[pargan]

(02-14-2013 02:17 PM)Drazen Wrote:  

I think one of the other problems in LA is that when you go out, the average age of the women is higher than most places I've been to. Lot of late 20/30-something girls out there and a good percentage of them are really really jaded and weird.

Is this statement accurate? Are a lot of the women in LA Older compared to cities like New York or Miami?

[pargan]

Also I hear Floriada/Miami is full of older retirees, I also notice there isn't many universities in Miami. Is there a smaller younger population in Miami? I prefer to get girls in my own age range 18-25, is there a shortage of college age girls in Miami?

[superiorClimber]

(05-10-2018 08:17 PM)pargan Wrote:  

Also I hear Floriada/Miami is full of older retirees, I also notice there isn't many universities in Miami. Is there a smaller younger population in Miami? I prefer to get girls in my own age range 18-25, is there a shortage of college age girls in Miami?

It sounds like you're pretty set on Miami. IMHO you won't be happy going there for the reasons you've said you are coming to the US.

Everyone in that age group I know from Miami say that the culture there is really terrible - like, women on South Beach only want you if you're driving a Ferrari and playing sponsorship game.
I'll also repeat -- Miami has the most expensive medical care in the US, and it isn't even the best quality you can find. Tech world is also better in a city like New York, where you'll find more clients and be able to travel to Boston, Washington D.C., and Philly easily for work.

If you are looking for 18-25 y/o women + excellent healthcare, you might want to check out Boston.

[pargan]

One thing I don't like is the vibe I'm getting from New York people , they seem obsessed with talking about how hardcore they are and how hard their life is and their hustle. Does the regular person in New York constantly act like they're hard? People like that are annoying especially when the claim they are "hustling" but really not doing shit.

I'm not saying I want to be around people that are completely laid back and zoned out but I just want a level of normalcy in how the average person acts and I don't want people shoving in my face and complaining how much they pay for rent and shit like that.

(05-11-2018 05:13 AM)superiorClimber Wrote:  

(05-10-2018 08:17 PM)pargan Wrote:  

Also I hear Floriada/Miami is full of older retirees, I also notice there isn't many universities in Miami. Is there a smaller younger population in Miami? I prefer to get girls in my own age range 18-25, is there a shortage of college age girls in Miami?

It sounds like you're pretty set on Miami. IMHO you won't be happy going there for the reasons you've said you are coming to the US.

Everyone in that age group I know from Miami say that the culture there is really terrible - like, women on South Beach only want you if you're driving a Ferrari and playing sponsorship game.
I'll also repeat -- Miami has the most expensive medical care in the US, and it isn't even the best quality you can find. Tech world is also better in a city like New York, where you'll find more clients and be able to travel to Boston, Washington D.C., and Philly easily for work.

If you are looking for 18-25 y/o women + excellent healthcare, you might want to check out Boston.

Honestly in my opinion most guys running sponsorship are very beta, girls use them for their money but they aren't interested in them. I think the high amount of sponsors in Miami could actually work to a younger guys favor if he has his shit together. Since there are so many beta bucks in Miami girls won't be looking for money from a younger guy and if they find them interesting most girls would rather be with a guy there own age then a beta bucks.

For guys in Miami that don't run sponsorship game, how did the girls react to you? Are they sick of the beta bucks and interested in a guy that is not really down to do sponsorship game? I doubt these girls are actually loyal to the betas, how in demand are more alpha/non beta bucks guys in Miami?

[Jetset]

(05-11-2018 06:15 AM)pargan Wrote:  

One thing I don't like is the vibe I'm getting from New York people , they seem obsessed with talking about how hardcore they are and how hard their life is and their hustle. Does the regular person in New York constantly act like they're hard?

The only people I see act like this are from a very low social class. We get a lot of transplants from the Bronx where I live and they can be hard to deal with because of this.

For educated professionals, busy schedules and high rents are just part of life and nobody is impressed. Students are mostly just trying to enjoy their time in the city on their parents' dime and are very approachable and want to go out and have a fun night.

Of course, you'll find toxic personalities and phonies in any place where there's a lot of money, I would suggest that this will be a much bigger problem in Los Angeles.

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I'll let Miami people talk more about Miami because I've only been there a few times, but I agree with what superiorClimber said: the crime rate is very high, and I've heard both New Yorkers and Los Angelinos in my life say that they consider the culture the worst of the east coast and west coast in one city.

Look, it's a little hard to read exactly what kind of lifestyle/amenities you're looking for. Don't let us tell you what you want. You're your own man, but nobody wants to see you moving to Miami thinking you'll be banging the hottest party girls in the city and ending up riding a commuter bus trying to pick up some sketchy Dominican dropout who carries a knife.

[jbkunt2]

Reading this thread is so frustrating...

WHAT IS YOUR MONTHLY BUDGET!?

If it’s at least $7k after tax... at least... then, yes NYC obviously. No competition.

You didn’t mention Chicago. Superb city and a MUCH cheaper cost of living. $4k a month there is as good as $7k in NYC.

If it’s below $4, we need to talk tier 2 options.

[jbkunt2]

Also... Miami sucks and is outrageously expensive as well. Laughable choice.

LA is not great either.

As others have said: NYC and Chicago is where it’s at.

[pargan]

(05-11-2018 09:35 AM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  

Reading this thread is so frustrating...

WHAT IS YOUR MONTHLY BUDGET!?

If it’s at least $7k after tax... at least... then, yes NYC obviously. No competition.

You didn’t mention Chicago. Superb city and a MUCH cheaper cost of living. $4k a month there is as good as $7k in NYC.

If it’s below $4, we need to talk tier 2 options.

Based on some software development contracts I've already secured I'll net $110k starting from the beginning of summer in a 6 month period. So from like end of June to end of december I'll net $110k. In a year I with downtime, travel and time between projects included I don't expect my net income to drop below $125k.

I could also potentially have a decent mid six figure exit for some software I developed but I most likely won't do this since I still see potential in the product and think it could be worth much more. I have some other products I've worked on that I'd like to exit from so those could be sources of cash injection but I am not counting on them currently.

The amount I'd be willing to spend on all expenses (not including medical treatment) such as rent,food, transport etc. is around $6k per month. Might be willing to spend more if I really feel like it or business does good or if I have to get something like a car and definitely will spend less if I'm in a lower cost of living area.

Didn't want to give to much info before cause I didn't wanna get doxed still will leave personal info at a minimum either way.

[nola]

(05-11-2018 09:36 AM)jbkunt2 Wrote:  

Also... Miami sucks and is outrageously expensive as well. Laughable choice.

LA is not great either.

As others have said: NYC and Chicago is where it’s at.

What are your pluses and minuses regarding Chicago as it compares to Miami.?

How long did you spend in each city?

[pargan]

Also which city has the best looking girls? Many people have talked about the girls but it has been more so about which city has easier girls and people have been basing it on their own game skills so it may not be applicable to someone else. Ignoring game for a second, which city has the best looking girls?

[doc holliday]

So let's say Pargan has to worry only a little about finances since he seems to make a good living. Miami has a fairly high cost of living but Florida not having any state income tax will help to offset that some so in the end he may end out coming ahead in Miami since LA and NY are very expensive places to live like Miami is but those places also have very high tax rates. Miami probably has the best looking chicks of any city in the US but they are tough. Speaking Spanish here would definitely be a big help. Personally, I like Miami a lot, I like the Latin American vibe and the weather is very nice in the late fall, winter and early spring. Summers are hot and wet and of course you have the risk of hurricanes. The cost of health care is definitely a consideration here but quality wise, you can't really go wrong in any large American city.

Chicago is cool but very different from Miami. Cheaper cost of living but higher taxes. Women are decent looking, very friendly and generally dtf. Also very easy to meet people in Chi and develop a social network which will be tougher in Miami. However, if you want that sultry, hot, big fake boobs look with a Latin flare, then go to Miami. If it's a choice between NY and Chi, then for me, Chi hands down. I'm not a big fan of the NY lifestyle of rats in a cage, I'm so hard because I live in NY etc. Weather in Chicago blows though especially in the winter. Crime sucks in both places. You'll likely get laid more in Chi but your quality will be higher in Miami.

Chicago is in the middle of the country so its easy to get anywhere in the US by plane, Miami is convenient to Latin American locations for weekend trips. Sounds like your leaning towards Miami which is understandable but any of Chi, NY or Mia would be good. I would avoid LA though, terrible city to live in, has the worst of all of the other cities other than weather.

[phluff127]

It really comes down to what you want to do.

I'd personally choose Miami, but when I say Miami, I mean Miami BEACH. Big difference. Personally after living in Miami and Miami Beach for four years I can say that you don't need to spend a lot living there as long as you don't waste it. Lots of poor people live in Miami and it can be reasonably priced (ie less than Chicago, where I've also lived). Also, if you live on south beach (which you should) it doesn't have to be that expensive. You can get a great Cuban sandwich and cafe con leche for under 7 bucks right by my old crib just north of fifth street. Also, living on south beach you walk even more than NYC or Chicago so transportation costs can be next to zero dollars. If you live on south beach you don't need a car.

But if you're going to be bed ridden And can't go to the beach I wouldn't choose Miami. Heal up tho bro

[pargan]

I also have a feeling Miami has the hottest girls out of the 3 cities. Miami has a beach culture and hot weather all year round so girls probably stay fit and probably look good with no clothes, however in New York they might look good with clothes but when they're off you might see it was an illusion. Even though LA could also be considered "beach culture" I don't think the girls are as good looking as Miami. Is this true from what people have seen?

[AceP]

NYC is the safest bet for US. Lots of international people from around the world here.

If you have a good body and live by the beach, you can invite beach girls into your house party. I am talking about Miami obviously.

[jordypip23]

(05-15-2018 11:01 PM)phluff127 Wrote:  

It really comes down to what you want to do.

I'd personally choose Miami, but when I say Miami, I mean Miami BEACH. Big difference. Personally after living in Miami and Miami Beach for four years I can say that you don't need to spend a lot living there as long as you don't waste it. Lots of poor people live in Miami and it can be reasonably priced (ie less than Chicago, where I've also lived). Also, if you live on south beach (which you should) it doesn't have to be that expensive. You can get a great Cuban sandwich and cafe con leche for under 7 bucks right by my old crib just north of fifth street. Also, living on south beach you walk even more than NYC or Chicago so transportation costs can be next to zero dollars. If you live on south beach you don't need a car.

But if you're going to be bed ridden And can't go to the beach I wouldn't choose Miami. Heal up tho bro

Hahah good point. Good thing you cleared it up for the OP. From my visits to Miami, comparing Miami Beach to inland Miami proper is almost like comparing 5th Avenue in Manhattan to the South Bronx or a not so ritzy part of Brooklyn. LoL. I know there are exceptions, but Miami Beach certainly seemed to live up to its party island bubble reputation to some extent.

[pargan]

I was thinking NYC doesn't have much open space like LA or Miami does or a beach culture. Does this result in NYC people being more unfit? Or do NYC have better physiche cause they walk a lot? Which general attitude of people is easier to deal with? I imagine in Los Angeles the aspiring actor bs and everyone trying to get insta famous would get old quick do a lot of people there act like this? In Miami I hear they're gold diggers and in NYC I hear they're standoffish. In general which city of people is easier to get along with and more enjoyable to be around? One last question let's talk objectively on how you would rank the girls in each city without taking into consideration the difficulty of them, just rank them looks wise.

[Jagnum]

(05-25-2018 01:07 PM)pargan Wrote:  

I was thinking NYC doesn't have much open space like LA or Miami does or a beach culture. Does this result in NYC people being more unfit? Or do NYC have better physiche cause they walk a lot? Which general attitude of people is easier to deal with? I imagine in Los Angeles the aspiring actor bs and everyone trying to get insta famous would get old quick do a lot of people there act like this? In Miami I hear they're gold diggers and in NYC I hear they're standoffish. In general which city of people is easier to get along with and more enjoyable to be around? One last question let's talk objectively on how you would rank the girls in each city without taking into consideration the difficulty of them, just rank them looks wise.

(ex) New Yorker here. I think you're overthinking it.

How you do in any of these cities will depend on YOU. If you are good and motivated at meeting people, it doesn't matter where you live.

To answer your question before I share my advice, Miami of course has the best looking girls. LA in my opinion is better looking than NYC at the top shelf. NYC will be much easier than either Miami or LA to meet people and enjoy yourself. What NYC girls have going for them is they dress better, on average, than the other two cities. NYC girls are fit, as are girls in Miami and LA. There are fat and skinny girls in every one of these places.

What I'm seeing from reading this thread is the following. You're 21, and have a nice salary, but you're not a millionaire with a sick beach house and a life-of-the-party big social circle kind of guy. You're not going to plow the top shelf unless you have that, or you have some sick game, you go out 4 nights a week, you daygame a lot, and you're jacked. So for the girls it sounds like you'll be going after, you've been given lots of good recommendations for cities.

Like an early poster said, it sounds like you've already decided on Miami, so I'm not really sure endlessly comparing the options will do you more good at this point. If Miami is calling your name, then just do it and make the most of it.

Focus on YOU and you can mold any of these cities into what you're looking to achieve.

[GoingHAM20]

I’d pick LA if your goal is to be an incel who spends half his day in traffic and the other half dealing with fake, slimy people, lol.

I’ve yet to see a city with fewer redeeming qualities.