[Cattle Rustler]

Any updates cobra?

If I ever see a post from you, I always make sure to stop scrolling and read it.

[jake1720]

Not bad at all. This sounds a lot like me in my journey with pickup and such.

I can relate to the frame. Your frame gets insanely strong after constantly talking to super hot girls.

[Cobra]

I never thought I would go back to this thread. It's been almost 2 years for god's sakes. A lot has changed in my life. A LOT. That said, I'm at a critical point in my life where self improvement and development is more important to me than ever. I can honestly say I'VE REACHED THE NEXT LEVEL.

I stopped cold approaching a LONG time ago. A lot of the reasons were personal that I would rather not get into.

I also realized something about being a good husband and father. I need to spend more time at home and need to help out more at home. It doesn't matter if it's washing dishes, cooking or even taking care of the little children. Women need a break too and if you give it to them, you can easily buy a bit more freedom. It's just the way it works. That's not to say I do that all the time, but enough to let them know that you care about their well being. Many on the forum may debate this but I can guess it won't be a lot of husbands and fathers.

As some of you know, I got into a sales role (selling consulting services) and being an Accountant, I thought I would NOT last long. Not only has it been over 2 years of doing this but I'm now one of the top sales people in the company. You may even say I'm THE top sales person in the company as I recently won the firm's first coveted "President's Club." Sales people know what this is but it's basically given to the person that beat their sales goals the most. In addition to this the President of the firm asked me to be a "Brand Ambassador" which means having a blog promoting the brand on social media as well as promoting the brand by conducting seminars/speaking events/videos etc. The latter part will be tough and I will likely need some forum help.

I know there is some curiosity as to how I did it. First, it was to save myself from embarrassment. I was doing really bad around April of this year and management saw it. So instead of telling me to fuck off, they said: Cobra you're not a fuck up and I'll tell you why. It made a world of difference that this was the way they handled it. That was only like 5% but it was an important 5% that had nothing to do with me. What I did to prove them right (not wrong) was: hard work and resilience. The hard work resulted from having a goal and a plan as to which prospects to go after. The resilience came from going after them relentlessly. The athletes or other high performers in the forum may know this but you have to ALWAYS be thinking about what else you can do and FOCUS. However, that's not enough because you also need self confidence. That just means "fake it till you make it." KEEP GOING until you see success. This part was hard because I didn't see success for like 3 months. In a span of 2 months, I set and executed 60 meetings, when the normal amount for someone like me would have been 50. That was with one week of vacation that I fought for in the middle of that. I did more with less time than most people do.

So with all this, since I saw success, my reputation at work has changed and I haven't even realized it. While I was dicking around worrying about what people are thinking about me (even though I was busting my ass), it appears that a lot of them are thinking "why isn't he talking to me" OR "he thinks he's such a hotshot." I'm not saying this from a game perspective because I wasn't trying but some women have come up to me and asked me "How come you don't talk to me?" and "I know you judge me." My mind has been completely blown as I have fully realized what I have done. I realize something. I am now seen as something bigger than I even feel I am and trying to come to grips with it. At some level, I still feel like the scared little Indian kid that didn't know what the fuck he was doing BUT I know people are looking at me like "damn, look at this guy, I wish I could be like him." Maybe the difference between what I feel and who I really am is humility. I sure hope it is because I don't belittle anyone and don't think I'm above anyone. I was just a poor immigrant from India for fuck's sakes. That said, I know I can come across a bit arrogant because I'm intelligent, which brings me to my goals for next year.

My 2017 will be great. It will be even better than this year. I'll make sure of it. To continue my last thought, I need to be more humble. One of the problems I struggle with is that I'm smart and I speak in a very articulate way. That can intimidate people. So I intentionally will dumb things down sometimes. That's never good but there is a balance. That balance is what I hope will make me more genuine. I need better situational awareness and be able to read people better. I made great headway with it this year but I can be a lot better.

As Trump won the presidency, I won the President's club. It's so glorious that I don't even know how to feel or how to celebrate. I have never seen this much success. I will post my company's standings here. I appreciate ALL of the support the forum has provided and realize that you guys were a key part of all this success. So this post is dedicated to every single person I came in contact with this year. Happy New Year gents!

Edit: I also started a podcast with h3ltrsk3ltr that was successful (I think). We're bringing it back for 2017!

   

[Turnus]

Nice update. Sounds like your growth continues and you've reaped positive benefits as a result of it. Keep it up!

[Cobra]

Okay, men. I have a request for your thoughts. I have enough friends, mentors and resources to get an answer and top notch advice. However, I thought it may benefit others as well as give me broad perspective if I put it out here.

Some of you that know me well and are now friends of mine, know my situation and know that I have been through many downs in my past followed up by a LOT of recent ups, most of it professionally.

When I started on the forum, I was a glorified accountant that reviewed and updated SEC documents. Basically, a glorified desk job. I discovered the forum many years ago and through lots of trial and error, practiced game, being a better husband and father, being better in my career and having a better body physically. To some extent I have succeeded in all of these elements, some at a higher level than others.

However, as you know, it wasn't always so. I stopped connecting with people in general when I was growing up, some of it due to discrimination, rest of it in my own head. I was socially and culturally inept, combined with being in a backwards town. That changed when I joined the Navy, but when I got out, I regressed back to being that way to some extent while retaining the sheer drive that I developed while in the service. This transition, no surprisingly, doesn't erase the insecurities I developed when much younger. I have just been able to get over them when executing work, not getting rid of them completely. I will give you an example. There are many people that come into my firm and realize they can't cold call and ask for meetings or sales but they talk up a big game to get the job. I think I'm more petrified than them at cold calling BUT, I recognize it, get over it and make them.

So, I have started to become extremely successful. I got this huge award as you saw from an earlier post. I will also be getting my own website with the firm and become "available for speaking engagements." Thing is that I don't know how to take this success and at some level have started to take my foot off the gas pedal. That is never good. Last time I did this, I was on a crash course downwards. It's not like "I've arrived" or anything. Just that I'm on my way there. Making more adjustments to my life and professional behavior patterns will likely get me there but I don't know how to stay on track. I may not have believed this before, but now I do; I think if I continue to do well, I can likely start a business and develop it really well. Basically, there are moments that I feel that I'm just that skinny Indian immigrant kid that was scared as shit whereas others see me as something completely different. There are days that I feel extremely invigorated and confident and troll people. This has increased in frequency. I would want that to be a consistent thing, but I guess I'm saying, I know where I come from and it would be crazy for me to be that way the entire time. Maybe it's a good thing and maybe it's not.

I see myself on the way of getting complacent and losing in one sense. My question to those of you who are successful in life and in their career, especially those who got there from the very bottom and those who know are on their way there:

1) How do you stay on track?
2) How do you stay humble while also maintaining an air of confidence? I already walk around confident and dress impeccably including pocket squares.
3) How do you move yourself forward and make yourself stand out especially when you are developing a business or sales?
4) How do you relax so it motivates you to go to work in the morning? I was thinking of getting into Jiu Jitsu for example.

I'm really looking forward to your thoughts.

[Cobra]

Gosh fellas .. hoping for some thoughts. I cherish all of them.

[doc holliday]

Alright man I'll bite. i'll answer #2 first and do the others later because 2 is easy. At least for me. Staying humble and not turning into an overconfident egomainiac is easy because I never forget my failures. I remember how I started, how I fucked up and I understand that there is usually a thin line between success and failure. Since I deal with the human body, I understand that a lot of times, nature will do what it wants, not what I want it to do. I also have this mindset of "there but by the grace of god go I" I feel blessed everyday by the great life I have, with my great family and friends and I know that if I do stupid shit and act like I'm king of the world that things will inevitably even themselves out for the worse. So for me, I guess my numerous failures both present and past keep me in check.

[Itsbrokeagain]

I'm somewhat new here but been lurking for quite sometime, and this is probably one of the best zero-to-hero threads I've read in a while. What doc said is 100% right. I once turned into an overconfindent egomaniac where I could do no wrong and boy it bit me in the ass.

Never forget your failures and use them as something to reflect on and how you can do better on the next go-aorund.

#1 As far as staying on track, I guess I have a little OCD where if I'm focused on achieveing a goal/wealth/growth, I'll spend hours researching/reading/telling myself I can do it. I've been at rock bottom so there isn't anywhere to go but up. I'll do it so it pretty much becomes second nature.

#3 Wish I could shed more info as I started my own business (euro repair shop for Benz/bmw/Porsche etc) but it consumed my life. Two cells, long hours of work and a girl who eventually couldn't take me not being around no matter how many surprise vacations we went on. But I networked hard, went to a lot of shows to get my name out there, worked on some popular rides and it kinda snowballed from there. Today I'm in a more stable position in a public utility, but I still wrench on the side with a select few clientele who respect my advice and suggestions. Recommending a route to go on a big dollar build with customers that act like some of the threads I've seen on here (the ones were the OP asks for advice, you guys all give it to him and he ignores it/rationalizes/hamsters it away) becomes stressful and time-wasting as cutting corners to save a dollar ends up with 10 spent on the back end and many hours lost. Not sure if you get my drift.

#4, I'll prolly get flamed hard for this, but gym/CrossFit is what I look forward to every afternoon. I've been with the same spot for almost 5 years now and my coach is one of the oldest in the sport (10 years under his belt doing it). While we have programmed squat/bench/deadlift cycles, I still spend time doing my own sets/cycles after class or before. It's a great way to really leave it all on the floor and whatever frustrations I've had are usually gone and I feel 1000 times better.

That and usually a great cup of coffee usually gets me fired up enough to take on anything.

[Cobra]

Very much appreciate your responses and certainly welcome more. Thoughts below.

(02-10-2017 10:46 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

Alright man I'll bite. i'll answer #2 first and do the others later because 2 is easy. At least for me. Staying humble and not turning into an overconfident egomainiac is easy because I never forget my failures. I remember how I started, how I fucked up and I understand that there is usually a thin line between success and failure. Since I deal with the human body, I understand that a lot of times, nature will do what it wants, not what I want it to do. I also have this mindset of "there but by the grace of god go I" I feel blessed everyday by the great life I have, with my great family and friends and I know that if I do stupid shit and act like I'm king of the world that things will inevitably even themselves out for the worse. So for me, I guess my numerous failures both present and past keep me in check.

Yes, I know what you mean. I realize that I'm not special just because I was the top salesman last year. I still need to do the exact same thing to keep it moving. I don't get to rest.

To keep it fun, I'm going to be on the phone over the next few days with one of my co-workers. She was a wall street person and is very aggressive. So that should be some great friendly competition.

Additionally, as far as humbling myself, I went to a beginner's BJJ class yesterday.

(02-13-2017 12:35 PM)Itsbrokeagain Wrote:  

I'm somewhat new here but been lurking for quite sometime, and this is probably one of the best zero-to-hero threads I've read in a while. What doc said is 100% right. I once turned into an overconfindent egomaniac where I could do no wrong and boy it bit me in the ass.

Never forget your failures and use them as something to reflect on and how you can do better on the next go-aorund.

#1 As far as staying on track, I guess I have a little OCD where if I'm focused on achieveing a goal/wealth/growth, I'll spend hours researching/reading/telling myself I can do it. I've been at rock bottom so there isn't anywhere to go but up. I'll do it so it pretty much becomes second nature.

#3 Wish I could shed more info as I started my own business (euro repair shop for Benz/bmw/Porsche etc) but it consumed my life. Two cells, long hours of work and a girl who eventually couldn't take me not being around no matter how many surprise vacations we went on. But I networked hard, went to a lot of shows to get my name out there, worked on some popular rides and it kinda snowballed from there. Today I'm in a more stable position in a public utility, but I still wrench on the side with a select few clientele who respect my advice and suggestions. Recommending a route to go on a big dollar build with customers that act like some of the threads I've seen on here (the ones were the OP asks for advice, you guys all give it to him and he ignores it/rationalizes/hamsters it away) becomes stressful and time-wasting as cutting corners to save a dollar ends up with 10 spent on the back end and many hours lost. Not sure if you get my drift.

#4, I'll prolly get flamed hard for this, but gym/CrossFit is what I look forward to every afternoon. I've been with the same spot for almost 5 years now and my coach is one of the oldest in the sport (10 years under his belt doing it). While we have programmed squat/bench/deadlift cycles, I still spend time doing my own sets/cycles after class or before. It's a great way to really leave it all on the floor and whatever frustrations I've had are usually gone and I feel 1000 times better.

That and usually a great cup of coffee usually gets me fired up enough to take on anything.

I've been at Rock Bottom too, and I'll never go back. It is tough to get deep into what you like but having a job like I do keeps me sane. Funny thing is that I'm the least stressed I have ever been in my life. I thought sales was supposed to be stressful but it's not, at least to me. I enjoy it, have fun with the people I work with and learn a lot about listening and observing people.

To piggy back off of the above on fitness, I'm lucky. I have a co-worker who just started that is a highly passionate and very good at BJJ. He competes and also teaches classes. I was grateful to have him take me to his gym just to show me how it works. I'm sore as hell today but having my ass handed to me made me realize that this will continue to keep my ego in check. So, if someone flames you, I will counter-flame them to the point where they will be asking for a ban.

[doc holliday]

So #1, Staying on track. The way I do it is that I simply have to, I have no choice. I look at it like I have an ax murderer chasing me and I know if I stop running, it will be all over for me. Fortunately with kids, child support, alimony and business loans, I have plenty of axe murderers chasing me so staying on track is a necessity not a choice and therefore very easy for me to do. Now in 10 years or so when I don't have these ax murderers chasing me I may lose track but I doubt it. I guess you have to find your own boogie man to keep you running on the track.

[greekgod]

Since we've both played in the same realm, I'll help where I can.

2) How do you stay humble while also maintaining an air of confidence?

Grounded competence exudes confidence. You believe and know you are providing your clients value so its just a matter of execution. The sizzle gets the attention, the steak gets you paid.

3) How do you move yourself forward and make yourself stand out especially when you are developing a business or sales?

Quality over quantity baby. 10-20 well developed relationships will keep you very busy and offer more opportunity than you can close. Hell, I've seen people with 2-5 relationships crush it and have nonstop work. So show you give a shit, it will pay you back.

Also, for your mental sanity and well being in the business, some clients you just won't mesh with. Might be tons of potential deals there but they are too finicky or have a lack of skin in the game, whatever it is, you can tell. Thats ok. Better to recognize this and focus on who you work well with. The reality of sunk costs is so big in that business.

4) How do you relax so it motivates you to go to work in the morning? I was thinking of getting into Jiu Jitsu for example.

Working out is paramount to keeping the stress at bay. Busts the shit right up. It also keeps you high energy and shakes off the cobwebs. Compound lifts, aerobic movements, basically anything that really gets the blood pumping is key. Sales can, at times, wear you out. 3-6 hours a week of exercise allows you to forget those challenges and take care of your health both physically and mentally. Its a force multiplier. I think exercise+at least one other consistent weekly hobby is necessary. Eyes on the prize though.

In terms of staying on track (#1) thats case by case but why not figure out some goals from your speaking engagements. Tangible revenue results derived from investing your time there? Shit maybe even your company could hold a BBJ inspired self defense class for female clients down the road. All in good fun.

Sounds like things are trending in a very positive direction.

[doc holliday]

(02-16-2017 07:56 PM)greekgod Wrote:  

Since we've both played in the same realm, I'll help where I can.

2) How do you stay humble while also maintaining an air of confidence?

Grounded competence exudes confidence. You believe and know you are providing your clients value so its just a matter of execution. The sizzle gets the attention, the steak gets you paid.

3) How do you move yourself forward and make yourself stand out especially when you are developing a business or sales?

Quality over quantity baby. 10-20 well developed relationships will keep you very busy and offer more opportunity than you can close. Hell, I've seen people with 2-5 relationships crush it and have nonstop work. So show you give a shit, it will pay you back.

Also, for your mental sanity and well being in the business, some clients you just won't mesh with. Might be tons of potential deals there but they are too finicky or have a lack of skin in the game, whatever it is, you can tell. Thats ok. Better to recognize this and focus on who you work well with. The reality of sunk costs is so big in that business.

4) How do you relax so it motivates you to go to work in the morning? I was thinking of getting into Jiu Jitsu for example.

Working out is paramount to keeping the stress at bay. Busts the shit right up. It also keeps you high energy and shakes off the cobwebs. Compound lifts, aerobic movements, basically anything that really gets the blood pumping is key. Sales can, at times, wear you out. 3-6 hours a week of exercise allows you to forget those challenges and take care of your health both physically and mentally. Its a force multiplier. I think exercise+at least one other consistent weekly hobby is necessary. Eyes on the prize though.

In terms of staying on track (#1) thats case by case but why not figure out some goals from your speaking engagements. Tangible revenue results derived from investing your time there? Shit maybe even your company could hold a BBJ inspired self defense class for female clients down the road. All in good fun.

Sounds like things are trending in a very positive direction.

Greek, miss you man. You coming back anytime soon?

[Cobra]

Fellas,

I wanted to mention this in this thread. I just got offered ownership/equity in my company. It was offered to only a select few individuals. Hard work pays off.

Thanks to the forum, its advice and relationships in the form of friendships I built with many awesome guys here that made it happen.

Of course, none of this may have been possible if it wasn't for Roosh!

I will provide further updates later!

[Cobra]

So.. gents. Here's what is going on. The company has an aggressive growth plan over the next 4 - 5 years. Essentially, I'm assuming the founding investors want a return but the management sees much more opportunity to grow. Reason being, we were one of the fastest growing companies in the city for the last 3 years based on a well known and read business publication.

I'm in the division that contributes between 50 - 60% of the firm's total revenue. So I'm one of the 3 top business developers in the group, but alternatively even for the firm. I've only been in this business for 3+ years. Before that, as you all know, I was in the Finance/Accounting world.

When I first got in here, I remember, I used to make about 40 - 50 solid quality cold calls a day. I leveraged my network but those guys didn't give me much business. At that time, I used to be very much into the game and the "red pill." So there were times when I got out of work and did a solid 5 day approaches on the street or a little night game with the local tribe members. A bunch of that is forever memorialized in the approach thread.

About a year in, I started doing fine and was on track, but I started getting a little too crazy. My Practice Director even told me once "Cobra, stop running for Mayor," alluding to my casual friendliness around the office, especially with the women. A few months later, my book of business fell apart. So bad that I considered heavily the prospect of going back into Accounting. I called my boss, as I noted before, very red pilled Irish woman that is one of the best in this business. She pulled over and said "you'll be fine. let's give it 90 days and if you don't do well, we'll talk about the next step; but until then, you will have to bust your ass." Bust my ass, I did. I counted every single meeting, documented every single followup, scheduled myself so precisely that I got everything done. In a few months, my book of business exploded and I made President's Club. Stories of that are already in this thread.

The last year or so, I've been a bit more at ease, working on a few clients that have given me lots of repeat business. It has worked out fine and I have continued to bring in lots of revenue. However, I can't get past a certain point. I think I lost a bit of drive here and there. I gave up gaming women because I had to face reality. I'm going to go ahead and say it: I got caught! It was excruciating and maybe a story for another thread or.. maybe not. I think I have honestly been operating at about 50% capacity and still doing well.

Fast forward to present day, investors come in and want to invest. About a week ago, the President pulls me aside and wants me to be part of the Ownership team and offers me shares. So technically, I'm a Management Member (legal term) for an LLC but theoretically the same as a partner or owner. There is a vesting period of course, but given the track record of the firm and my confidence in our ability to succeed, I think they picked the right person to be on that team of leaders. Don't you think so?

I was a little skinny Indian kid that couldn't even raise his voice, fight or have a girlfriend. I slowly but surely, with the help of many people on this forum, in conjunction with improving my game, also improved my lifestyle. I have many people to thank:

- Starting foremost with my old school Indian parents, who never did anything special except bust their ass and put me and my sister through every difficult scenario.
- Then my degenerate cousin who at a very young age amplified my insecurities and forced me to face them head on. (I have still decided to build a relationship back with him. I confronted him a few months ago. He was apologetic and we're moving forward.)
- This very forum, the members of which became my outlet to release my honesty, and the few members who I had a chance to meet and become friends with. Special shoutout to Dantes, Vinman, Octavian, MDP, Snowplow, H3ltrSk3ltr, Lothario, doc holliday, Suits (never met but encouraged me to be more vocal on the forum), Fortis, and kaotic (who I have also never met, but continues to set a good example for a young brown dude who swims in hot pussy consistently). You guys have always given me perspective that I otherwise would have never had. I also don't want to forget all of the other forum members I have met who enhanced my life extensively.
- My company and its management which respects me and gave me a platform to discover my own inner strengths without pushing their agenda. Let's face it; they have one but they never let that impede my growth.
- My family, including my kids. They have helped me through all of this and been patient with my long hours at work.
- My wife, who has forgiven me for many indiscretions and aggressive behavior at times.

So here I am. My next goal will be to figure out how to push my way into becoming a known force in this business. Stay tuned my friends. This will all be announced soon publicly and we likely will have a press release at some point. Given all the market activity around here, I hope confidentiality won't be an issue.

So here's what I need from you next: Let's celebrate. If I PM or text you, we need to grab a drink. If you think you should buy me one, also cool. PM me, I'll figure out a way. I'm likely going to see some friends and family all across the nation. I'll be in DC next month and also NYC if I can help it.

[doc holliday]

So when's the movie coming out? And the title of the movie? I vote for Cobra Got His Groove Back. Most importantly, who'll play the part of Cobra? We need some Bollywood stud to do this, simps like Kal Penn or cough,cough,gag,gag Aziz Ansari won't work.

[vinman]

(03-17-2018 04:02 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

So when's the movie coming out? And the title of the movie? I vote for Cobra Got His Groove Back. Most importantly, who'll play the part of Cobra? We need some Bollywood stud to do this, simps like Kal Penn or cough,cough,gag,gag Aziz Ansari won't work.

We want a swarthy Colin Farrel type to play Cobra. And he's gotta have that Indian action hero mustache.

[doc holliday]

Actually I thought of another movie title; The Rise of the Cobra. Still working on the lead actor but swarthy is good. Swarthy is always good.

[kaotic]

Some solid shit in here, I already congratulated you, but this deserve it more than once dude!

Stoked for your bro!

[Krimson Killa]

Honestly, it was probably for the best that you got caught fucking around. I'd personally rather not get laid than my life dishonestly and go back on my word to the woman I married. This isn't meant to be disrespectful to you Cobra or to anyone else here, I've cheated plenty in my time, but being dishonest is easily my biggest regret in life. Glad to see you've learned that your integrity is worth more than pussy and that you're going to dedicate yourself to professional success and fitness.