[Pusscrook]

Comrades,

There a 5 double standards in dating and sex that I've seen become more and more prevalent yet not seen as such a bad thing these days when women do it. When we did/do it , you pretty much were/is a pariah.

1. Older whores, dating, fucking much younger men. (Cougars get so much praise). Let a man date a whore and he's twice her age.
2. Female teachers fucking male students. Why couldn't teachers of today be around when I was in grade school? These whores get away with murder.
3. Whores, who are head of households/breadwinners (now it's o.k to support your man,make him babysit and clean the house) but if a man was the sole breadwinner, this was too much control over women and hence they needed the "fem-nazi movement".
4. "Whores of color" dating outside of their race. It used to be that if you were a man of color dating outside of his race he was a sell out. Now when these whores date outside of their race, they are either "moving up" or improving their status. I've been seeing an uptick in black lizards doing this and they were the chief complainants of this activity.
5. Female violence. It used to be that if a man portrays any signs of violence, be it shouting, exhibiting anger, discipline, or physical acts, he was said to be a monster in the making. If a whore shouts at you, or disciplines the kids in public, society sees her as a strong woman...a "take charge kind of whore". If she instigates a fight at a bar, " she's a ride or die bitch" and we brag about her to our friends at the poker table.

Have you guys noticed any double standards that is becoming quite alarming with how society portrays these whores?

[Aliblahba]

Yeah. Guys that think they're entitled to hot, attractive pussy, that are fat, uneducated, still living at home, jobless, ect. I see these busted dudes hitting on girls well outta their league. And we wonder why chicks in the U.S. stopped dressing up when they go out. Unwanted attention from unwanted dudes.

[blurb]

Aliblahba, agree with you on all points, but Roosh has banged women while living in his dad's basement. Yes, women will fuck "losers" so long as they are alpha enough.

[Caligula]

(09-24-2011 01:58 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Yeah. Guys that think they're entitled to hot, attractive pussy, that are fat, uneducated, still living at home, jobless, ect. I see these busted dudes hitting on girls well outta their league. And we wonder why chicks in the U.S. stopped dressing up when they go out. Unwanted attention from unwanted dudes.

The difference is that irrational self confidence in men makes them more attractive (caveat being that it becomes ridiculous and counterproductive when too far removed from reality).

Irrational self confidence in women makes them unattractive. Beauty, not charisma, is the main determiner of women's attractiveness.

A lot of so-called double standards are justified by differences of the sexes. Feminists talk about double standards as if they're inherently bad. Their favourite is that women are shamed for fucking a lot, while men are applauded. Well, it's because having a lot of sex lessens a woman's worth and increases a man's worth.

[blurb]

Double standards existed because there were two standards--one for women and one for men. For example, one wouldn't use Olympic rules and regulations for boxing at a children's boxing match. Instead, the kids usually wear extra padding and protective gear, and there is generally more oversight given to make sure that children don't unnecessarily get hurt. Similarly, one wouldn't use children's boxing rules for boxing at a professional boxing match which tend to be more like an all out animal fight. It's not unfair, it's just that these standards are appropriate at the given situations.

This is the thing with feminism. Whenever women try to get into male-dominated fields, instead of applying the same standards, another set of standards is set up specifically for women, which are usually lower than men's standards.

Has anyone seen the Olympics lately? Why are there separate men's and women's events for almost every single competition? Because a lower-or-medium level male can still dominate the strongest women in those competitions. The same thing with chess. There are separate women's chess masters and women's chess grandmaters titles given, and there is a separate world chess championship for women. The military? Dalrock succintly describes the different standards men and women have to undergo in this post: http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/...-the-guys/

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Note that while some account is made for age, the oldest, weakest, and slowest men must meet a higher standard than the youngest, strongest, and fastest women. In the case of the ammo can lifts, the lowest standard for men is more than twice that of the highest standard applied to women.

Some more I can think of:

People assume the best of women and the worst of men.

Men are the default gender when it comes to criminal activities. When people hear news about a "mysterious person" mass murdering a family in the middle of the night, they immediately picture a tall dark man that did it, and yes, it most likely was a man that did it considering that around 90% of the prison population is male, but, hey, most guys aren't criminals (99%), but it's just that there's more suspicion around them.

[Basil Ransom]

Another double standard:
Women are allowed to choose based on looks and thinness, but men are 'superficial' and 'shallow' if they do. Welcome to modern America, where the women are men and the men are castrati.

(09-24-2011 01:58 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Yeah. Guys that think they're entitled to hot, attractive pussy, that are fat, uneducated, still living at home, jobless, ect. I see these busted dudes hitting on girls well outta their league. And we wonder why chicks in the U.S. stopped dressing up when they go out. Unwanted attention from unwanted dudes.

If anything it's the opposite. Girls in their 20s and 30s are at least twice as fat as their male peers, according to national data. As others have said, 90% of guys chasing 40% of girls doesn't exactly make women act modestly.

(09-24-2011 04:41 PM)Caligula Wrote:  

A lot of so-called double standards are justified by differences of the sexes. Feminists talk about double standards as if they're inherently bad. Their favourite is that women are shamed for fucking a lot, while men are applauded. Well, it's because having a lot of sex lessens a woman's worth and increases a man's worth.

(09-24-2011 05:58 PM)blurb Wrote:  

Double standards existed because there were two standards--one for women and one for men. For example, one wouldn't use Olympic rules and regulations for boxing at a children's boxing match. Instead, the kids usually wear extra padding and protective gear, and there is generally more oversight given to make sure that children don't unnecessarily get hurt. Similarly, one wouldn't use children's boxing rules for boxing at a professional boxing match which tend to be more like an all out animal fight. It's not unfair, it's just that these standards are appropriate at the given situations.

Exactly. Every time someone uses the term double standard in my presence, I correct them. The term is a manipulative abuse of language, with an unspoken assumption that two things to which the standards are being applied are the same, that it's appropriate to apply the same standard to both. We care about how many pounds an Olympic weightlifter can move, but we don't for an Olympic archer. Because they aren't the same thing, and hold them to different standards.

Men and women are different, and occupy different roles. Applying the same standard to both is inappropriate.

The different military standards wouldn't be problematic if women occupied entirely separate roles. But they don't. There isn't one standard for truck drivers and another for machine gunners. One could argue that the different standards aim at maximizing everyone's potential. But if pure performance is what matters, women would never be in the running for many military tasks.

[Caligula]

(09-24-2011 07:00 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Every time someone uses the term double standard in my presence, I correct them. The term is a manipulative abuse of language, with an unspoken assumption that two things to which the standards are being applied are the same, that it's appropriate to apply the same standard to both.

This sums it up well. "Double standards" is Newspeak most of the time. It's rarely used appropriately and without implied value judgement.

[oldnemesis]

(09-24-2011 01:52 PM)Pusscrook Wrote:  

There a 5 double standards in dating and sex that I've seen become more and more prevalent yet not seen as such a bad thing these days when women do it. When we did/do it , you pretty much were/is a pariah.

What is the double standard in this case? To be specific, who's setting them? Are you talking about just the media coverage?

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1. Older whores, dating, fucking much younger men. (Cougars get so much praise). Let a man date a whore and he's twice her age.

Never seen any real praise to cougars. They are typically considered an "easy pussy", and is treated as such.

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2. Female teachers fucking male students. Why couldn't teachers of today be around when I was in grade school? These whores get away with murder.

This was happening all the time, pretty much same as above. However those aren't praised - typically they are convicted.

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3. Whores, who are head of households/breadwinners (now it's o.k to support your man,make him babysit and clean the house) but if a man was the sole breadwinner, this was too much control over women and hence they needed the "fem-nazi movement".

Heard that from some crazy feminists, but they're not setting any standards, it is rather representation of modern America.

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4. "Whores of color" dating outside of their race. It used to be that if you were a man of color dating outside of his race he was a sell out.

In those cases BOTH people date outside of their race. It is not possible for a chick to date outside her race, but for the dude she's dating to date inside his race. Now, vast majority of interracial couples here in Bay Area are white man and Asian woman. At the same time, there are very few "white male - black female" couples. So I guess this is the case in Midwest, where dating "outside of their race" would mean "dating a black", and they typically mean a very specific case of "white female dating a black male".

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5. Female violence. It used to be that if a man portrays any signs of violence, be it shouting, exhibiting anger, discipline, or physical acts, he was said to be a monster in the making. If a whore shouts at you, or disciplines the kids in public, society sees her as a strong woman...a "take charge kind of whore".

Seems to be the case - but this is because a lot of guys here in US are pussies and cannot stand up for themselves. Same as #3.