[MikeS]

(06-21-2018 05:30 AM)Vlado Wrote:  

Unfortunately Bulgaria is getting ruined also by sex tourists.

It is not yet Prague, but we are going there....

Which kind? Daygamers (I rarely notice any when I'm downtown, which is admittedly not every week anymore since I'm in an LTR and live near Manastirski Livadi, and I also don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to random guys on the street, even if they do happen to be chatting up pretty girls)? Or the old fashioned whore mongers?
From what I've observed of the prostitution market here it's cheap but highly customer unfriendly, based almost entirely on calling numbers in often fake online ads, while in eg. Prague, Athens, Germany, Austria etc. there are countless organized brothels with the goods in plain sight after walking in from the street.

[Cation]

Please stop this "apocalypse now!" thing.

[dr.feelgood]

Raw God:

"Perhaps your meditation and hunting regimen in the remote mountains will help you gain the trait of patience"

Zero dates bangs is what I know best, Rawgod. Im willing to adapt of course! That's why I started this thread to find the least ruined EE country where my method is still applicable. I can't believe things have changed so much in 5 years!

[Tintin]

My 12inch mandingo has ruined much of Eastern Europe

[Wander]

I think even if you transported to the EE twenty years ago, most PUA guys still couldn't get laid

[dr.feelgood]

Most ruined EE countries in 2018.

1. Poland.
2. Ukraine.
3. Russia (Moscow)

Maybe the countryside is better, but Moscow was worse than London and Paris five years ago.
My evaluation is for guys who don't speak the local language to roam the countryside, where there might be opportunities and is based on the information I found on this forum. I will soon go there to check myself.

[Bikal]

(06-23-2018 05:23 AM)dr.feelgood Wrote:  

Moscow was worse than London and Paris five years ago.

Moscow is no worse than London today, it's a case of understanding how to approach and doing so in the local language is a bonus.

London is insanely easy to get laid in, day game is rare from what I've experienced day to day while night game becomes a massive hunt but usually ends up with guys visiting 'models' in Soho and if you go to any decent club with controls, you'll be outnumbered by women to men which is even better.

I can't comment on Ukraine as a whole due to my dislike of the country based on my experience in Kyiv (overpriced hellhole) but I don't think that Ukraine is overplayed, Russia definitely isn't but Poland, Poland is a cesspit.

[Henny]

(06-23-2018 05:23 AM)dr.feelgood Wrote:  

Most ruined EE countries in 2018.

1. Poland.
2. Ukraine.
3. Russia (Moscow)

Maybe the countryside is better, but Moscow was worse than London and Paris five years ago.
My evaluation is for guys who don't speak the local language to roam the countryside, where there might be opportunities and is based on the information I found on this forum. I will soon go there to check myself.

Yes rural places can be better, although the women are more guarded in these places when it comes to flirting with foreigners.

Families are often poor in rural places, so it's more likely that the parents will approve of you snatching their young daughter, they will present her on a silver platter with her legs open

[dr.feelgood]

Agreed, Bikal. London is very easy to get laid, I would say even with closed eyes. Just stay away from the pick up hotspots bars where all the thirsty wolves hung out and fire up Tinder.
Moscow is tricky and without Russian language skills and short term visits you won't achieve much, that's why it has been rated so low.
Poland is just done forever. I will spend a few days in Warsaw anyway, but really can't deal with their sick mind games.

[Cobra]

We're definitely in the Apocalypse NOW phase related to game on the forum.

[Alpha_Romeo]

Go on the Turkish equivalent of RVF, and note the 'pussy paradises' they are raving about. Then avoid those.

[Belarus1212]

Which places are the Turks talking about? What is their rooshv?

[Tenerife]

(06-24-2018 03:31 AM)Alpha_Romeo Wrote:  

Go on the Turkish equivalent of RVF, and note the 'pussy paradises' they are raving about. Then avoid those.

Do you actually know of a Turkish travel game board? If so, I would be very curious to see what they talk about.

[Alpha_Romeo]

^I don't know. My response was hypothetical (but probably dead-on). I would imagine that the Turkish equivalent of RVF would be in Turkish. If one doesn't exist, some enterprising dude should set it up. But rather than be a direct copy of RVF, it would have to be an inverse copy (e.g., Thirst subforum instead of Game subforum, instead of IRT they would have Kurdish Race Troll).

[diego69]

Ive been to EE occasionally for the last 7-8 years and for sure I feel the degradation of quality pussy I can bang/date (Obviously I'm also aging), this is called globalization, many foreigners move in/tour, girls have 4G internet and Instagram. I will still favor EE from any western city.
If I try to drill down:
Waste of time: Bulgaria, Romania, all Balkans (former Yugoslavia)
Better but still avoidable: Baltics countries.
Medium: Czech (but not Prague), Hungary, Slovakia.
Slightly better: Poland (prefer cities without major airport like Lodz), Moldova.
Best: Russia and Ukraine. Moscow to be honest is not bad at all, there is sheer amount of single women.

In general bigger population country x remoteness = better success.
For example, small city like Talinn is much affected from tourism than Warsaw/Kiev, not to mention its short ferry from Helsinki.

My rating related to what quality I get, so for example maybe Polish girls still faster to bed on average than Ukrainians but average look is less.

[dr.feelgood]

Diego, do you actually recommend only Lodz? No major airports? Seriously? Do you speak Polish?

According to this forum Polish girls are the hardest, but for you the countryside ones are easy? A bit confused. Things seem to be so different than 5 years ago.

[Giacomo Casanova]

Lodz has actually the airport and many foreigners hanging around, with a sizable amount of students from Middle East. Perhaps there are worst towns in Poland like Krakow or Wroclaw, but it's definitely far from being an easy city.
As of today, I would avoid Poland at all costs, it is the most difficult country in EE, and probably of the whole Europe (maybe with the only exception of Italy).

[diego69]

(06-25-2018 04:38 PM)Giacomo Casanova Wrote:  

Lodz has actually the airport and many foreigners hanging around, with a sizable amount of students from Middle East. Perhaps there are worst towns in Poland like Krakow or Wroclaw, but it's definitely far from being an easy city.
As of today, I would avoid Poland at all costs, it is the most difficult country in EE, and probably of the whole Europe (maybe with the only exception of Italy).

I did there fairly well, many student parties in midweek when girls drink heavily and can go for the bang in the same night.
Check the rate between amount of international flights/population and you will see it the lowest in Poland. Foreign students is only one effect, still there are much less tourists or business people coming than most Polish cities.

[Arado]

(06-25-2018 09:01 AM)diego69 Wrote:  

Ive been to EE occasionally for the last 7-8 years and for sure I feel the degradation of quality pussy I can bang/date (Obviously I'm also aging), this is called globalization, many foreigners move in/tour, girls have 4G internet and Instagram. I will still favor EE from any western city.
If I try to drill down:
Waste of time: Bulgaria, Romania, all Balkans (former Yugoslavia)
Better but still avoidable: Baltics countries.
Medium: Czech (but not Prague), Hungary, Slovakia.
Slightly better: Poland (prefer cities without major airport like Lodz), Moldova.
Best: Russia and Ukraine. Moscow to be honest is not bad at all, there is sheer amount of single women.

In general bigger population country x remoteness = better success.
For example, small city like Talinn is much affected from tourism than Warsaw/Kiev, not to mention its short ferry from Helsinki.

My rating related to what quality I get, so for example maybe Polish girls still faster to bed on average than Ukrainians but average look is less.

There isn't much forum info on Romania, and from what I've seen, it's not ruined, just that it takes a bit more time. Datasheets say girls are still friendly.

[Papa Hemingway]

A question to the original poster:

State your definition of what would make a country ruined in more detail.

[Constitution45]

Personally I am fine with this. I am from London and had to learn to compete with that environment. So for me even South France would be up there as a "pussy paradise".

I met a fair number of Western men living in Moscow, who had beautiful girlfriends that they were trying to train up to be more liberal, and embracing of Western feminism. It was quite cringey, that they had a complete lack of awareness of how ridiculous it seemed. So a lot of them are bringing this 'ruining' up themselves.

To do well in Moscow, you need to be a certain type. Clowning around and caring about your hair too much is not going to go down well.

[exitus]

As far as Poland goes Krakow is pretty burned down. It's on the RSD goon route unfortunately. Wroclaw, poznan etc are still strong.

[JohnQPublic]

(06-25-2018 08:17 PM)Arado Wrote:  

(06-25-2018 09:01 AM)diego69 Wrote:  

Ive been to EE occasionally for the last 7-8 years and for sure I feel the degradation of quality pussy I can bang/date (Obviously I'm also aging), this is called globalization, many foreigners move in/tour, girls have 4G internet and Instagram. I will still favor EE from any western city.
If I try to drill down:
Waste of time: Bulgaria, Romania, all Balkans (former Yugoslavia)
Better but still avoidable: Baltics countries.
Medium: Czech (but not Prague), Hungary, Slovakia.
Slightly better: Poland (prefer cities without major airport like Lodz), Moldova.
Best: Russia and Ukraine. Moscow to be honest is not bad at all, there is sheer amount of single women.

In general bigger population country x remoteness = better success.
For example, small city like Talinn is much affected from tourism than Warsaw/Kiev, not to mention its short ferry from Helsinki.

My rating related to what quality I get, so for example maybe Polish girls still faster to bed on average than Ukrainians but average look is less.

There isn't much forum info on Romania, and from what I've seen, it's not ruined, just that it takes a bit more time. Datasheets say girls are still friendly.

Agree with this on Romania. The whole country outside of Bucharest Old Town. Except for it's completely different for what most people are looking for in an Eastern European country. So a lot of guys probably punt on it pretty quickly.

[Cation]

John, you could say the same for any Balkan country. Only the capital cities have datasheets, with a few (outdated) exceptions here and there.

[Matt Fecal]

(06-26-2018 03:16 PM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

I met a fair number of Western men living in Moscow, who had beautiful girlfriends that they were trying to train up to be more liberal, and embracing of Western feminism. It was quite cringey, that they had a complete lack of awareness of how ridiculous it seemed. So a lot of them are bringing this 'ruining' up themselves.

I see it all the time. Guys looking for a non-Western women, and after they've got one, they are westernizing her to death.