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Esoteric reality and Human origins speculation thread
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Esoteric reality and Human origins speculation thread

Quote: (06-01-2018 05:35 PM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

My problem with the universe as a simulation theory is mostly with the logic behind it. Sure, I believe it's 100% possible we might end up making a VR Universe Life Sim. But I have never gotten the sense that that was every a real human priority in this physical reality; to make a role playing game. Sure, it's a nice hobby, but not the main thing we have always ever wanted to create. And that same logic should apply to those "simulation" creators who are one fractal level above us. Then everything we have experienced here so far is just a silly hobby game. Sure, but why would our sim-runners want to do this as their highest aspiration. Go up as many fractal levels you want and the same question remains.

Secondly, it just seems very unlikely that this creation would just be a big fractal spiral of sims within sims within sims within a sim. Logic would dictate that there is a beginning, somewhere, along this chain of simulations. The un-simmed simulator so to speak. Funnily enough, the uncaused creator of creation, i.e. "prime mover", is the exact theological definition that Catholics (monotheists) have of God. In a sense, if the simulation within a simulation theory is true, it would seem to affirm Thomas of Aquinas' definition of God.



What's interesting to consider is that if we ARE in a simulation, then we have no clue as to the "real" nature of the universe - it's size, scope, timelines, spatial dimensions, origin etc. The "real" universe could be vastly different than our perceived one. As in utterly unrecognizable.

Perhaps this universe, its history, and its physical laws, are the whole point of the sim. To see how things would turn out with a universe tuned to our settings. We do this sort of thing all the time with monte carlo simulations, weather and climate sims etc. We may be one of trillions running simultaneously to gain better insight into some esoteric aspect of reality way beyond our ability to even comprehend. What seems like billions of years to us is only an illusion. Who know how fast the sim is really running? It's freaky to consider.

And, for all practical purposes, whatever is running the sim is quite literally God - Omnipotent. What if the whole notion of an all powerful monotheistic deity was actually much closer to the truth than we ever thought? Religions explain away these dieties as being supernatural, and in a way, they are - they exist outside the laws of our universe (ie simulation), and they created this universe out of whole cloth. What is the functional difference between an entity that exists independently of our universe and its laws vs an authentic religious God?

Right now there's some Godlike entity starting ten thousand new string phenomenology simulations, but this time with slight tweaks to the Kähler manifold Dolbeault operators. Should take about an hour in actual times, but to those poor bastards in the sims, it will seem to last 100 billion years, and life will be tough...
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Quote: (06-01-2018 12:55 PM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

Very interesting comments so far. I have a question for everyone.

I don't understand the spiritual role or place of the "Asian" people in the human universe. I am defining "Asian people" as: Mongolian (Ghenghis Khan), Turkic (original Seljuq invaders of Turkey), Thai, Vietnamese, Han Chinese, Japanese et cetera... But also Native Americans and Aztecs and Inca's and Mayans.

What I mean to say is that I don't know of any narratives where they are accounted for. For example where is the Asiatic son of Noah who populated the East in the stories? Or where is the Hindu tribe besides the Asura and the Devas that populated the East. I find that Aryan (Hindu+Western) spiritual narratives do not explain anything about the Asiatic people.

But I also don't know what the origin stories are of the Asiatic people either. Do the Chinese and the Japanese have a Great Flood myth as well? And how do the Asiatic people account for Caucasians, Africans and so on?

From my limited understanding it seems that Asians and Caucasians draw a complete blank when accounting for each other in their spiritual narratives.

According to the official theory, Europeans and East Asians are close cousins, branching off from each other roughly 20,000 years ago. I believe there was contact between certain Indo-European tribes and Asiatics as early as the 1st millenium BC. The Yuezhi definitely appear Indo-Euro, and had expanded into modern China by then.

Contact may have been earlier, as the Kurgans/Scythians/Ubaid(?) were a nomadic steppe people which could have expanded across central Asia. At one point I had mapped out all the tribes in the region at different times, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I think the Yuezhis were pushed out of the region by the Xiognu, who may have been a Turkic or Mongolic people.

From the Western side, some writers place Asiatics under the nations of Japheth, while others place them under Ham. I should also mention that the table of nations is considered pseudohistorical and not accepted by mainstream historians. Even if we are to include Asiatics in this mechanism, I think it still does not account for Southeast Asians or American Indians.

I know much less about the RgVeda, but it appears they had mapped out a few dozen different tribes. The ones which were routinely raided by the indo-aryans were called Dasa. But it's something worth reading more on to see if there was greater significance of different tribes in their pantheon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rigvedic_tribes

There are a number of flood myths in Asia/the Americas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_(China)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_myt...lood_myths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orang_Seletar#Legends
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temuan_peo...ood_legend
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu%27u
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_flood_myths

More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_flood_myths

I know this doesn't answer your question, so maybe they don't properly account for each other, or maybe their associations with each other has been hidden for whatever reason.
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That's a great point. Perhaps we do simply inhabit a glorified simulation editor, simply being iteration #1,767,808 with a variables packet including: bipedalism, consciousness, gravity, time and Kim Kardashian. Maybe there are worlds where all lifeforms breathe carbon dioxide, maybe in the higher realms above our simulation, humanity is a lifeform in it's totality, and we are actually just micro-aspects of this greater organism.

What I think is important to ponder is how important we humans are in this creation. All of our thoughts and language are in a sense, human-biased. Money for example is a fictitious psychological construct we have all agreed upon has value, in the human domain it is all-powerful. But a hungry lion doesn't care if you have a billion or $0.00 it will still eat you all the same indiscriminately.

It's impossible to prove if creation is fundamentally human-centric. The current materialist perspective is just random evolution, in which case we're not. Concepts such as morality, or the heroes journey, myth, storytelling, love, sacrifice... these are all fundamentally human-centric. From our perspective, it really does seem that this universe is about our stories, our myths, love and morality. But maybe that's just our human perception bias projecting our own thinking on creation.

But cosmology remains perhaps the most important question we can ask. Are we in a creation that is sustained and allowed for by a God outside of this universe (monotheism); are we all part of the One, a great all pervasive fractal pantheism; are we trapped souls in the physical realm, enslaved by Archon's and an evil Demiurge in a fallen reality from the higher realms? Or are all these narratives just projections of human themes, and is the nature of reality something all-together different than can ever be grasped by our human faculties; outside of temporality, mortality, morality, cyclism, hierarchy and language?
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Quote: (06-01-2018 07:49 PM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

That's a great point. Perhaps we do simply inhabit a glorified simulation editor, simply being iteration #1,767,808 with a variables packet including: bipedalism, consciousness, gravity, time and Kim Kardashian. Maybe there are worlds where all lifeforms breathe carbon dioxide, maybe in the higher realms above our simulation, humanity is a lifeform in it's totality, and we are actually just micro-aspects of this greater organism.

What I think is important to ponder is how important we humans are in this creation. All of our thoughts and language are in a sense, human-biased. Money for example is a fictitious psychological construct we have all agreed upon has value, in the human domain it is all-powerful. But a hungry lion doesn't care if you have a billion or $0.00 it will still eat you all the same indiscriminately.

It's impossible to prove if creation is fundamentally human-centric. The current materialist perspective is just random evolution, in which case we're not. Concepts such as morality, or the heroes journey, myth, storytelling, love, sacrifice... these are all fundamentally human-centric. From our perspective, it really does seem that this universe is about our stories, our myths, love and morality. But maybe that's just our human perception bias projecting our own thinking on creation.

But cosmology remains perhaps the most important question we can ask. Are we in a creation that is sustained and allowed for by a God outside of this universe (monotheism); are we all part of the One, a great all pervasive fractal pantheism; are we trapped souls in the physical realm, enslaved by Archon's and an evil Demiurge in a fallen reality from the higher realms? Or are all these narratives just projections of human themes, and is the nature of reality something all-together different than can ever be grasped by our human faculties; outside of temporality, mortality, morality, cyclism, hierarchy and language?

I remember reading an implication of Godel's Theory of Incompleteness is that, as a subset of an ordered system ( ie the universe and it's logical laws of mathematics), we humans can never fully describe (ie understand, "truly know") reality in all its fullness. We can only describe some parts of it fully, or model it roughly in its entirety, to get a sense of what the whole might actually be.. which brings us back to the purpose of simulations [Image: smile.gif] Simulations may be a way for life and the universe to understand itself
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In the case of simulation, origin of simulation does not stem from this reality. It is not like The Matrix where machines (which you can see and feel) created computer simulation. There are tools available for the entities in other realities which enable them to create something in the reality "below" them. Thus the term demiurge came to be. Being that is godly in nature and is a worker that makes something.

Now, where opinions differ is what is allegiance of the being/beings that created this universe. Some religions or spiritual movements distinctly tells us that creator is an evil being and this here is a prison reality, which has honeypot traps to draw souls to incarnate here. Jesus said that Satan is the ruler of Earth, but what if he is literally ruler and creator of Earth? That is same like Yazidis belief which states that Peacock Angel inherited ownership of the universe from the God. In other version, he is the creator himself. But in both cases he is not The God and is apart from Him.
So what does this tell us? God exists but might not have been part of this world. It is only in minority of cases where he shines in this reality and that is basically for saints/yogis/etc.
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Quote: (06-02-2018 01:26 AM)sterling_archer Wrote:  

God exists but might not have been part of this world. It is only in minority of cases where he shines in this reality and that is basically for saints/yogis/etc.

Everything in your post might be true, but let me assure you that it takes much less then being a perfect saint or a dedicated hermit yogi to experience presence of divinity in your life. You just must posses a small amount of faith, someone said even as little as mustard seed, and you must act with it and you are already set to experience some positive feedback from above in your life.

What is faith? Faith is not believing in some dogmas or scriptures or words of some preacher.

Faith is believing YOU can tap into the pool of divine energy and act with it. This is simple like in The Secret

But there is more. Be aware, that raw energy without structure is diabolic.

To not burn yourself or let your energy be consumed be certain parasitic entities you must bring structure to your newfound energy by adopting a moral code and ethics and try to act from position of love only. This is where it becomes more complex and you need true spirituality and not just a feel good quasi-spirituality like the secret or some new agey dopey stuff.

Now then when you wish to maintain an impeccable container for your energy a.k.a developing finer bodies - you may decide to become more saint or more yogi.

That is basically all it is about breaking matrix and magick and all the worlds religions in a nutshell.
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I agree with you. I might have accidentally omitted all other people who strive to cultivate their life and faith by writing just "saints/yogis/etc." It is a slip on my part and I don't believe that ONLY saints and yogis experience divinity.
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"are we trapped souls in the physical realm?"

Maybe this. We all do 'visit' another 'dimension' daily when we dream. Where are we when we dream? Does't the oniric world feels like a "place"?! Maybe that's the 'real' reality and we are just stuck in this phisical simulation.

What would be really crazy was if it turned out we were enginered by aliens. No one would be cracking jokes about all those history channel docs anymore.
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Focus on the things he starts to talk about at 31th minute. He gets it.




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Great share. Rex has a great show with interesting guests. Let me share a great talk video I stumbled on recently.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4JIsTjlm_Kk

Not to say I fully agree, but they were able to raise many interesting points. For me it's also interesting to hear high IQ leftist perspectives, along the lines of challenging my own thinker/prover mechanism. The sexuality of the two speakers is something to keep in mind, but I feel it didn't affect this talk specifically as much.
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Leak Project really has amazing share of guests, from all walks of life. For example you have this guy here that talks about spirituality, or some guys that talk about aliens or those who talk about deep state. There is everything for everyone and I am pleased we have such a channel with huge choice of interesting guests.
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Quote: (06-01-2018 12:55 PM)dtpilgrim Wrote:  

But I also don't know what the origin stories are of the Asiatic people either. Do the Chinese and the Japanese have a Great Flood myth as well? And how do the Asiatic people account for Caucasians, Africans and so on?

From my limited understanding it seems that Asians and Caucasians draw a complete blank when accounting for each other in their spiritual narratives.

The Chinese have a flood myth that is actually a pretty formative event in the founding of the country. The legend goes that there were three virtuous emperors who reversed a long period of moral decline when faced by the flood as a test/punishment from heaven. The last of these emperors mobilized the entire country and the powers of the gods to control the flood and force it east, and he founded China's first historical dynasty.
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Very entertaining thread. I was browsing channels on TV and came across Monsters inc. Hell, that movie's idea is the archon theory hidden in plain sight.
Monsters come through doors to humans world and use the fear of children as their energy. Intentional? Wish I knew.
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I believe we're just animals, and God is nature. Jesus was the greatest human who ever lived, reached such value that he became a martyr for the ages. Nature's special human, morally perfect.

The comparison with animals is easy to make, and the ancient stories are the describing of our instincts and urges as animals. History repeats itself because we are animals, under the full control of nature, and thus our history is not really ours; we are nature itself; life's endgame.

Even the teachings of the Bible align with those of Plato and Aristotle--there is only one moral truth, and that is to do what's natural, what helps us survive as a species.
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I think this simulation theory is convincing.

When you try using the most advanced telescopes and you can't see outside your universe because it conveniently expands faster than light travels, you are probably living in a simulation.

When you try looking at a small stuff like atoms and you keep finding out it's made of smaller and smaller stuff without end preventing you from seeing it, you are probably living in a simulation.

When the universe acts like a particle when there is a conscious observer and like a wave when there is none, you are probably living in a simulation, not unlike a videogame.

The universe seems to be a wave function of probabilities until an observer collapses it. It seems to be designed similar to a computer simulation where every detail is not 'fixed' in place and only called upon when needed to conserve computing/processing power. This leads me to believe there is a computer running our simulation and countless others has finite processing power. Had it had limitless power, there would be no wave function and the universe would be constant and fixed regardless of whether an observer was acting upon it.

Why are these higher beings doing this? The same reasons use them. For enjoyment, and for when mathematical models break down when there are too many variables (ie trying to predict the motion of planets and stars). It's likely that their AI is just running thousands of simulations to figure out different answers to a specific problem in the substrate reality.
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A lot of the stuff you guys are touching was translated from the dead sea scrolls and nag Hamadi texts. Very gnostic beliefs. The films mentioned are even more a curious choice as they're all written by the Wachowski Brothers who have a unique finger on the pulse of these archetypes.

The creation story about the demiurge basically stems from a female entity doing something dumb and creating an ugly monster of true ignorance.

It's a fun read and the texts really answered a lot of my questions on creation.

Take a look, lots of other stuff can be found on this site too. http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/origin-Barnstone.html

There's also a story that explains reincarnation but not in the same way that Hindus do. When we reincarnate we dont come back in this world but another one with completely different physical rules governing that world (ex heat sinks, cold rises).

It's fascinating and equally terrifying. It brings to the idea that Jesus was providing those of us who seek him an escape from the vosicious repeating cycles.

Matter is a prison. It's a big prison no doubt, but a prison nonetheless. Make no mistake about it.
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The idea of a reincarnation trap is a terrifying thought indeed for a westerner.
I have been studying it for a while now and have come across countless of NDEs reporting the white light, where your loved deceased ones will welcome you and it will feel better than any drug in this world. If you decide not to enter, which can be challenge of the hardest kind, you won't be reincarnated.

David Icke goes further to state that the moon has a machine built on it which project this so called matrix where we reside. Pretty far fetched but at this point everything is possible.
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Quote: (11-09-2018 04:28 AM)loremipsum Wrote:  

The idea of a reincarnation trap is a terrifying thought indeed for a westerner.

But if you just put idea of an evil, rebellious being, which is apart and enemy of God creating this reality than "reincarnation trap" is an easy thing to understand. It is practically a soul mining operation.
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Yep it's the gnostic view. Does that mean that Judaism is worshipping the demiurge?.
Some gnostics say that Jesus did not refer to the Demiurge in NT, rather the benevolent Higher god. Why would Jesus still quote OT, or is tampered text?
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Quote: (11-09-2018 12:27 PM)loremipsum Wrote:  

Some gnostics say that Jesus did not refer to the Demiurge in NT, rather the benevolent Higher god. Why would Jesus still quote OT, or is tampered text?

That is what I also think. In Bible it is clearly stated that Satan is ruler of this world.

John 12:31
31 Now is the judgment of this world; now will the ruler of this world be cast out.

Ephesians 2:2
2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience—

John 5:19
19 We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.
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Seems like a good place for this post

thread-66295...pid1881623

"Vault-Co was like this blog, only funnier, more succinct, and more focused on things relating to prepping, like building vaults, hacking old technology to produce survival tech, and so on. But he was actually completely wiped from search engines, as if he never existed. And the Wayback machine as well.

There was only one major way he diverged from all the other survivalist/right-wing blogs. He ardently asserted that there is an ancient race of extremely tall (8-9 ft) redheaded hominids with unusually large skulls that were protruding in the back, which has existed through human history in secret, and ruled via conspiracies with regular humans, from behind the scenes. He called them Melonheads. He often pointed out articles from the past where their skeletons were found, and photographed, and produced news articles about the finds, only for the Skeletons to disappear, with nobody ever knowing what happened to them.

The theory also seemed to indicate they interbreed with humans, but that they maintain their perceptions of themselves as a sort of master race designed to manipulate the rest of us, and they control our governments to this day. He also, as part of this maintained the Neanderthals were a breed of hominid that had evolved past humans, having been culled by Ice-Age conditions, and that humans were some sort of construct of the Melonheads, designed to genocide the Neanderthals, who were the only real threat to Melonhead power.


At some point he felt the Melonheads had tried to use a pathogen to wipe out their competition but it backfired and killed most of the Melonheads off, forcing them to interbreed with humans to save their race. And today, they are the Cabal.

One, Vault-co was always eerily prescient on a lot of things. He was a sharp guy, who read a lot. He made assertions about Neanderthals and anthropology years before you saw journals breathlessly relate what he had been saying for years. Two, there was something about his site that the powers that be wanted to stifle. And three, as crazy as that theory sounds, it one of only two things I see that could possibly explain the closure.

The other was he took a walkaround some Costco’s in Australia, and noticed vents from some subterranean structure, and then began probing his way down into it, ultimately finding a big tunnel leading in the direction of a military base, and some guards. I did a post on it, explaining at the time he would have triggered surveillance and government attention. Apparently Costco is being used as a giant Government Prepper warehouse, with the food kept date-current by the plebes coming in and buying the old stuff at a discount. Underground, the government has already prepped the tunnels to sweep all the Costco stock away to bunkers when they shutter the stores as the mushroom clouds rise.

It is possible the Australian government wanted that post taken down, so their intel people posed as British Royal Family Satanist Pedophiles, and threatened him to take his whole site down because of his posts on the Royals’ baby buggery, when in reality they wanted the Costco posts down. But strangely he was getting banned from Google for long before that, so I am not sure it was just the Costco. Maybe he had stumbled on something else even before that, since his archives went back 17 years. I’d love to pour over his archives, looking for the nerve he hit."


Vault-CO Archive
https://vcrd.fahy.co/

Lots of interesting stuff about Neanderthals, hominids, melonheads etc....I find all the anthropology stuff very fascinating. So Melonheads are basically an explanation for the Elohim theory from the OP.

Quote: (05-31-2018 05:54 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

"Creation and Seeding of Humanity by Advanced species

The bible (and esoteric books like the Book of Enoch) describe that prior to humanity, there existed an advanced race of godlike people called the Elohim. Similarly, the ancient Sumerian religion is said to have described a race called the Annunaki who seeded the earth with humanity to serve their own purposes.

In the movies Prometheus and Covenant, they depict an advanced species which creates humanity and seeds them on Earth. The creatures seem to be bent on the destruction of humanity, perhaps to seed the Earth with a favored lineage (such as shown in the Matrix and discussed in the Bible)."

https://vcrd.fahy.co/melonheads-confirme...minid.html
Melonheads Confirmed As The Third Hominid!!!
I believed I would be vindicated by DNA testing in the near future and I was right.

People will take a long time to realize the significance of what has been uncovered here.

The third hominid is the answer to all the other questions. The third hominid is the prime mover, the essential pivot point that explains what otherwise would be a mystery about the other two.

When we ask who is the Neanderthal? Who is Homo Sapiens? We will never know the answers to those questions unless we are willing to contemplate the idea that neither one of those races was the dominant ruling class on this planet for a million years. The melonheads were.

What happened to the Neanderthals happened because they were the nearest thing to potential competitors that the melonheads had ever seen. They resolved to nip that problem in the bud and tried three different methods beginning around 120,000 years ago.

1. A genetically engineered virus designed to target Neanderthals. Failed. Mutated, backfired and killed more Melonheads and their slaves than Neanderthals. We have antibodies to this day to this supervirus, if you are of European descent you have antibodies in your system right now that would still kick in to protect you from being exposed to this virus. I hate to think what happened to the melonhead who proposed this brilliant strategy but it didn't work out correctly at all.

2. Okay, they brainstormed for a while through several generations and then they decided that Neanderthals would not survive a long term solar blackout compared with the deep refuges of the Melonheads and their monolithic structures. They detonated an implosion device in the supervolcano at Toba around 80,000 years ago. The Toba supervolcano caldera is the only one of its kind on the planet, consisting of a huge vaporized sphere that opened the eruption beneath it. The Sun was blacked out for twenty years and even the melonheads were starving by the time the surface was inhabitable again. They then discovered that the Neanderthals had been building fantastic subterranean tunnels that ran the length of Europe and reached as far as Turkey. Turns out the Neanderthals were the most incredible survivalists of all time and several decades of no summers and no sun rolled off their backs like water off a duck. The melonheads realized that after a million years of routine hibernation the Neanderthals were probably better equipped than they were to survive such an event.

3. The melonhead who suggested the drastic Toba plan probably took a long walk off a short plank and his successor knew he'd better get it right this time. They planned and researched for a long time before they made their final powerpoint presentation to the general committee. They proposed developing a new bioweapon on two legs from a mixture of their slave classes, genes from Neanderthals and some rhesus monkeys as well as some other odd junk that science still is having trouble trying to figure out how that could possibly be in our genome. The new creature would be customized for only one real purpose in life and that would be to exterminate Neanderthals one-by-one, even pursuing them into their caves on foot if necessary. They would breed like rabbits and be so regimented and autocratic they would scarcely even be called human. They would simply sweep Europe starting at the southern tip and when the job was done, all kinds of safety locks were introduced into their genetic design that would make certain they would never be able to organize themselves into anything formidable enough to challenge melonhead rule. One of these safety measures was to sever the corpus callosum between the left and right halves of the brain so that they would still be capable of very complex behaviors but would never really be able to integrate their consciousness.

The third solution worked like a charm except for one glitch. The Sapiens took the beautiful Neanderthal women as war captives and the children were made into a permanent slave caste. This became a self-reinforcing adaptive mechanism because of all the feuding Sapiens tribes it was the ones with the huge Neanderthal slave populations that easily overcame everyone else. In short order the Neanderthals were mythologized as the Tuatha De Danann and widely credited later as being the source of all craft, civilization and progress even as the Neanderthal hybrids were reduced to chattel subsistence for countless tens of thousands of years. The 'Thal was a despised creature treated with less respect than a dog, forbidden to look anyone in the eyes and likely made to sleep on the open ground outside the village at night. In the day, their clever hands manufactured weapons that were infinitely superior to those that humans could make themselves and then the 'Thals were deployed as shock troops at the start of every battle to soften up the opposition for easy conquests of tribes with no Neanderthal slaves of their own. The smartest tribes probably sent their 'Thal hounds in at night in surprise raids on other villages because their night vision was better and the 'Thal could fight extremely well at the witching hour for a variety of reasons, not least of which the projectile weapons which had originally killed them at a distance were useless in darkness. This gave rise to legends of the Neanderthals as werewolves and night spirits who were intensely feared by peoples who had no such soldiers in their own tribes.

In the modern era, all the subconscious relationships between the three groups persist to this day. Melonheads and Sapiens automatically think of the Neanderthal as their conquered servants even though their entire existence depends on his innovativeness, problem solving ability and creative energies. The Neanderthal is a kind of "living ghost" who leads a rootless, transient existence offering his labor whenever people are desperate enough to require it (which is often) in all major technical, mechanical, scientific and engineering tasks. The 'Thals either break their chains and achieve independence or else they are their brother's servant, as Isaac elegantly prophesizes to his son Esau as a metaphor in Genesis. Civilizations settle into a predictable pattern lasting roughly 200 years divided into ten generations of men. The first 100 years the Neanderthals build everything up ... and the second 100 years the melonheads and their slaves proceed to tear it all to pieces and bring it down. The net result for history is a recurring tragedy that goes nowhere and never achieves any lasting progress in anything.

The entire planet suffered some enormous upheaval around 12,000 years ago that took a huge toll on the existing social order and in the ten millennia that followed the melonheads were never able to achieve the levels of control they had previously, although pharaonic Egypt came close for a while. By the time the Romans enslaved the Greeks and started their reich the whole human population was starting to lose the brain mass they had stolen through the organized rape of the Neanderthal woman and intelligence was in sharp decline everywhere. The minor dawn of the Renaissance and Enlightenment peaked in a nadir that was the briefest yet in the history of world civilizations and it was rapidly becoming apparent that "the future" was an increasingly difficult organization to provide staffing for. The long term trend was down and back to the mud for the human gene pool and some days it looked like a race to the bottom for everyone. The only real hope for mankind was the end of the Holocene and a return to a colder planet that selected for sharper minds instead of just sharper tongues
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Fucking hell should not be read before bed.
Reminded me of the Giant of Kandahar, a supposed giant with, you guessed it, redhead. Possible melonhead?
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#48

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No, he would probably be original Neanderthal (big and strong) and not melonhead (probably physically weak but smart hominid).
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Esoteric reality and Human origins speculation thread

Neanderthals built advanced cave structures over 175,000 years ago
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arch...te/484070/

https://vcrd.fahy.co/neanderthals-just-c...pirin.html
https://vcrd.fahy.co/neanderthal-monkeys...again.html
These "primitive creatures"...

Built 6 step compression ovens to forge malleable pitch into ergonomic grips
Created complex artwork with perspective and abstract idealized representations
Had a jewelry drill that could bore perfect circles in emeralds, jade and other precious stones
Showed evidence of having constructed compound bows
Had complex funerals with religious artefacts, symbolic travel tokens and gifts for the afterlife
Wore makeup and manufactured rings, necklaces and armbands
Supported cradle-to-grave intensive nursing for the critically injured for the duration of their lives
Had a hyoid bone in their throats to produce ultrasound speech that carried on plains of snow
Had 4 extra genes connected with the muscles of the throat for hyper articulate speech
Domesticated all known species of useful animals including horses, dogs and cattle

... and now apparently built firewalls and windbreaks deep inside caverns that used central pit fires exhausted through natural chimneys to survive Ice Age temperatures.

It is amazing to me that after having discovered ample fossils of Southern Neanderthals (Denisovian & Amud) that towered over modern humans at 6 foot 2 (250 pounds, basically Arnold Schwarzenegger ) that they are still depicted as shorter than modern people and squat troll humped. What absolutely absurd rubbish. It is true that Cro-Magnons often towered over the Neanderthal coming in regularly at almost 7 foot tall but it is likely that any close quarters combat between a Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon ended with the Cro-Magnon crushed to the size of a shoebox. On the other hand, that lanky build and height would have been genetically perfect for killing a Neanderthal at a distance with a spear. The Cro-Magnon could easily win in numbers without ever coming within striking range.
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Esoteric reality and Human origins speculation thread

When did humans got smaller?
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