[Hazaer]

(06-15-2018 08:50 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 08:27 AM)teddy bear Wrote:  

Besides, someone in the other thread has said, that America has more of an hustling nature to it. That may be true, but I believe it's like this everywhere in developed countries. It only depends on what you people you work with, what industry you are at and what are your general goals in life. It's the same in Europe - want to forever be on a median wage and afford one single 4 stars hotel in Bulgaria for a week in summer with your fat wife, on-going credit for the next 20 years and lazy slobs as your co-workers? You just have to go with the flow, pick up any job, and you will sooner or later get to this point of median wage and boring life. That's the majority everywhere, regardless if it's America or Europe. You want something more, you want to hustle, and you want to get something out of your life? You will mostly end up in the cities full of people with similar interests.

Anyway, I didn't get into becoming an US resident too much, but I have briefly read about it and it surely isn't easy. Europe in general has more lenient laws to obtain residency. It also depends on which country you are and most importantly - your skills. From my brief estimations based on some posts of people, that managed to do that, you need to be simply good at what you do - as you are still a student I believe, it will definitely be much harder, but then again, younger people usually have edge in terms of immigration.
I thought of living in the USA in future as well, once I establish myself in the chosen field, have a several years of solid experience etc., but I have quickly changed my mind and focused on Japan - although, many things will probably change till then, so no point in really making those plans now.

Still, wish you good luck with your plans, but before you make any decided moves I believe you should stay there a little bit longer and gain more perspective.

Teddy bear - I can fully understand your outlook as I am in exactly the same situation, I prefer the Uk to my home country (Poland). But I really don't like the UK - my main problem with it is the people, culture and the attitude (I have been here for 14 years). The USA is a perfect combo of what I like, I would hustle my ass off here and enjoy it because Americans know how to balance life better. Whilst you say that becoming a US citizen is difficult - this again is America and anything is possible. I already have two plans which could take me here but I want to hear how others did it. I also wish you best of luck with making it to Japan

Mikestar, based on your short stay in the USA, what have been the differences in culture between the USA and the UK? Which parts of the UK have you lived in so far?

Good replies above. You really have to live in a place for a minimum of about a year to see if you can see yourself living there long term. A Masters degree in the US would be good to experience the uni lifestyle (not the full experience which is more for undergrad) there and also the general american culture outside of uni if you can afford it. But if you can afford that, you might as well stay a few months in the different parts of the US to get a feel of things. US citizenship is getting more difficult to get so dont count on it yet.

You really got to decide on the kind of city you want to live in. Living in NYC is very different from Houston which is very different from Seattle. A lot of people like the USA because of the large amount of personal space they can afford. Bigger houses, longer travels to scenic places etc. Relationships for the most part can be superficial the US but you can meet lots of people who are keen on making friends.

Often people travel to different places because of dissatisfaction of their current state of life but after living in a new region for a bit, they find that though they have gotten new experiences and done tons of sightseeing, the way of life doesnt really suit them, who they are and their beliefs, and they return back. Its good to keep in contact with your home region/country.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-16-2018 09:18 PM)traveler97 Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 07:38 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

This is my first time in the states, I have been in the USA for over a week now, more specifically NYC, Boston and small towns in New England. I came to see family/friends and to see if life really is as good as they say it is. I had mixed expectations but had high hopes from the beginning.

In short it didn't dissapoint, I have been loving how everything is in the states, life is sweet on the other side of the pond. I want to become a US citizen.

Has anyone started a new life in America from Europe/any other part of the world and how did you make it happen?

Also, why shouldn't I want to move here - apart from the obvious problems like obesity, shallow people etc?

I honestly don't understand why America gets hated on this forum, maybe the grass is greener effect is strong but USA has everything for me, sociable culture, varied environments, good women, good food, good economy - the list can go on and on.

Do not make too hasty decisions, the US are great, especially for work (really high salaries compared to Europe), and good quality of life, but without a job, they can be far worse than Europe.
Don't forget that.

People who value their own hard work, ingenuity, and initiative do not worry about not having a job -- or suckling at the nipple of the welfare state. Worrying, or even thinking, about such a thing exhibits a loser's mentality. If you work to create value, you will never lack employment. Then the only thing you need to worry about is how soon you can create your own business.

[rudebwoy]

(06-15-2018 07:38 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

This is my first time in the states, I have been in the USA for over a week now, more specifically NYC, Boston and small towns in New England. I came to see family/friends and to see if life really is as good as they say it is. I had mixed expectations but had high hopes from the beginning.

Also, why shouldn't I want to move here - apart from the obvious problems like obesity, shallow people etc?

I honestly don't understand why America gets hated on this forum, maybe the grass is greener effect is strong but USA has everything for me, sociable culture, varied environments, good women, good food, good economy - the list can go on and on.

I have been to a ton of countries and loved them all.

Spending one week in a country doesn't give you an indication of how the place is really is.

Many Brits move to America because they can get so much more for their money and a greater standard of living. They always complain about the social aspect, which is not like Europe.

America/Canada are immigrant countries and have a strong work ethic. When you start a job you get 10 days vacation, compared to 24 days in the UK and Europe.

My issue with America is the healthcare, if you don't have money then you are screwed.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-16-2018 11:27 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-15-2018 07:38 AM)Mikestar Wrote:  

This is my first time in the states, I have been in the USA for over a week now, more specifically NYC, Boston and small towns in New England. I came to see family/friends and to see if life really is as good as they say it is. I had mixed expectations but had high hopes from the beginning.

Also, why shouldn't I want to move here - apart from the obvious problems like obesity, shallow people etc?

I honestly don't understand why America gets hated on this forum, maybe the grass is greener effect is strong but USA has everything for me, sociable culture, varied environments, good women, good food, good economy - the list can go on and on.

My issue with America is the healthcare, if you don't have money then you are screwed.

All you need is a full-time job to have healthcare. If you do not have a job, you still get healthcare. A part time job is where the problem occurs.

Linking healthcare to your employer is what caused the healthcare inflation crisis in the U.S., because when your employer is forced to pay your medical bills the patient has no incentive to minimize costs or to question questionable or fraudulent billing practices.

[churros]

Let me be real for a second. If anyone still goes to the US with stars in their eyes about making it, they're fools. The girls are there, but it's shit value for money, and the culture sucks balls.

The ONLY circumstance you go to USA is to earn money. And in that case, the company is flying you in specifically, you're already trained, so visas aren't an issue. OP have a nice holiday, but be realistic.

[Rang off the Pipe]

I've met a lot of Europeans the past few years in New York, and when I ask them why they're in the city, I see two common themes:

1. Tourism
2. Additional economic opportunity


Tourists are tourists and any well-known destination will attract them, but the expatriates are in the city because of international work assignments, business opportunities, and economic benefits that would not be easy to obtain in their own countries (or at least in a timely manner). This goes back to what churros said in the previous post. Yes, these foreign nationals want the glamorous experience of being in New York, but I always find it really telling that many of these people tend to stay among other expatriates from the same culture and continue to have almost all daily interactions in their native tongues. The French community in New York is a good example of this.

[rudebwoy]

(06-17-2018 05:19 AM)churros Wrote:  

Let me be real for a second. If anyone still goes to the US with stars in their eyes about making it, they're fools. The girls are there, but it's shit value for money, and the culture sucks balls.

The ONLY circumstance you go to USA is to earn money. And in that case, the company is flying you in specifically, you're already trained, so visas aren't an issue. OP have a nice holiday, but be realistic.

+1

[Dragan]

(06-17-2018 05:19 AM)churros Wrote:  

Let me be real for a second. If anyone still goes to the US with stars in their eyes about making it, they're fools. The girls are there, but it's shit value for money, and the culture sucks balls.

The ONLY circumstance you go to USA is to earn money. And in that case, the company is flying you in specifically, you're already trained, so visas aren't an issue. OP have a nice holiday, but be realistic.

Value, there's plenty of value, just get out of New York, San Francisco, Honolulu, those are the expensive places.

Culture? Plenty of culture, whether you're in a tier one city or a smaller city in the midwest.

You can get a job in the US as a foreigner, you just have to have a bankable skill. I deplore certain parts of the US, that's why I expatriated.. But to be honest, there is a lot going on in a country of 320 million people. I see the American cultural impact anywhere I go in the World.

[Sherman]

I did the opposite and moved from America to the Netherlands for several years. One thing that was hard to beat was the vacation time. Because of seniority, I had over a month of vacation. In America you are lucky to get 10 days. I found work less stressful. One difference is that in America there seems to be an unlimited amount of things you can buy and you receive them instantly. Even ordering a bed in Europe could take several weeks to get, so I would find myself buying most things I need at IKEA. People in Europe are more knowledgeable and educated about the world outside their country. In America people actually think you are weird for even visiting another country.

[nola]

American women have a propensity for foreigners. It's cultural leverage for them. They'll use your identity to bolster their claims of xenophobia. Also it's a way for them to make themselves feel cultured exotic or both. Can't count how many women wanted to to try that new (ethnic restaurant) like I gave a fuck about their lack of knowledge of the fact the food they were trying to get me to pay for were from starving countries I used to work in. 2d bullshit if you ask me.

Anyway if you have a aristocratic sounding accent or are African. Woman will swarm on you to further elevate that not only are they victims for being born as women but have become inter-sectional victims based on their forbidden relationship with you in racist and prejudice America.

For the super shallow women it's pure novelty but don't expect them to marry you, you'll be the oh so other talking point of that time they dated a guy from where ever the fuck and what they learned about their time with you and your culture.

Don't debase yourself this way. I did when I was younger. Once lost a girlfriend while I was actually working to better my station in life and financially secure to some degenerate alcoholic Irish expat in Boston who lived in a commune became he had a cool accent and was from another land.

Not bitter as it's good game on his end. If a guy gets my girl that way I'd high five him in a bar and buy him a drink. She can live off his ditch digging money after she hits the wall and if he's smart moved on to the next American girl willing to fall for it.

There is a place called The Fields in Central Square in Cambridge MA. It's full of girls looking for guys from Ireland and England that play on the bar owners rugby team the Foxhounds. I always tell my UK buddies to go there when they are visiting.

[Mikestar]

Ah come on I wish i'd known this, I was in Cambridge MA the other day. Yeah they love the British accent here, too many girls started talking to me in shops cos of it. Anyway back to the point, I just personally enjoy how it is in the USA. I agree with Dragan, there are places with culture. For reference I haven't even finished college yet so I don't have any attachement to a place, this is why im considering the USA to start a new life and continue my foundations. I dont own any assets so the option for marriage is out there but option no.1 would be a phd.

[zatara]

(06-16-2018 03:50 PM)LeBaron Wrote:  

I used to work in a bank here in France and I probably saw over a thousand detailed bank statements from different customers

-Shops in France cannot accept payment over 1500€ in Cash
-if you withdraw or deposit a large amount of money in cash and your banker have a slight doubt about the source of the founds they will denounce you to the governement and your case will be invastegated
-If you withdraw over 2000€ from your account you must fill a form and explain what you are going to do with the money
-while it is true that we nearly don't use credit cards I would say that 90 to 95% of the time people here pay with a debit card ( we don't have a credit card culture people here [/b]will do small loans instead)

oh and everytime you go to a bar/nightclub/restaurant please don't use your card pay with cash it will be used against you by your bankers in the future if you get yourself in a difficult position.

I paid close to €2000 for a TV in Normandie in a shop in cash a few years ago with no problems. I'll accept it may have changed since then however - do you have any links to these laws in that case?

In regards to debit cards being used 90% of the time you're wrong though - cash is still far more popular in most of Europe than the US, including in France. This chart only shows a few European countries and the US but its a good starting point for comparison:



Card transactions, both debit and credit combined, are a higher percentage of transactions in the US than in the majority of countries in Europe.

[Putin Closes]

Americans LOVE the British accent, hell I get a boner sometimes when a decent 6 starts talking in a "posh" accent. Probably best place in the world to be if your a Brit, and since British women are pretty much at the bottom of the European totem pole, American girls are on equal footing and in big cities like NYC a notch higher.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

A family member moved recently to the US after marry a good Midwestern American woman. She is fine and was even living with him in EE for a while.

After a mere 6 months in Minneapolis his experiences were highly different from what he was expecting. I knew this of course beforehand, but he would not believe me. He dreamed of living the American Dream while having no high-end education or previous good job experience, he thought that just working hard was enough to make a good living and living high on the hog. What also struck him is how "diverse" the US had become. He definitely felt like a White stranger in many parts of town - in addition you have the entire cost basis of health care and education.

End of the story is that he intends to move back to EE with his kid and American wife.

I had lived in the US for shorter stints and experienced better times before, but there is a ton of factors to look at when compared to European countries. Many guys don't even know that you have 500-600% the chance of upward social mobility in Scandinavian countries vs the US. Sure - if you have massive financial resources, a fantastic job or are somehow self-employed then you make x times more than in Europe. The single digit millionaire from Sweden would be worth 100 mio. $ + in the US and the doctor will make 3-4 times more in the US.

In addition you have lots of Orwellian tools, social justice, college madness, unfitting mass migration with Whites becoming minorities 3-4 decades before the Swedes - all of that is going on.

It's really funny, because in a way the US and Sweden share a similar history. I read once a bunch of happiness and high-trust social studies. The US had been the happiest most high-trust country in the world in the 1950s. Then something broke and shattered. Sweden was in the 1980s and early 1990s the happiest most high-trust country in the world with the capitol city of Stockholm having a murder every 2-5 years. And then something broke - it wasn't just economics, it was a multitude of factors including unfitting mass migration.

The US is becoming simply a globalist country without any positive culture - only a negative cultural marxist one dominating and fucking the main tribe that built the nation in the ass.

[Putin Closes]

Yes Scandanavia is a better place to live if you are truly "middle class" and non of that bs liberal definition to include the $100,000+ households as part of the middle class.

If you are in the $100k+ household / income, life is pretty much as good as it gets and those with the proper credentials have a reasonable shot assuming they are intelligent and work hard.

For the average blue collar worker, the american dream is just that, open to a select few that pass through the filter mechanisms set up.

[Dragan]

(06-18-2018 10:16 AM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

Yes Scandanavia is a better place to live if you are truly "middle class" and non of that bs liberal definition to include the $100,000+ households as part of the middle class.

If you are in the $100k+ household / income, life is pretty much as good as it gets and those with the proper credentials have a reasonable shot assuming they are intelligent and work hard.

For the average blue collar worker, the american dream is just that, open to a select few that pass through the filter mechanisms set up.

How can it be better taking into account the ridiculous tax burden truly middle class people pay there, lack of housing, migrant ghettos that are never far away, etc?

[rudebwoy]

America doesn't have poor areas? lol

How can you move to a country with no work experience and no education, thinking your going to get a good job. This isn't 1950, this is 2018.

With a good education and the right skills, you can move up a lot quicker in America.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-18-2018 09:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

America doesn't have poor areas? lol

How can you move to a country with no work experience and no education, thinking your going to get a good job. This isn't 1950, this is 2018.

With a good education and the right skills, you can move up a lot quicker in America.

In the 1960s a steelworker with no education and not much skill was able to make more than a middle management Starbucks manager, was able to pay off a house in 7 years, support a wife, 2 kids and 2 cars on the income he made in his steel mill.

That American dream was being eliminated in the 1970s.

[jordypip23]

(06-19-2018 06:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 09:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

America doesn't have poor areas? lol

How can you move to a country with no work experience and no education, thinking your going to get a good job. This isn't 1950, this is 2018.

With a good education and the right skills, you can move up a lot quicker in America.

In the 1960s a steelworker with no education and not much skill was able to make more than a middle management Starbucks manager, was able to pay off a house in 7 years, support a wife, 2 kids and 2 cars on the income he made in his steel mill.

That American dream was being eliminated in the 1970s.

This is true. Cities like Detroit (auto) & Pittsburgh (steel) were once the roaring places to be for those tradesmen & blue collar workers out there. Same with numerous other rust belt cities.

[Dalaran1991]

Born in SEA, lived 4 years in the US for study and been in France for 4 years. I can tell you that there's absolutely no "better" country than other. There's only a country that's better suited to your personality.

In Vietnam if you are a hustler can sell a house for 300k and only pay 500$ in taxes (true story). You can also die much much easier to car accident and much more likely to get lung cancer. Girls are cute feminine will cook and clean but you damn well better pay up.

In USA I miss the country people who will blast shotgun at strangers but if they like you they will invite you over for a yard barbecue. I love the ability to buy anything conceivable (guns are not permitted to non-Americans so tough luck). Income is higher but hell the fuck no to the 40+ work week and 10 days/year vacation. Of course if you are smart you can start your business and there's a big entrepreneurship culture there. Coca is cheaper than water and they put sugar syrup everywhere, but I miss good BBQ ribs a l'American. Most of the benefits are for USA citizens only (as it should be) so as a foreigner you can cross off half of the list.

In France people are bitchy, whiny and have a mediocrity mindset. The food is about the best in Europe if not the world in terms of quality and variety. You are taxed to death as a middle class which is why no one wants to get rich here, but if you are smart it's very easy to scam the system for a fuck ton of benefits with your free healthcare. Paris is the new Sodom but the smaller cities are fucking charming. The material and cultural heritage is so rich it's very easy to build your identity around an aspect of national pride, but at the same time you get to see France being destroyed everyday by forces within and without. You get most of the same benefits as a French citizen but so does Mohammed and his tribesmen living next door littering the street and pooping out 13th kid.

None of those situations looks good on paper, but there's one where you can say "I like it more/hate it less than the others". And most of this you can only know after living there for a few years.

TLDRR: you are in the honeymoon period. Have fun but don't make rash decision.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-19-2018 06:45 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

In USA I miss the country people who will blast shotgun at strangers but if they like you they will invite you over for a yard barbecue. I love the ability to buy anything conceivable (guns are not permitted to non-Americans so tough luck).

Well-thought out post. I agree with most of your analysis. One error: legal permanent resident foreigners have the same rights to acquire, keep, and use firearms as do U.S. citizens. In fact, they have almost the same rights as U.S. citizens, except for voting. In terms of rights, the U.S. is quite egalitarian (in fact, far more egalitarian than most countries that claim to be egalitarian); in terms of economics, you had better pull your weight.

Quote:

The undisputed facts establish that Fotoudis, as a lawful permanent resident alien of the United States (and resident of Hawaii), was denied the opportunity to apply for a permit to acquire firearms solely because of his alienage. This classification violates the equal protection clause of the U.S. Constitution. HRS § 134-2(d) is thus unconstitutional as-applied to Fotoudis (and other lawful permanent resident aliens), and Defendants are therefore permanently enjoined from denying Fotoudis the opportunity (1) to apply for a permit to acquire firearms, and (2) to obtain such a permit, if he otherwise meets the qualifications of state law, as specifically set forth in the Conclusion of this Order.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/11...nt-rights/

The main problem that I have with the U.S. is that creeping welfare-state socialism has made it a mere shadow of the great country that it was only a generation ago. The idea of "America" as enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution has all but disappeared. As I stated above, however, it is still the least rotten apple in a bucket full of bad apples. Creative and inventive men can now find greater freedom elsewhere by living in the world as a perpetual tourist.

[Dalaran1991]

(06-19-2018 08:38 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

The main problem that I have with the U.S. is that creeping welfare-state socialism has made it a mere shadow of the great country that it was only a generation ago. The idea of "America" as enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution has all but disappeared. As I stated above, however, it is still the least rotten apple in a bucket full of bad apples. Creative and inventive men can now find greater freedom elsewhere by living in the world as a perpetual tourist.

You can say the exact same thing for France, except that it started circa 1890' instead of "only a generation ago". In fact I would say one only needs to look at Europe to see a hint of USA in the very very near future. In NYC and Cucklifornia it's not very far off.

It's easy to adopt the nomad lifestyle but the truth is that the human nature have a need to belong to a tribe. That's why we are here on this forum. That's how a bunch of disaffected adventurers set out and created America and they got pissed off with the old world. Hell, maybe in a generation people like you and me will set off for another planet and create a separatist faction Star War style. This is the recurrent theme in every sci-fi setting and logically it's inevitable.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-19-2018 09:02 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(06-19-2018 08:38 AM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

The main problem that I have with the U.S. is that creeping welfare-state socialism has made it a mere shadow of the great country that it was only a generation ago. The idea of "America" as enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution has all but disappeared. As I stated above, however, it is still the least rotten apple in a bucket full of bad apples. Creative and inventive men can now find greater freedom elsewhere by living in the world as a perpetual tourist.

You can say the exact same thing for France, except that it started circa 1890' instead of "only a generation ago". In fact I would say one only needs to look at Europe to see a hint of USA in the very very near future. In NYC and Cucklifornia it's not very far off.

That is what I meant when I stated that the U.S. is still the least rotten apple in a bucket full of bad apples.

1) If you immigrate from a third-world hell-hole, then the U.S. is the best country in the world to which to immigrate, if you wish to work hard and have your children benefit from upward social and economic mobility. If you want to game the welfare system, then Western Europe is a much better place because they have set up a self-destructive welfare system.

2) If you are wealthy, you would be an idiot to move to the U.S. because the U.S. taxes all citizens and permanent residents on their worldwide income. As a wealthy European, you can simply establish residency in a no-tax country, travel the world, and avoid taxation altogether.

3) If you are a hardworking European without wealth, you can do much better working in the still mostly capitalist system in the U.S., but you will pay taxes on your worldwide income forever. A better option is to establish a remote business and then establish residency in a no-tax country and avoid taxation altogether.

4) If you live in the U.S. and have made your money, then the best option is to live as a full-time PT to maximize your liberty and freedom; also diversify your assets worldwide. You are still liable to U.S. taxation forever, but you are mostly protected from government or lawsuit confiscation.

[rudebwoy]

(06-19-2018 06:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 09:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

America doesn't have poor areas? lol

How can you move to a country with no work experience and no education, thinking your going to get a good job. This isn't 1950, this is 2018.

With a good education and the right skills, you can move up a lot quicker in America.

In the 1960s a steelworker with no education and not much skill was able to make more than a middle management Starbucks manager, was able to pay off a house in 7 years, support a wife, 2 kids and 2 cars on the income he made in his steel mill.

That American dream was being eliminated in the 1970s.

The American dream ended long before that, when the country was sold out.

Your talking about an era half a century ago, not very realistic is it.

[Tail Gunner]

(06-19-2018 08:32 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(06-19-2018 06:04 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

(06-18-2018 09:33 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

America doesn't have poor areas? lol

How can you move to a country with no work experience and no education, thinking your going to get a good job. This isn't 1950, this is 2018.

With a good education and the right skills, you can move up a lot quicker in America.

In the 1960s a steelworker with no education and not much skill was able to make more than a middle management Starbucks manager, was able to pay off a house in 7 years, support a wife, 2 kids and 2 cars on the income he made in his steel mill.

That American dream was being eliminated in the 1970s.

The American dream ended long before that, when the country was sold out.

Your talking about an era half a century ago, not very realistic is it.

It began with the creation of the Federal Reserve and the federal income tax in 1913 and shortly thereafter, although no one will admit it, with the woman's vote in 1920, which changed politics in the U.S. forever. Creeping socialism first began with the woman's vote, because women value security over liberty. Then, because of the woman's vote, the country suffered the onslaught of the New Deal. Then Nixon abandoned the gold standard in 1971 (i.e., the unilateral cancellation of the direct international convertibility of the United States dollar to gold). This resulted in the ability to incur national debt without any sort of financial restraint.

The strength and resiliency of America, its people, and its economy is demonstrated by the ability to withstand all of these idiocies. Unfortunately, the creeping socialism of the last fifty years and the resulting hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt and unfunded liabilities has resulted in a debt that no country in the history of the world has ever survived. The U.S. GNP is about $20 trillion. So, even if the U.S. could use its entire annual GNP to pay down debt (and spent absolutely nothing on anything else), it would take about ten years to pay off two hundred trillion dollars in debt and unfunded liabilities.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin...c0e7cb65b1

The only reason that the U.S. has survived this debt so far is that the U.S. benefits from issuing the world's reserve currency. It is a little known fact that most U.S. dollars exist outside the United States, in the form of trade dollars, petrodollars, etc. When the U.S. becomes publicly insolvent, the other nations of the world will balk at holding a worthless fiat currency. Almost no one in the U.S. understands any of these economic concepts -- and the great reset will destroy many lives. It is best to diversify your assets throughout the world. It is a prudent course of action even if the very worst fails to materialize.