[MrLemon]

I ran across one of those "discussions" on LinkedIn, about "Gender Pay Gap" and was very happy to see that the men commenting were taking no prisoners whatsoever.

When you mess with a man's career, whether you are female or not, you are going to get punched in the nose. Men don't fuck around with that.

https://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/even-...p-1709090/

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Even female executives face pay gap
While female CEOs earn the same and sometimes more than their male counterparts, those in the C-suite, just one rung down, earn less, says a report in Bloomberg, citing data from ISS Analytics, a part of Institutional Shareholder Services. The reason is because top level jobs “tend to break down on gender lines,” with women heading departments like HR and men holding positions like chief operating officer — the latter roles paying significantly more.

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Once again the media is pushing the myth of "the pay gap". Indoctrination at work, "if I keep saying something is real, maybe people will believe it".
The "Pay Gap" myth was debunked DECADES ago when it was found out that women CHAMPION low paying jobs like childcare specialists and psychologists. Now, these jobs aren't "bad" but many of them take alot of time in college and have very little pay. When many of the higher paying jobs like those in technology. In fact EVEN inside their own fields, like medical care, women tend to choose jobs like Pediatric Care Provide (lower paying job) instead of Heart Surgeon (higher paying job).
On top of that women tend to work fewer hours AND take more time off... now these may good for good or bad reasons, but to demand to get paid for the time you don't really work is frivolous to say the least.
Al factors aside the REAL pay gap (this is to say, a female worker compared to a male worker, within the same exact job), is so narrow, it's not even worth mentioning.

[RatInTheWoods]

I am starting to see a backlash against feminist propaganda across blogs, forums and newspaper comments as well, its heartening!

[N°6]

If you peel away the slick corporate image, Asseriveness Training is just nagging until a point of view is accepted. It’s what is going on here.

My office is hitting peak feminism. HR boasted that the “20% gender pay gap” was due to men in senior roles and had recruited 50% women as graduates. The STEM university classes have 10% women so this recruitment result is pretty spectacular.

Once in they get put onto future leader programmes. The married directors of a certain waste line love it though.

It’s no wonder women under 30 in the UK earn more than men.

[kinjutsu]

(06-22-2018 02:19 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I ran across one of those "discussions" on LinkedIn, about "Gender Pay Gap" and was very happy to see that the men commenting were taking no prisoners whatsoever.

When you mess with a man's career, whether you are female or not, you are going to get punched in the nose. Men don't fuck around with that.

Quote:

Once again the media is pushing the myth of "the pay gap". Indoctrination at work, "if I keep saying something is real, maybe people will believe it".
The "Pay Gap" myth was debunked DECADES ago when it was found out that women CHAMPION low paying jobs like childcare specialists and psychologists. Now, these jobs aren't "bad" but many of them take alot of time in college and have very little pay. When many of the higher paying jobs like those in technology. In fact EVEN inside their own fields, like medical care, women tend to choose jobs like Pediatric Care Provide (lower paying job) instead of Heart Surgeon (higher paying job).
On top of that women tend to work fewer hours AND take more time off... now these may good for good or bad reasons, but to demand to get paid for the time you don't really work is frivolous to say the least.
Al factors aside the REAL pay gap (this is to say, a female worker compared to a male worker, within the same exact job), is so narrow, it's not even worth mentioning.

This is the key right there.
In my over 20 years of various jobs. One thing that was common among across all of them was female often missed worked way more compared to men.
I used to work in a law firm a while ago. Just document services and mail room.
The manager suffered from migraines constantly. It got so bad that she went 3 months without ever working a solid monday-friday week. Some weeks she would only work for 2 days.
For example, Come in Monday feel bad, then go home around lunch time. Not come in Tuesday or Wednesday. Show up on Thursday and stay for the full day but not come in Friday because her head was hurting. This wasn't the exception. This was common, we kept on getting questions if she had quit or if is shes still sick.
The worst part of everything was, she did the payroll and she made sure she always got paid for 10 days of work (2 weeks).

[CynicalContrarian]

(06-23-2018 12:13 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

This is the key right there.
In my over 20 years of various jobs. One thing that was common among across all of them was female often missed worked way more compared to men.
I used to work in a law firm a while ago. Just document services and mail room.
The manager suffered from migraines constantly. It got so bad that she went 3 months without ever working a solid monday-friday week. Some weeks she would only work for 2 days.
For example, Come in Monday feel bad, then go home around lunch time. Not come in Tuesday or Wednesday. Show up on Thursday and stay for the full day but not come in Friday because her head was hurting. This wasn't the exception. This was common, we kept on getting questions if she had quit or if is shes still sick.
The worst part of everything was, she did the payroll and she made sure she always got paid for 10 days of work (2 weeks).

Not to mention; in my two differing streams of work over ~20 years.
It's rare for a female (who doesn't even buck or abuse the system) to go above & beyond in her daily duties.
Most females I've encountered conduct the bare minimum required of their roles.

If you're the one paying the wages, why pay anymore than what the employee is demonstrating in terms of work ethic or diligence...?

[Fortis]

The pay gap never made any sense. If it were actually a functional model to just pay women less, then men wouldn't be employed anymore. All them saved profits.

I'm glad dudes are swiping this nonsense out of the air.

[N°6]

(06-23-2018 12:28 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

If you're the one paying the wages, why pay anymore than what the employee is demonstrating in terms of work ethic or diligence...?

As far as I know from a talk my office had from an upper middle class HR frump (who no doubt married very well to a man with whom there is a very suitable wage gap), the issue isn't unequal pay (i.e. a woman getting less for doing the same work as her male peers), the issue is the wages of men in senior positions when compared to women's average.


The problem is that the gap between CEO wages v entry level wages have increased many fold since the trickle down, globalist, mass-imports of cheap products for women to consume, usurious international economic model was adopted in the Reagan-Thatcher-Clinton-Blair era. Instead of tackling this driver of social inequality in the West and the resultant increasing gap between rich and poor and its associated sexual gap between alpha male and incel, the powers that be have thrown in the emotive smokescreen of gender rancour into the battlefield of labour politics.


The BBC did this when it was exposed for paying what are in effect state functionaires obscene salaries on the TV Licence payers' expense. Instead of that issue, what we got was the apparent gap between obscene male salaries and obscene female salaries at the BBC.

Remember it was CEOs who for years agitated for the end of the married man's premium on his salary in favour of cheaper entry level women (whom they knew whose salaries would still be supplemented by a future husband, now without the premium which funded the house wife's "allowance") . Governments wanted to increase the tax base to pay the interest on the national usury.


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[Crash_Bandicoot]

While I have been meeting lots of men that are effeminate and blue-pilled, I have recently noticed that the number of red-pilled, "fuck feminism" dudes is also increasing as well. In fact, a lot of my blue-pilled, liberal friend from NYC (a liberal hotspot in the US) have recently become insanely red pill. What caused the change? It seems as though as they interacted more with women, they began to realize how crazy feminism, "corporate wage wag" bullshit, etc.

In regards to LinkedIn, I too have noticed that there are a lot of red-pill comments from dudes. Perhaps this is because many of these guys are business-minded (more likely to be red-pilled and realistic about life than stupid liberal) and hence the higher proportion of red-pill comments?

[ChefAllDay]

(06-23-2018 02:02 AM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  

In fact, a lot of my blue-pilled, liberal friend from NYC (a liberal hotspot in the US) have recently become insanely red pill. What caused the change? It seems as though as they interacted more with women, they began to realize how crazy feminism, "corporate wage wag" bullshit, etc.

This is fantastic to see on LinkedIn

I think your average guy has some red pill in him but has had it suppressed for the last 25 years because of society, media, mothers etc. People get sick of shit being crammed down their throats and the red pill is starting to trigger their natural disdain for that shit.

Stuff they used to brush of as "crazy feminism" is affecting their day to day, and worse, their bottom line. Give it another 12-18 months or so. If Trump can hold USA for another 4 years, I think Canada and maybe even parts of Western Europe (long shot) will see a big Conservative shift in 2019/2020.

[Sumanguru]

If you're spending lots of time on linkedin, you're probably seriously looking for a job.

Unless you have a really high in demand skill (IT hotshot, doctor, lawyer, etc.) nothing is more humbling and redpilling then job hunting. The HR process in America is cancerous and treats most applicants like shit. The last thing some dude who's been putting in 100s of resumes only to get silence back wants to hear is about his "privilege" in the work place.

[Aurini]

(06-23-2018 02:02 AM)Crash_Bandicoot Wrote:  

While I have been meeting lots of men that are effeminate and blue-pilled, I have recently noticed that the number of red-pilled, "fuck feminism" dudes is also increasing as well. In fact, a lot of my blue-pilled, liberal friend from NYC (a liberal hotspot in the US) have recently become insanely red pill. What caused the change? It seems as though as they interacted more with women, they began to realize how crazy feminism, "corporate wage wag" bullshit, etc.

In regards to LinkedIn, I too have noticed that there are a lot of red-pill comments from dudes. Perhaps this is because many of these guys are business-minded (more likely to be red-pilled and realistic about life than stupid liberal) and hence the higher proportion of red-pill comments?

A word of caution: just because they've noticed how insane Feminism is, doesn't mean that they've embraced the principles of masculine virtue. Don't trust these males, until they prove themselves, they're still prone to betraying you for the sake of appeasing the matriarchal Cult of Nice.

[MrLemon]

(06-23-2018 08:01 AM)Sumanguru Wrote:  

If you're spending lots of time on linkedin, you're probably seriously looking for a job.

Unless you have a really high in demand skill (IT hotshot, doctor, lawyer, etc.) nothing is more humbling and redpilling then job hunting. The HR process in America is cancerous and treats most applicants like shit. The last thing some dude who's been putting in 100s of resumes only to get silence back wants to hear is about his "privilege" in the work place.

Ding! Very nicely put.

For every job, there are dozens of very qualified people trying to win. As somebody on LinkedIn said..."the homeless shelters are full of men who fail". It's scary and a matter, literally, of feeding your children.

So when some asshole entitled women comes in and starts throwing around her victim status, she is going to get her front teeth knocked down her throat. Then she'll get scared and scurry away the way women do anytime they face the real ferocity of male aggression.

Men at work are like a pack of sled dogs, fighting and snarling. If you get injured or show weakness, the other dogs leap in and tear you apart for dinner, while society politely looks aside. Women complain about this...tey want it to be like grade school where everybody takes their turn (a model which inevitably favors girls).

Men just laugh when they hear that idiocy.

Ellen Pao, who keeps pushing the victim thing, is now the most-hated woman in the world.

Jessica Lessin, (Rich bitch with fancy college degrees paid by Daddy who insults men), Arianna Huffington, rich-by-marrying-gay-rich-guy, and Melinda Gates, rich-by-sleeping-with-boss, are all the runners-up to being the most hated.

[DonnyGately]

I thought it was Brazzers where everybody takes a turn.

[Foolsgo1d]

(06-23-2018 06:49 AM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  

Stuff they used to brush of as "crazy feminism" is affecting their day to day, and worse, their bottom line. Give it another 12-18 months or so. If Trump can hold USA for another 4 years, I think Canada and maybe even parts of Western Europe (long shot) will see a big Conservative shift in 2019/2020.

The US will survive, I highly doubt the UK and EU will.

[Teedub]

London won't survive, that's for definite. None of the so-called 'Alpha+ global cities', as economists call them, will. They'll be places where indigenous people of those cities are supplanted for third world serfs and millionaires. I hate those fucking places, and I'll never live in one again. They'll be bizarre meshes like cities in Blade Runner.

Ah well, maybe it's all just inevitable, but I just don't particularly like city living generally.

[renotime]

[Transsimian]

I criticise him a lot, but Jordan Peterson has really helped shift the overton window on the pay gap myth.

Though, they are all being silly, I would never argue something this controversial on a job forum using my real name.

[david.garrett84]

(06-24-2018 08:20 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

I criticise him a lot, but Jordan Peterson has really helped shift the overton window on the pay gap myth.

Be careful with your criticism of Peterson. This is exactly what people did with George Lucas, harassing him for years about the prequels and even Special Editions of the originals, and then we got Mary Sue Rey in The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi.

[American_Pharaoh]

Nah Lucas sold it at that point it’s out of his hands. Disney, more precisely Kathleen Kennedy is the one to blame for the sjw feminist rot that has taken place.