommer Ray chick, there is no way a skinny girl can have such an ass without getting a fake ass. The chick is a normal/average sized chick who has a bigger lower body. Take away all the fat from her lower body and she'd be just another skinny chick with <100k.
Now keep in mind while it's NOT my type, this is a chick you'll fat shame? Highly doubt it...So how can you create this hyperbole when many women are her size (just different distributions of fat amongst their body)
Even if NOT your type, if trapped on an island and hormones kicking your not gonna say "na no sex" GTFOH.
Stop crying about whether a chick is fat or not and go hookup with chicks who gives you those strong sexual responses. Who gives a fuck what you or some other person would label her as.
Sometimes it sounds like there needs to be a future AI sex doll where dudes can just hand select all the superficial details because the way some of y'all sound it's as if your having sex with an "object" rather than an actual woman.
P.S...In black cultures or anyone leaning towards bigger girls that sommer ray chick would be considered a SKINNY chick with a fat ass.
P.S.S...Go have sex, stop complaining & shitting on chicks just because your not attracted...And drop the hyperbole as if "skinny" girls were ever the mass majority. Majority is still normal size, they may get bigger with age BUT in essence most people like average size chicks because most like big asses & tits.
Quote: (07-30-2018 10:13 AM)Distant Light Wrote:
What's crazy in Prague some czech chick said "Czech girls are the fattest women of Europe, news said it"
Do you know what was classifying them as the fattest? Natural bigger thighs/hips making them more likely to look average sized.
According to source I posted earlier, there might be some truth to Czech chicks in fact being relatively fat:
Quote: (07-23-2018 08:28 AM)HungJohnson69 Wrote:
Eastern Europe is in fact quite obese, but this doesn't necessarily mean that young women in particular are. In any case, the most obese EE country seems to be Czech Republic with an obesity rate of 26,80% (BMI30+) according to this: https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/
I haven't ever been in Czech Republic so I have no opinion on the matter, but it seems that there are thinner nationalities in Europe for sure.
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P.S.S...Go have sex, stop complaining & shitting on chicks just because your not attracted...And drop the hyperbole as if "skinny" girls were ever the mass majority. Majority is still normal size, they may get bigger with age BUT in essence most people like average size chicks because most like big asses & tits.
Everybody likes what they like, but the truth of the matter is, people have gotten much bigger in a few decades and it not only has limited the options of men who like slim/fit (or what used to be "normal") women but also affected game in general.
And by the way, the optimal BMI for a woman according to worldwide men's questionaire is ~21. So there. It's pretty, pretty far from the current reality of an average woman, but pretty close to what especially young women used to be like in the past (past 300.000 years until 1990s or 2000s).
I actually stumbled across a group of anglo-saxon tourists yesterday ( I am in Albania). Not sure if they were from the USA , Canada or Australia. But one of the three.
about 90% of people were OBESE. not just fat but OBESE.
and as it s very hot most of the "women" were showing their skin , with about 80% of them having cellulitis and their legs looked like jamon.
I don't have high standards but I really feel for my american counterparts. Guys I send you all my support.
about 90% of people were OBESE. not just fat but OBESE.
and as it s very hot most of the "women" were showing their skin , with about 80% of them having cellulitis and their legs looked like jamon.
I don't have high standards but I really feel for my american counterparts. Guys I send you all my support.
10-15 years ago, in Romania, ît was a big shame for a girl to be just a little overweight. Nowdays , even the obese women receive a lot of attention and "validation" on social media, so they don't have any reason to get slim.
Another thing is that very few women are going toate gym because they pretend they are always "tired" .
We should make the overweight women we meet to feel shameful because of their poor looks.
Another thing is that very few women are going toate gym because they pretend they are always "tired" .
We should make the overweight women we meet to feel shameful because of their poor looks.
Quote: (08-01-2018 02:23 AM)Polniy_Sostav Wrote:
I actually stumbled across a group of anglo-saxon tourists yesterday ( I am in Albania). Not sure if they were from the USA , Canada or Australia. But one of the three.
about 90% of people were OBESE. not just fat but OBESE.
and as it s very hot most of the "women" were showing their skin , with about 80% of them having cellulitis and their legs looked like jamon.
I don't have high standards but I really feel for my american counterparts. Guys I send you all my support.
I am sure you're not seeing any obese girl in my home country and I bet looking at those landwhales was shocking...
I am on the reversed side...I came from Albania to USA and what a shock that was.
Cheers! I hope you're enjoying Albania!
@kuqezi i have worked with English people in some other country before so I knew the feeling... but still it's shocking. Albanian girls are slim but of course in the next 20-30 years things will change.
But as a West-European I still believe that I would be shocked if i had to visit the USA or Canada...
But as a West-European I still believe that I would be shocked if i had to visit the USA or Canada...
@Hung yes chicks are bigger than 70s-90s BUT when people aren't used to what used to be the norm, really doesn't matter...
Guys still gonna bang average sized & bigger depending on if their proportioned in the right places. I've come across few guys (only 1 who is super strict) who only bangs skinny/slim girls.
There are certain fetishes where chick is average sized or above that I've dabbled in the past for whatever reason. Yes harder nowadays to find chicks that inspires raw sexuality BUT 7 billion people about half are women. Even if 2/3 were fat and only 1/3 of the slim/skinny who were in the 1/3 of ripped age...
That's still about 400mil chicks of ripe age who are slim/skinny/average sized. Most guys have 4-12 partners in a lifetime...Average community dude are 10-50 and the dudes slaying all 100+ (most aren't even slaying all skinny chicks) And probable both non-community & community dudes who slay 100+ banged some of the same chicks
Objectively unless 90% of women were fat, there is no scarcity. You will never meet nor bang the millions of women who would fit your type.
If you like big asses, tits or curvy women your options jump up even higher.
P.S...This is why I loved high end venues, I like tall chicks and majority of women used to be slim/skinny/average until this THICK craze started catching on...You know what's crazy, my ex-gf was a redhead BUT prior to her I'd met over 20 redheads that I've fooled around with. Odds of finding a redhead is more rare than finding a slim girl. There isn't nothing to complain about either move in a general area or stop going to joes pub.![[Image: wink.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/wink.gif)
Guys still gonna bang average sized & bigger depending on if their proportioned in the right places. I've come across few guys (only 1 who is super strict) who only bangs skinny/slim girls.
There are certain fetishes where chick is average sized or above that I've dabbled in the past for whatever reason. Yes harder nowadays to find chicks that inspires raw sexuality BUT 7 billion people about half are women. Even if 2/3 were fat and only 1/3 of the slim/skinny who were in the 1/3 of ripped age...
That's still about 400mil chicks of ripe age who are slim/skinny/average sized. Most guys have 4-12 partners in a lifetime...Average community dude are 10-50 and the dudes slaying all 100+ (most aren't even slaying all skinny chicks) And probable both non-community & community dudes who slay 100+ banged some of the same chicks
Objectively unless 90% of women were fat, there is no scarcity. You will never meet nor bang the millions of women who would fit your type.
If you like big asses, tits or curvy women your options jump up even higher.
P.S...This is why I loved high end venues, I like tall chicks and majority of women used to be slim/skinny/average until this THICK craze started catching on...You know what's crazy, my ex-gf was a redhead BUT prior to her I'd met over 20 redheads that I've fooled around with. Odds of finding a redhead is more rare than finding a slim girl. There isn't nothing to complain about either move in a general area or stop going to joes pub.
^I don't what is it about those redheads. But for some reason, there is nothing better than a skinny beautiful redhead
In jamaica, the golden standard is curvy and thick women aka what some of you would called ‘chubby’. I would take a thick girl any day over a slim girl.
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