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(06-12-2018 09:56 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  

I think it was a combination of both and the shit test aspect of it succeeded in frustrating the OP.

Excellent post Bday.

OP comes across as argumentative in his story and in his responses here. (He would disagree of course.) What most girls want is to have fun, and to be able to integrate you into their other friends and groups eventually without embarrassment.
Cue OP saying that he didn't embarrass himself it was her fault.

OP's rigid rule announcement simply stated to the girl the opposite. She is thinking: "He is no fun and if I bring him to any group to hang out and have drinks he will embarrass me in front of my friends perhaps nit picking the bill or his share, or announcing that he will or won't pay this or that." She muses on "Plus he is no fun because he is worried about my ethnicity, plus he is no fun because he is trying to put me into sub-categories of Indonesian, plus he is probably flat broke." Cue OP saying no none of these things are true.

A great man once said "society regards those who can't and won't as the same." Your announcement that you won't pay OP is absolutely equal in effect to saying you can't pay. It is an immutable law. You may be able to pull smoothly off the not paying without this effect but not by announcing it. Cue OP saying it isn't this way.

There are subtle little messages, meanings and rules about paying in groups and on dates. By coming into situations with rigid hard and set rules you miss out on sometimes great moments in life where flexibility and openness will take you places you didn't imagine. When done right, inviting someone is like a kind of gift. When done subtly and flawlessly it enhances the date or event. When you need to split it, when done flawlessly it is a non issue. When you get invited you know how to be a gracious recipient because you have done the inviting yourself at some point. Cue OP saying he already knows this.

[Mizo1234]

I think OP problem was reading too much PUA material . Those materials usually calls for male not pay ,...,etc .
You can’t just take this stuff at face value .

[Supreme4ever]

OP chosen to bring up he doesn't pay for drinks..... that's ok , but then asked about her ethnicity on the first meeting mind you another semi flag for chicks, and can hurt to get the bang (which is the point) 3 Strikes for bringing up politics. There are three topics should never be brought up in professional settings ie first time meeting. Sex, religion and politics..... Being a business pro I would have thought he would no that. I get plenty of Bangs by not being defensive at all and laugh at shit test. I only listen to half of what a lizard say and subconsciously relay that I want to fuck the shit out of her. He portrayed asshole game that only works in groups or on a lizard who knows ur Uber value. My game is aloof abundance btw. OP needs to adjust game accordingly for the quick lay. NEVER BRING UP the 3 CONVO KILLERS on introduction.

[Off The Reservation]

OP where did you go?

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(06-10-2018 09:28 PM)howard_roark714 Wrote:  

Liberal culture is a disease.

I think that I actually prefer liberal women for short term sex partners. You probably would as well if you got better at handling their shit tests. Liberal girls throw value signaling shit tests at you to make sure you are part of their "in-group". You will actually perform better with them if you don't give them what they want, but you can't blow up the interaction as you did.

I never ask Asian girls their ethnicity directly. Why? Because every fucking douchebag they meet in the US asks that question. I don't really care what her direct ethnicity is... what I care about is getting laid.

The way to handle Liberal shit tests is to use their own value structure against them. I went on a date with this girl that literally worked for Bernie Sanders. Tall girl with HUGE tits and a decent face. She went off about Trump and immigration policy. I told her that "I Agree with her feelings, but that the policy she supports is racist". Before she could go off... I pointed out that in Chicago you have 200,000 black men that cannot find a job, yet 500,000 illegal immigrants are working under the table. This put her in a double bind. She either supports illegal immigrants or BLM. She literally could not choose. She also didn't talk about politics with me much afterwards. As a final piece... later that evening I fucked her "like an animal"... her words not mine.

[Mess O.]

Nice, goddammit! Fuckin' nice.