Visa-wise, best/easiest Euro/Asian country for NZ citizen to live long term?
05-24-2018, 02:39 AM
I've written a bit about myself before, but I'll give a short brief.
I'm early 20s, currently had a couple job interviews for entry level retail/hospitality work, hoping to get one part time and save. I want to save enough for savings so I can leave. Currently live with my parents, it's a mildly toxic home environment however Auckland rental prices are ridiculous and I'd have to flat(share a house) with others, and since NZ sucks anyway I plan to skip straight to moving overseas, for various reasons(sanity- girls, interesting things to do, friends, non-degenerate culture etc).
My big fear is that no country will accept me. But that's what my parents have drilled into me- I've come to realise they, at least subconsciously, are trying to undermine me as much as they can. So realistically I'm looking for an easy work visa or long term thing that would accept NZ citizens. Apparently the NZ passport is really good so there's a point in my favor despite me otherwise having no marketable skills.
The few things I want:
-As mentioned above, visas- I really, don't want to ever be forced to come back here to NZ ever again. Ultimately I have distant family in Australia if necessary.
-Sane people where I can get along with the locals and make solid friends. It means NZ is out- and I would imagine Aus and UK also. I've got a good friend sexpatting the Phils right now and he thinks there's a similar issue there also.
-Mediocre girls or better. I like hotter girls and don't mind improving my game more. I've nearly always been daygaming, so I would imagine I would want girls to be receptive to my brand of daygame(London Daygame Model, mildly direct). However it's possible that as I lose my psychological dysfunction(from family and NZ) and get well adjusted I might just drop daygame and be happy with social circle
-Ideally good(sunny) weather, but I'm starting to think this isn't as necessary as I'd thought. I'd always felt significantly healthier in NZ summer, but it seems if I feel fulfilled I'd feel better regardless of weather.
-I don't want to be stuck in poverty obviously. However things are so expensive and shoddily done in NZ it's quite possible a lot of places would still be a step up. So basically not-low material quality of life.
-Interesting activities/hobbies scene. I actually had my cousin come here to visit and he was surprised at how empty and infrequent the meetups in say, Couchsurfing were(1x/month as opposed to the standard 1x/week, I believe). It's not surprising as Kiwis don't like doing things. My guess, watching videos/vlogs of foreigners, is NZ is so bad that literally no other country will have a serious problem in this regard. I like outdoor activities and individual sport(ie rock climbing, snowboarding- but it doesn't have to be that specifically, but of that nature).
-Big, dense cities where I can public transport everywhere is ideal.
I like white girls so Europe seems like an easy choice. I don't mind Asian girls so if Asia would otherwise accept me where Europe doesn't it's also quite good. I also have no problem with the US from everything I've read it's a step up from NZ in every way(friendliness, activities, girls, material quality of life). It does seem really difficult to get into visawise and I'd also prefer not needing to drive.
Along with good country suggestions I'd also like advice on how much I should have saved- I could take the plunge on as low as 1-2k NZD but I might want to save for 5k NZD. I've always been relatively insecure/paranoid/cautious so I instinctively wanted to save more- however I realised I've internalised a lot of my parents' attempts to undermine me/my self confidence. So I need to break free, psychologically. Ultimately when I want to pull the trigger I want to cut all contact with them. So it would be super embarrassing if I then have to beg them for help again.
Edit: I would prefer not to study, however if it's an easy way to get a visa if there's no other options I would literally have to do that.
I'm early 20s, currently had a couple job interviews for entry level retail/hospitality work, hoping to get one part time and save. I want to save enough for savings so I can leave. Currently live with my parents, it's a mildly toxic home environment however Auckland rental prices are ridiculous and I'd have to flat(share a house) with others, and since NZ sucks anyway I plan to skip straight to moving overseas, for various reasons(sanity- girls, interesting things to do, friends, non-degenerate culture etc).
My big fear is that no country will accept me. But that's what my parents have drilled into me- I've come to realise they, at least subconsciously, are trying to undermine me as much as they can. So realistically I'm looking for an easy work visa or long term thing that would accept NZ citizens. Apparently the NZ passport is really good so there's a point in my favor despite me otherwise having no marketable skills.
The few things I want:
-As mentioned above, visas- I really, don't want to ever be forced to come back here to NZ ever again. Ultimately I have distant family in Australia if necessary.
-Sane people where I can get along with the locals and make solid friends. It means NZ is out- and I would imagine Aus and UK also. I've got a good friend sexpatting the Phils right now and he thinks there's a similar issue there also.
-Mediocre girls or better. I like hotter girls and don't mind improving my game more. I've nearly always been daygaming, so I would imagine I would want girls to be receptive to my brand of daygame(London Daygame Model, mildly direct). However it's possible that as I lose my psychological dysfunction(from family and NZ) and get well adjusted I might just drop daygame and be happy with social circle
-Ideally good(sunny) weather, but I'm starting to think this isn't as necessary as I'd thought. I'd always felt significantly healthier in NZ summer, but it seems if I feel fulfilled I'd feel better regardless of weather.
-I don't want to be stuck in poverty obviously. However things are so expensive and shoddily done in NZ it's quite possible a lot of places would still be a step up. So basically not-low material quality of life.
-Interesting activities/hobbies scene. I actually had my cousin come here to visit and he was surprised at how empty and infrequent the meetups in say, Couchsurfing were(1x/month as opposed to the standard 1x/week, I believe). It's not surprising as Kiwis don't like doing things. My guess, watching videos/vlogs of foreigners, is NZ is so bad that literally no other country will have a serious problem in this regard. I like outdoor activities and individual sport(ie rock climbing, snowboarding- but it doesn't have to be that specifically, but of that nature).
-Big, dense cities where I can public transport everywhere is ideal.
I like white girls so Europe seems like an easy choice. I don't mind Asian girls so if Asia would otherwise accept me where Europe doesn't it's also quite good. I also have no problem with the US from everything I've read it's a step up from NZ in every way(friendliness, activities, girls, material quality of life). It does seem really difficult to get into visawise and I'd also prefer not needing to drive.
Along with good country suggestions I'd also like advice on how much I should have saved- I could take the plunge on as low as 1-2k NZD but I might want to save for 5k NZD. I've always been relatively insecure/paranoid/cautious so I instinctively wanted to save more- however I realised I've internalised a lot of my parents' attempts to undermine me/my self confidence. So I need to break free, psychologically. Ultimately when I want to pull the trigger I want to cut all contact with them. So it would be super embarrassing if I then have to beg them for help again.
Edit: I would prefer not to study, however if it's an easy way to get a visa if there's no other options I would literally have to do that.
