[asdfk]

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it seemed like a lot of them were on the verge of tears.

Yep. That's what my current city in the US feels like. I'm not sure if I should feel sorry for them or laugh.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(07-18-2018 05:08 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

This is a winning perspective.

I reached a "fuck it" point recently in my game where I started being extremely open about my sexual intent, promiscuity, and desire for casual sex with hot girls.

I stopped hiding this from pretty much every girl who I come into contact with. I'm not hiding shit anymore.

Now, girls smell the player vibe radiating off of me, and they get even more turned on. I'm getting way more eye twinkles and other IOIs from girls that I approach.

Openly demonstrating that I have many options (and being damn happy about it) has been the single most important change that I've made to my game this year.

Like you mentioned, it all comes back to not being thirsty.

When you know that you can get laid from cold approach pick-up, you aren't thirsty by default. You will always have options. This is incredibly empowering, and it's the biggest advantage over Tinder and online dating that I can think of.

I can relate to this. Since getting back into daygame, but in my new German city of Hamburg, I've already noticed how on those occasions where I was running on maximum ZFG and giving off an almost over-the-top sexual vibe, these were the sets that I number closed and where the girl almost asked me for my number, by suggesting we should see each other again (happened to me last night with a hot Spanish girl, mid-20s who I opened in the centre). For example, when she tole me her name, Maria, then added, "like the virgin Maria", I looked her down at her big tits and said whilst looking straight into her eyes with a wry grin, "But you're surely no virgin Maria". This just amped the tension up even more, which led to her giving me another couple of kisses on the cheeks and another hug before I got her number. But the point here is that I wouldn't normally be so cocky in an interaction out of a sense that it's counterproductive. But the more sets I open, the more it seems to become clear that it's better to err on the side of being a bit of an arsehole, albeit a charming one, rather than trying to play it safe. Especially for those guys who aren't tall, muscular and who can get lays simply by running good-looking guy game.

Have you noticed that running a more overtly sexual game is leading to not just more IOIs, but more dates and bangs? And are you running cold approaches in the street with this strategy?

[stefpdt]

You can read all of LINUX's posts for the best example of what I do.

I've made having casual sex with girls part of my personality, so this shines through in all of my interactions. You can't be a player and hide it from the world.

Yes, this absolutely leads to more IOIs, dates and bangs. I'm running cold approaches in the streets and everywhere else that I happen to be while I'm out living my life.

[EndsExpect]

(07-19-2018 11:15 AM)General Stalin Wrote:  

I think this might be more a climate thing than a coastal thing honestly.
I'm sure Washington and Oregon aren't much better than New England and the Tri-state, but in contrast I'm sure SoCal and and Florida are similar. Tropical beach environment just promotes a different sort of attitude and lifestyle than temperate zones with long dreary cold months.

I live in Washington/Oregon. The women in Seattle/Portland are extreme sluts, but you have to hit their check boxes first. The black and white girls are the most loose. Asian and Latinas are a bit tougher... again depending on what boxes you check for them.

The suburban girls are a mix. In LA they are skanky, but in Seattle suburbs for example... they absolutely hate getting pumped and dumped. They do whatever to avoid it. Mostly they fail, but they do put up more of an effort, and they don't tend to be any more attractive.

The rural areas... places nobody here on RVF are hitting up are where things get weird. Lots of religious girls that literally won't put out without a ring. LOTS of very fat and ugly girls. I don't know why but rural women love to eat like shit. Your whole success rate will vary by the town you are in as well. For example, Spokane, WA... the women drink like fish and fuck like rabbits. They hit the wall about age 29 though. Also... the Pullman/Moscow area has about 20,000 girls age 18-23... the college guys kill it there because the ratios of hot girls to high SMV guys is insane. When my cousin lived there he had a stripper pole installed in his house and it got solid use.

[EndsExpect]

(07-20-2018 01:54 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

You can read all of LINUX's posts for the best example of what I do.
I've made having casual sex with girls part of my personality, so this shines through in all of my interactions. You can't be a player and hide it from the world.
Yes, this absolutely leads to more IOIs, dates and bangs. I'm running cold approaches in the streets and everywhere else that I happen to be while I'm out living my life.

Hmm... are you in good shape?

[stefpdt]

Yes I'm in good shape but that shouldn't matter a whole lot.

I think guys underestimate the power of cold approaching during the daytime and telling a girl whatever's on your mind.

"I was just on the way to the grocery store but I had to stop you because I think you look cute."

This shows sexual intent without being needy.

You just chat for a few minutes about literally anything and tell her you're going to take her out for a drink.

How many guys are actually doing these types of cold approaches? 1% of men?

She's going to assume you have balls because no one else is doing this shit.

[EndsExpect]

(07-20-2018 04:03 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

Yes I'm in good shape but that shouldn't matter a whole lot.
I think guys underestimate the power of cold approaching during the daytime and telling a girl whatever's on your mind.
"I was just on the way to the grocery store but I had to stop you because I think you look cute."
This shows sexual intent without being needy.
You just chat for a few minutes about literally anything and tell her you're going to take her out for a drink.
How many guys are actually doing these types of cold approaches? 1% of men?
She's going to assume you have balls because no one else is doing this shit.

Listen, I've been that guy with 6pack abs... and I've been that guy 30lbs overweight.

When you are in shape women respond very differently to open sexual interest. When I gained weight I had to change my approach quite a bit. Even running decent game your success rates will plummet.

This is my honest experience. My confidence level is the same regardless.

[DonnyGately]

(07-18-2018 10:14 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

West Coast sounds like it's a lot better than East Coast in terms of girl's attitudes towards sex. Girls in NJ were not giving it up that easy, usually.

EC girls esp Jersey girls are as easy as they come.

[stefpdt]

(07-20-2018 04:10 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(07-20-2018 04:03 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

Yes I'm in good shape but that shouldn't matter a whole lot.
I think guys underestimate the power of cold approaching during the daytime and telling a girl whatever's on your mind.
"I was just on the way to the grocery store but I had to stop you because I think you look cute."
This shows sexual intent without being needy.
You just chat for a few minutes about literally anything and tell her you're going to take her out for a drink.
How many guys are actually doing these types of cold approaches? 1% of men?
She's going to assume you have balls because no one else is doing this shit.

Listen, I've been that guy with 6pack abs... and I've been that guy 30lbs overweight.

When you are in shape women respond very differently to open sexual interest. When I gained weight I had to change my approach quite a bit. Even running decent game your success rates will plummet.

This is my honest experience. My confidence level is the same regardless.

I should explain that I'm in Eastern Europe where being "in shape" just means that you have a normal body fat percentage. It's normal to be in shape in EE. This is probably the reason why Europeans aren't obsessed with gym culture like most Americans are.

So what I meant was, as long as you aren't fat, your personality and game is what gives you the edge when it comes to having casual relationships with girls.

Looking as good as you possibly can is obviously a bonus.

But I would agree that in America, getting ripped can play a large factor in your SMV.

[The Catalyst]

(07-20-2018 04:03 PM)stefpdt Wrote:  

Yes I'm in good shape but that shouldn't matter a whole lot.

I think guys underestimate the power of cold approaching during the daytime and telling a girl whatever's on your mind.

"I was just on the way to the grocery store but I had to stop you because I think you look cute."

This shows sexual intent without being needy.

You just chat for a few minutes about literally anything and tell her you're going to take her out for a drink.

How many guys are actually doing these types of cold approaches? 1% of men?

She's going to assume you have balls because no one else is doing this shit.

I do that all the time and my success rate is relatively low. But it is winter and there are virtually no targets so I have to wait for summer again...

[asdfk]

It all depends on the market you are in and what you have to offer

Pretending that you are not thirsty during cold approach is one way to leverage a demand for non-thirsty dudes in an oversaturated market.

Similar to being white in a country with only black people. Or a black dude in a white country.

[BadgerHut]

This reminded me of an old RooshV post I can't find that went roughly, "the one advantage every man can have is boldness." It really had an effect on me, I started to notice acting more boldly was both really effective and really easy; it was motivating to think "all I have to do is <whatever move I was going to make> and I'm practically exceptional on that basis alone."

Don't let the thirst around you drag your own game down. Any girl who's been waylaid upon by thirsty guys is desperate for a guy who's not desperate.

[Adonis]

(07-20-2018 03:47 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

I live in Washington/Oregon. The women in Seattle/Portland are extreme sluts, but you have to hit their check boxes first. The black and white girls are the most loose. Asian and Latinas are a bit tougher... again depending on what boxes you check for them.

The suburban girls are a mix. In LA they are skanky, but in Seattle suburbs for example... they absolutely hate getting pumped and dumped. They do whatever to avoid it. Mostly they fail, but they do put up more of an effort, and they don't tend to be any more attractive.

The rural areas... places nobody here on RVF are hitting up are where things get weird. Lots of religious girls that literally won't put out without a ring. LOTS of very fat and ugly girls. I don't know why but rural women love to eat like shit. Your whole success rate will vary by the town you are in as well. For example, Spokane, WA... the women drink like fish and fuck like rabbits. They hit the wall about age 29 though. Also... the Pullman/Moscow area has about 20,000 girls age 18-23... the college guys kill it there because the ratios of hot girls to high SMV guys is insane. When my cousin lived there he had a stripper pole installed in his house and it got solid use.

Co-sign all of this, especially the Moscow part. I swung through there for 24 hrs to get intel for my data sheet and was blown away.

The hardest thing for me was overcoming the extreme cliquishness aka "Seattle Freeze" of local girls. It was easy enough to open and get numbers (especially running by a lake) but getting them out solo was difficult and it seemed like they wanted to run me through auditions with their social circle. Now transplants are a different story altogether, they are where I focused more of my energy and had more success. The tourist towns over the mountains (Leavenworth, Chelan, etc) are a lot easier going, even though most of the girls there are from the city.

You can add thirst to the list of qualities of weak needy men, and no one wants that.