[PharaohRa]

Women need to go back to the kitchen, and fast. If we can't do it in a civilized manner, then White Sharia it is!

[Genghis Khan]

(03-23-2018 12:34 PM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  

(03-20-2018 07:22 AM)heavy Wrote:  

To which I add, we shouldn't push people into areas they aren't terribly interested.

I am in my late 40s. At 19 I went to an engineering college. The ratio of men to women previous to me being there was 10:1 or greater for undergrads. The year I went in was the year there was a HUGE push to get 'more women into engineering': Heavy recruitment with a degree of affirmative action. The ratio was closer to 5:1 my freshman year.

The results were not pretty. Two examples that were typical:

A woman I shared an apartment with (not a GF) was one of those 'recruited'. In her mind, it was her "duty" to 'girl power' to get a degree in STEM. That mind seed was planted of course by the feminists that pushed this nonsense. Now this woman was not dumb by any means. She was a competent student. However, she was miserable. She kept changing her major (mechanical, civil, chemical) to find SOMETHING in engineering that she didn't hate doing. She eventually dropped out, heavily in debt (despite generous financial 'women in engineering' grants). Worse, she wasted three years of her life.

A second example is a woman I unfortunately got paired with for a design project in senior year. This chick couldn't find her own over-sized ass with the aid of a flashlight, a hunting dog, and an AWAC. She got to where she was because she was good at memorizing, then regurgitating data on tests. In reality, she understood nothing.

Our design project required tackling an issue that wasn't conveniently spelled out in a text book. She was useless and should have been failed out. Instead, she got hired by the Cadillac division of General Motors; a job position that was ONLY to be reserved for the top 5% of any class. Being a woman and a minority, she was hired despite having empty space between the ears.

By my senior year, the ratio of men to women was back up near 10:1 due to attrition of the women. The ones that made it through all had jobs waiting for them, despite a horrible job market for engineering grads at the time.

My engineering college pulled out new posters for recruitment. For my own department, they showed 4 women and 2 men (mix of undergrad/grad students). In reality, my department is closer to 80% men, 20% women (the top engineering schools typically have slightly better ratios - mostly because they get so many applicants compared to how many they accept, they select a larger portion of women).

Honestly, I find it fucking cruel to falsely represent our departments like that - it makes it seem like women can be engineers just as well as men, when in reality only a minority of women can. Some women are going to come in, thinking our department is dominated by women, and then be surprised they're outnumbered 4-to-1. What's worse is they'll think they're stupid for not being able to compete with men. After all, the posters are supposed to show the top students, and if 4 out of 6 students are women, wow, women must be beating men by a mile. Nope!

[Hell_Is_Like_Newark]

(03-26-2018 01:39 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

Honestly, I find it fucking cruel to falsely represent our departments like that - it makes it seem like women can be engineers just as well as men, when in reality only a minority of women can.

Currently I work with a recent female engineering grad. She is one of the 'rarities': extremely analytical and so far has been very good on her assignments.

Here is the thing about her: She is into science fiction / fantasy, read science fiction comic books as a kid, played Dungeons and Dragons as a kid. Basically, this is a girl who is equipped with a typical male brain you would find in geeky kid (which a fair amount go into STEM). When I work with her, I feel like I am working with someone who is mentally a dude (note: she isn't a dyke).

In the past, I read some articles on male / female brain differences. One theory is that some female fetuses get blasted with elevated levels of testosterone, which changed the brain wiring. The women who result from such pregnancies tend to be tomboys and / or pursue much more male orientated fields (think Madam Currie as a possible example).

The elevated T was more common in non-identical twin pregnancies where one of the fetuses is male. These type of pregnancies became a lot more common with the advent of IVF (2 embryos are often implanted at once).

[Parlay44]

I don’t care what anyone says. Women never really commit to their work. That’s why things like this happen.

If they fail at something it never affects their reputation. They can always say fuck it and pop out some welfare babies and ride the government gravy train.

A man however is forever dependent on and protective of his professional reputation. We can’t afford to make huge mistakes like this.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Good vid explaining the reason for collapse - there seem to have been minor problems with the construction, though it's unclear at this stage whether the design is at fault or the materials did not hold up.

I think that it was simply a shitty design that is too easy to fuck up and we don't even know the long-term effects either.

What if the bridge would have fallen apart 5 years down the line?

[Duke Castile]

I just got through hanging out with a tight little 21 yr old at her dorm at this school.

Amazing how uninterested in this event those kids are.

[oilbreh]

(03-27-2018 09:39 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Good vid explaining the reason for collapse - there seem to have been minor problems with the construction, though it's unclear at this stage whether the design is at fault or the materials did not hold up.

I think that it was simply a shitty design that is too easy to fuck up and we don't even know the long-term effects either.

What if the bridge would have fallen apart 5 years down the line?

This is what I said earlier. It was an experimental design - and by that I mean most people involved have not built at least ten of these. Post tensioning is not that common, let alone moving it around. The tensioning guys should have known about engineering strain aka the diameter starts to thing out on a tensioned rod before it fails. Due to the break down of communication due to subcontracting and further subcontracting everything on these projects, if its not something that has done a thousand times before turns into a shit show.

[Genghis Khan]

What I find most fascinating: that this actually happened in the US.

Quote:

The tensioning guys should have known about engineering strain aka the diameter starts to thing out on a tensioned rod before it fails.

(Oilbreh's comments)

This may be very, very preliminary and I may be completely wrong, but this could be an early sign of things to come: worsening quality control of engineering projects.

Numerous reasons abound:

* more women in engineering field

* quality of engineers dropping - one of my professors in undergrad showed me a plot (about a decade ago) - average score on test versus year. He'd taught the same course for 3 decades, administering basically the same tests over and over again. The average score was dropping, slowly, but surely

* loss of incentives for engineers to do quality work - slightly hard to focus full-time on job when you also have to spend time on self-improvement and game

* cannibalization of engineering fields - name of the game today is computer science/AI/machine learning/etc. What this implies (from my experience) is that a lot of quality kids are now in CompSci majors instead of more traditional engineering fields such as civil engineering

It's probably a combo of these fours, and more. And there's probably also some feedback loop, e.g.:

fewer people going into engineering in general --> fewer students in Civil Engineering --> departments have to make classes easier to attract more students --> attract more women --> being an engineer doesn't make you an attractive man to women (hypergamy always looking for something better than her) --> fewer people going into engineering in general, and so forth

I would not be surprised, though I hope I'm wrong, to see more engineering failures in the future. This could range from "simple" projects such as bridges to chemical industry disasters to Intel chips failing, etc.

[PapayaTapper]

1st Lawsuit
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...438179002/

2nd Lawsuit
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/04/02/law...-survivor/

3rd Lawsuit
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/04/03/fam...iles-suit/



Itll be interesting to see who gets pegged (pun intended) for this

[kamoz]

(03-28-2018 01:40 AM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

What I find most fascinating: that this actually happened in the US.

Quote:

The tensioning guys should have known about engineering strain aka the diameter starts to thing out on a tensioned rod before it fails.

(Oilbreh's comments)

This may be very, very preliminary and I may be completely wrong, but this could be an early sign of things to come: worsening quality control of engineering projects.

Numerous reasons abound:

* more women in engineering field

* quality of engineers dropping - one of my professors in undergrad showed me a plot (about a decade ago) - average score on test versus year. He'd taught the same course for 3 decades, administering basically the same tests over and over again. The average score was dropping, slowly, but surely

* loss of incentives for engineers to do quality work - slightly hard to focus full-time on job when you also have to spend time on self-improvement and game

* cannibalization of engineering fields - name of the game today is computer science/AI/machine learning/etc. What this implies (from my experience) is that a lot of quality kids are now in CompSci majors instead of more traditional engineering fields such as civil engineering

It's probably a combo of these fours, and more. And there's probably also some feedback loop, e.g.:

fewer people going into engineering in general --> fewer students in Civil Engineering --> departments have to make classes easier to attract more students --> attract more women --> being an engineer doesn't make you an attractive man to women (hypergamy always looking for something better than her) --> fewer people going into engineering in general, and so forth

I would not be surprised, though I hope I'm wrong, to see more engineering failures in the future. This could range from "simple" projects such as bridges to chemical industry disasters to Intel chips failing, etc.

thread-61124.html

Quote:

The last couple years at that company also consisted of me working on high priority new product development. This resulted in challenging work and lots of overtime which included mostly 60 hour weeks minimum, weekends, and even working nights for certain periods of time in order to provide 24/7 engineering coverage at peak times in the program. Deadlines set by management were completely unrealistic and never met, but still pushed nonetheless. This is another reason why you see many products from ‘cutting edge’ companies today that are shitty or even outright ‘exploding’….unrealistic deadlines are set, employees are worked to the limit under threat of losing their job, and in many cases they’re completely inexperienced and doing what they’re doing for the first time.

[Genghis Khan]

^ There are a few small companies in the US who specializes in engineering failure analysis.

One company I know is expanding massively, always recruiting too. That's going to be a "safe" job for a long time - as long as engineering quality drops, and projects go awry, they'll have a job.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-12-2018 06:59 PM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

^ There are a few small companies in the US who specializes in engineering failure analysis.

One company I know is expanding massively, always recruiting too. That's going to be a "safe" job for a long time - as long as engineering quality drops, and projects go awry, they'll have a job.

One day not long from now you there will be a dropbox option labelled "misogyny" under the cause heading. The first guy to question it will be fired, and the rest will get the message.

[Genghis Khan]

The West is moving towards its decline. Such is life. Every civilization must meet its end one day. That the West dies by misogny. might as well enjoy it for what it is.

So be it.