[Pacesetter20]

The UK has officially gone full retard.

[Roosh]

Bottom line is I never imagined they'd turn a plane around. Live and learn.

[Chrome]

I'm surprised they let the plane depart in the first place. Why not make a game of it and book more connecting tickets to see how many planes they will divert until someone recognizes the folly? You could wear your best hashtag trans diversity swag proclaiming your change of heart and bring an emotional support chicken too, for emphasized trolling.

[BlueResolute]

I don't like that Thomas Jefferson quote, mostly cause it's what's being used by the left right now. And there's no drawn line to who it prioritizes more, so it makes unjust and just subjectivity uglier to determine. Still, I'm behind the law of whatever place I reside in less that law threatens my existence as far as death, food, shelter, or water is concerned.

[stugatz]

Well, fuck.

I'm sorry to hear this Roosh. interesting enough, I never really read your blog much... stuff along the lines of this will definitely make me a regular reader.

[h3ltrsk3ltr]

Quote:

After we landed, I asked the American girl for some gum in case I’d have to do some talking. She only had white Tic Tacs. I took them and added, “If they take me off the plane, it was nice sitting next to you.” She gave a weak smile.

Just wait til her xojane article about how she got ptsd from sitting next to the evil Roosh comes out.

[Duke Main]

(07-15-2018 09:55 PM)BlueResolute Wrote:  

I don't like that Thomas Jefferson quote, mostly cause it's what's being used by the left right now. And there's no drawn line to who it prioritizes more, so it makes unjust and just subjectivity uglier to determine. Still, I'm behind the law of whatever place I reside in less that law threatens my existence as far as death, food, shelter, or water is concerned.

Yes, that quote is kind of glib, and not very comforting to the other passengers on the flight. But the fact that the UK chose to collectively punish a couple hundred unknowing passengers in order to "protect" England from the threat of wrongthink is outrageous and I hope more rebels do this in the future to highlight the stupidity.

Would I say the same thing to illegal border crossers? Sure; just be willing to accept the consequences, as Roosh was.

[fugly1000]

Question for anyone that knows. Aren't airports usually considered a save haven for travel from country to country? More like a international gateway. I believed, that if you don't leave the airport, you can travel freely. I know countries you can't leave the airports during a layover.

[Captain Gh]

(07-15-2018 05:47 PM)Avadhuta Wrote:  

Whilst the decision to ban Roosh from the UK is completely ridiculous, it is nevertheless legal. He was notified by the government and has acknowledged this publicly.

Roosh Wrote:

I know I’m banned from England, but it should be safe to have a layover where I don’t have to go through customs, right? Four-hundred dollars was enough motivation to find out.

Roosh then decides to defy this ruling, rationalizing it through a vague legal assumption that should have been verified through proper research and "test" the system in order to save 400$.

He knew there was a risk and he decided to take it. That was a bad call.

Sorry Roosh, this one is on you. You knowingly went against UK law and caused a plane to be turned around thereby messing with the plans of all the other passengers, the crew etc. simply because you wanted to save some money. Or was it the rush of being a rebel?

All in all you got off very lightly considering the costs of this little stunt.

Just my probably very unpopular 2 cents.

Absolutely agree with everything you mentionned... except that I feel it was a fantastic call by Roosh to take this chance! The establishment already decimated his Bottom Line (by getting kicked off Paypal)... so why not Troll them the Fuck Out?

While I cannot speak for Roosh... but If I was Him... and my lay over would have been successful... a light Trolling article would have fallowed about how much they can't even enforce something unfair to begin with! Roosh ain't big enough to be taken off the Web like Stormfront... so I feel the advantages of light Trolling far outweigh the possible consequences.

[Akwesi]

This is infuriating. And why is this thread about Monday morning quarterbacking Roosh? At issue here is the freedom of speech and expression in Western civilization, not whether his fellow passengers were inconvenienced by these ludicrous policies.

[Akwesi]

(07-15-2018 10:29 PM)fugly1000 Wrote:  

Question for anyone that knows. Aren't airports usually considered a save haven for travel from country to country? More like a international gateway. I believed, that if you don't leave the airport, you can travel freely. I know countries you can't leave the airports during a layover.

In a lot of countries you can do a layover without going through immigration, but not everywhere. In the US you need a visa for a layover if you would need a visa to visit. In some countries most nationals can just pass through, while others need a visa (e. g. in Turkey, some Africans need a visa just to go through the airport). So basically it just varies from country to country.

[placer]

(07-15-2018 10:29 PM)fugly1000 Wrote:  

Question for anyone that knows. Aren't airports usually considered a save haven for travel from country to country?

Not in the US. There was a famous story of a non-US citizen who got arrested in the mid-aughts when at a US airport waiting for a connecting flight.

[Penta Sahi]

(07-15-2018 10:29 PM)fugly1000 Wrote:  

Question for anyone that knows. Aren't airports usually considered a save haven for travel from country to country? More like a international gateway. I believed, that if you don't leave the airport, you can travel freely. I know countries you can't leave the airports during a layover.

I've always treated airports (and borders) as basically "no rights" zones where law enforcement rules with impunity. Regardless of your rights, a country's laws, international laws, etc. it's hard to believe you will get fair treatment from those people if they want to get you. And good luck with any sort of appeals. Just pack your shit, leave, and move on.

[[email protected]]

I personally would not have taken this risk. It's mind blowing they would turn the flight around but I shudder to think what they would have done to him had he reached the airport. It's not a stretch to say they would have interrogated and jailed him indefinitely.

What's notable is that I haven't heard any outrage over this level of tyranny over a thought crime. Meecham, Robinson, Southern were all covered in the net and MSM but Roosh doesn't even register a blip.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

The insane ban on Roosh aside, it's ridiculous that they'd divert an entire flight with over 100 passengers just to spite one person. I could understand if Roosh was a convicted terrorist or something, but the guy writes a fucking blog. What's he going to do at that London Airport layover, whip out his Wordpress interface and start threatening to click the "Publish" button?

[Kona]

(07-16-2018 01:48 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

I shudder to think what they would have done to him had he reached the airport. It's not a stretch to say they would have interrogated and jailed him indefinitely.

I don't know, I'd read Bang The Pillory. I'd buy a signed copy.



Aloha!

[torridon747]

Roosh I love ya man and if you consider what you did as an act of defiance against an unjust law then I respect you more. I do agree what happened was insane and lacking in any common sense.

But you can't be incredibly surprised when you attempt to enter a nation in which you have a ban on your person. A list that includes lots of horrible criminals and bad people - they have to take it seriously.

Banning a blogger from entering the UK is retarded. And good ol' Britannia seems pretty fucked at this point, thank god I wasn't born there. I'm glad you were treated well despite your transgression, it could've been a lot worse if you headed there from a harsher country with worse jails and treatment of prisoners. You could've been beaten, tortured or worse as your name appears next to international terrorists. Glad you're ok.

[Hypno]

(07-15-2018 09:04 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Bottom line is I never imagined they'd turn a plane around. Live and learn.

That is a very reasonable view.

Lets imagine we are on a plane and some communist nut is on the plane. (Perhaps not a reasonable assumption because the communists are all in government and academia, not on those lists). As a passenger, I'm putting my faith in the airline that the passengers on the plane are safe, that they filled the tank with gas, a million other things. They need to check that stuff before they get airborne.

As an aside, and perhaps an obvious one, the anti-terrorism laws are being corrupted for political oppression.

[Hypno]

(07-15-2018 11:51 PM)placer Wrote:  

(07-15-2018 10:29 PM)fugly1000 Wrote:  

Question for anyone that knows. Aren't airports usually considered a save haven for travel from country to country?

Not in the US. There was a famous story of a non-US citizen who got arrested in the mid-aughts when at a US airport waiting for a connecting flight.

That is not the same thing.

He wasn't arrested for entering the U.S. He was wanted by the U.S. for violating U.S law, and once he voluntarily entered U.S. jurisdiction he was arrested.

If you want to say that a UK airport is technically the UK, of course, that is obvious. But Roosh didn't break any laws so the need to keep him even from the airport doesn't exist.

[Hypno]

(07-16-2018 01:48 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  

I personally would not have taken this risk. It's mind blowing they would turn the flight around but I shudder to think what they would have done to him had he reached the airport. It's not a stretch to say they would have interrogated and jailed him indefinitely.

What's notable is that I haven't heard any outrage over this level of tyranny over a thought crime. Meecham, Robinson, Southern were all covered in the net and MSM but Roosh doesn't even register a blip.

Rooshv is probably lucky the plan returned to Reyjkivak and not Dulles.

[CynicalContrarian]

I'm glad to know the ladies of England are now safe...

[redpillage]

Meanwhile in Britainistan:

Quote:

Home Office plan to give jihadis council houses and support part of 'overdue' strategy to combat terrorism



Government plans to give jihadis council houses and other support as part of de-radicalisation programmes have been welcomed as “overdue” by terror experts.

Right-wing commentators have branded the proposals, codenamed Operation Constrain, as “beyond sick” and accused authorities of seeking to bribe extremists.

But analysts say there is an urgent need to coordinate police, intelligence, mental health and social work for thousands of potential threats who are known to authorities but cannot be jailed.

They include the 20,000 extremists who have appeared on the security services’ radars but are not deemed to be a sufficient risk for round-the-clock surveillance – the category that Westminster attacker Khalid Masood, Manchester bomber Salman Abedi and London Bridge ringleader Khuram Butt fell into.

The growing pool will be joined by former Isis members returning from the group’s shrinking territories in Syria and Iraq.

A report released last week said 425 men, women and children have already returned to the UK and the fate of more than 400 other jihadis who travelled to Isis strongholds remains unclear.

Max Hill, the Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, has been among those calling for a focus on “reintegration” amid warnings that there will not be sufficient evidence to prosecute all returnees or jail them for significant amounts of time.

I'm glad the British have their priorities in order. What was that quote by Solzhenitsyn again? I remember it going something like this: "You know you live in a fascist regime when criminals go free and political dissidents are being imprisoned." (someone please correct me if you know the proper quote)

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Quote:

terror experts

They sure are experts... in terrorizing their own population, that is.

[Barron]

How dare they divert a flight full of people over one fucking Muslim. I'm shaking right now because of how Islamophobic these fucking people are. Roosh is of Persian heritage and has been discriminated against by the British government and people for the last fucking time. Racism is Alive and Well in the UK.

[rotinz]

This is just more motivation for me to become successful and get a private jet, time share of a jet, join the netjets program or something like that. I have a phobia of airports were I feel like at any time I can be detained for no reason and in reality it's not even a phobia but a realistic fear because it constantly happens to people for no reason. The only way not to be treated like shit at the airport is not to go to one.