[Matta]

Ok guys.

Ive been looking at pick up for around 10 years. I started with Mystery Method. Then RSD.

Mystery method did work, As i did got laid for the first time in my life at 22 years old, Using mystery method. So i know Game is real, It works.

Anyway i just want to make a General Life situation im currently in.
Heres my life situation.

-34 years old
-Live in a Big Metro City Area(Kinda like NYC)
-Have my own place (Condo) and i got a Car.
-Currently work in Construction as an electrician
-No kids, Never married

1.Theres 2 local Bars near my place. 1 is older people, 1 is 22 to 30 years old people. I prefer the second one, Theres young girls there. its really crowded on Friday and saturday night.

2.I live 5 Minute away from the second bar.

Im also on Tinder and online dating site. On tinder i got some matches with young girls 22 too 25 years old. BUT they dont respond to my txt, they just stay matches. And not reply from them. I sent txt, And they dont anwers.

I would like to pull girls from the second bar and take them back to my place to fuck. Its 5 minute away from this place.

Im interested in 22 to 25 years old girls.

Problem is i feel creepy trying to game young girls. I dont know why, i guess social conditionning make me feel that way, I feel creepy.

What would you do in my situation? Any help is appreciated.

[MongolianAbroad]

You've got to read the relevant threads.

[ms224]

Social conditioning, get it out of your system.

No 34 year old is going to give you a big family btw.

Welcome to the forum, btw feel free to contribute.

[sch]

That's what I do, mostly. For some chicks it's weird, others love it and enjoy it.

18-20 is weird, so I don't go for that age range, and 25+ is not my type.

[TooFineAPoint]

The only difference between gaming 22-25 year olds as a mid-late 30s man, and gaming girls your age...

... is that the 22-25 year olds are hotter.

Don't worry about it.

[Akwesi]

Girls under 25 are in their prime fertilitywise. Being champions of evolution, we are descendants of men who recognized the suitability of such women for mating, and thus we, too, are drawn to their beauty, their soft skin, their luscious hair, and their perfectly lubricated pussies. Evolution doesn't lie, so go out there and honor your ancestors by pounding some young poon.

[Montrose]

I’m approaching 50 and I date 22-25, mostly on Dating sites (pretending I’m 36 or so) but also in day game. Occasionally when I meet a girl, she looks like she’s creeped out, but it’s pretty rare. You have to be confident about your age and most girls won’t care. Change your age on Tinder to 29 and improve your text game.

[H1N1]

Read this excellent thread by the inimitable Lizard, and the superb post by Roosh that inspired it, banish 'creepy' from your vocabulary, and embrace the state of lechery that is your birthright as a healthy and well adjusted adult male.

thread-28399.html

I am 28, fucking a number of extremely luscious sub-20 year old girls, and revelling in the first blush of righteous lechery and it's wonderfully sweet fruits. Far from feeling creepy, I feel I am in the very early stages of having grown into what I was destined to be. Until now, my youthful complexion and boyish charms have kept me in lock-step with the homogenous mass of youth. I finally have attained that nascent maturity and knowingness that one can start to wear on one's skin (without any deterioration of the epidermis), that allows one to separate, and settle in to the lecher's life with great joy and abandonment. Far from discouraging younger girls, it has drawn them in like never before, and I feel finally old enough to begin on a long and happy season with the 18-20 year olds. Those that would criticise or comment only serve to increase my relish at the intense physical pleasures which I know and they deny themselves, and help me revel even more in my very early incorrigibility.

[treypound]

I have found it somewhat easier to game girls in their mid 20s (24-28) than girls my age (35). I also of course find them more attractive. There are countless threads you can read on here about gaming 20 somethings (pros and cons), but with your current dynamic, take advantage of the location and free time you have.

[Teedub]

(03-11-2018 08:01 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

Read this excellent thread by the inimitable Lizard, and the superb post by Roosh that inspired it, banish 'creepy' from your vocabulary, and embrace the state of lechery that is your birthright as a healthy and well adjusted adult male.

thread-28399.html

I am 28, fucking a number of extremely luscious sub-20 year old girls, and revelling in the first blush of righteous lechery and it's wonderfully sweet fruits. Far from feeling creepy, I feel I am in the very early stages of having grown into what I was destined to be. Until now, my youthful complexion and boyish charms have kept me in lock-step with the homogenous mass of youth. I finally have attained that nascent maturity and knowingness that one can start to wear on one's skin (without any deterioration of the epidermis), that allows one to separate, and settle in to the lecher's life with great joy and abandonment. Far from discouraging younger girls, it has drawn them in like never before, and I feel finally old enough to begin on a long and happy season with the 18-20 year olds. Those that would criticise or comment only serve to increase my relish at the intense physical pleasures which I know and they deny themselves, and help me revel even more in my very early incorrigibility.

Wow, I always assumed you were 40+ based on the way you write and such. Anyway, what's your method of snare, online or real life game? I'm a few years older than you and could do with some 18 year olds myself

P.S Wonderfully well-written post.

[H1N1]

(03-11-2018 03:06 PM)Teedub Wrote:  

(03-11-2018 08:01 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  

Read this excellent thread by the inimitable Lizard, and the superb post by Roosh that inspired it, banish 'creepy' from your vocabulary, and embrace the state of lechery that is your birthright as a healthy and well adjusted adult male.

thread-28399.html

I am 28, fucking a number of extremely luscious sub-20 year old girls, and revelling in the first blush of righteous lechery and it's wonderfully sweet fruits. Far from feeling creepy, I feel I am in the very early stages of having grown into what I was destined to be. Until now, my youthful complexion and boyish charms have kept me in lock-step with the homogenous mass of youth. I finally have attained that nascent maturity and knowingness that one can start to wear on one's skin (without any deterioration of the epidermis), that allows one to separate, and settle in to the lecher's life with great joy and abandonment. Far from discouraging younger girls, it has drawn them in like never before, and I feel finally old enough to begin on a long and happy season with the 18-20 year olds. Those that would criticise or comment only serve to increase my relish at the intense physical pleasures which I know and they deny themselves, and help me revel even more in my very early incorrigibility.

Wow, I always assumed you were 40+ based on the way you write and such. Anyway, what's your method of snare, online or real life game? I'm a few years older than you and could do with some 18 year olds myself

P.S Wonderfully well-written post.

That's a tremendous compliment that you should think so, Teedub, thank you.

I am currently a barman in a popular bar/club frequented by a lot of 18 - 21 year olds. It's honestly not a very difficult environment for me to pull in. Since girls have the opportunity to engage me, they make it very easy.

Last night, three girls were stood at the bar at the end of the evening, right next to the very luscious 19 year old I am fucking (not friends of hers). I wasn't serving any of them, and was in fact just chilling further down the bar with some San Pellegrino at the end of a long shift. They weren't aware that I was fucking the girl next to them. They made eye contact with me, and started performing group fellatio on a bottle of Corona and beckoning me over. They were a group of 5s and 6s, and weren't sufficiently alluring either individually or collectively for me to take any steps that might complicate life for me, as I am already having to be von Clauswitz to manage the girls I have on the go as it is. Eventually, one of them shouted, 'for fucks sake, we all want to fuck you' at me, across two barmaids and a relatively busy bar.

I say this not to brag, but to illustrate that when I flirt a bit with a girl I'm serving, make her laugh, then tell her she's cute and she should give me her number, things go fairly smoothly without any need for a great deal of game. I'm in the right place, fortunate to have the right look, and actually have to do relatively little to bag these girls other than be bold enough to make my intent clear.

In fact, I can pretty much break most rules and as long as I am confident, smile and make eye contact, it seems pretty hard to fuck it up. I was catching shit from a bunch of girls and guys at the bar for flirting with a very nice blonde girl on Friday night. I brought them into the conversation, saying, 'don't you think she is beautiful?' when they agreed that she was, I said, 'exactly, wouldn't you try to get her number if you had an opportunity?', again they agreed, and then I turned to her and said 'there you go, I think you're beautiful and I'd like your number'. I wouldn't have been quite as brazen usually, but they put me on the spot. Anyway, I got her number and she made a point of coming and finding me at the end of the evening to give me a kiss.

Edit: And to answer your question, I don't use online game. I find it particularly hateful to exchange long text conversations with girls I've not met, or indeed go on blind dates with them - the whole thing is joyless and unrewarding for me, so I've let it go. I also find that all the girls I'm enjoying success with, who are pretty attractive, aren't using it - so essentially it is a wholly negative time investment for me based on the girls I want and can be bothered to spend time with. I also find it impossible to convey my best attributes and most attractive mannerisms through online game. It doesn't play to my strengths.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

I am over 40 and my preferred age range is 18-19. Any sane man is instinctively the same.

Also I met enough high-IQ cultured 19yo girls who read Tolstoi, listened to operas and knew more about theater than I would ever do, that I know that most stupid cunts won't be wiser by age 29 or 39.

Youth is power and king with women. Some 20-25% of 18-25 girls will be into much older man, so long as the guy is still bangable - low body fat, some muscles, Game, self-confidence.

OP - your age gap. That is nothing. Say you are 29 and get the full 100% of range. There is a lot of shaming towards older men chasing younger women. Know that this is just feminism and our fem-centric society talking. The very older harpies did not mind fucking men in their 40s when they were 19. Now as they are 39, they are flabbergasted and are holding their pearls in disgust.

Give me a break missy.

[Mig Picante]

Yep, the women that don't like you doing it are the ones wishing you were paying them some attention.
Any game-aware woman with SMV will understand too as they have probably done themselves.

Go for it. 35 banged and dated a 23yo late last year.
I went out a couple of times and noticed people looked at us. You will feel power. Carry yourself with confidence, it's natural.

[sterling_archer]

This is a good thread to ask what is the general view on age gap in Western countries? I mean real view, not media/feminism bias.
To share some examples from Croatia; here it's looked as a bit weird, but nobody will make a huge deal from it. That being said guys over 40 are immediately disqualified here when targeting girls below in early 20s or below for example. Exceptions are obvious high value status coupled with excellent Game. But just Game by itself, not at all enough. Guys in their 30s can still game below 25 and even 18/19 year olds with almost no problem, but there is that "a bit weird" stigma going on.

[jselysianeagle]

(03-10-2018 10:51 PM)Matta Wrote:  

Problem is i feel creepy trying to game young girls. I dont know why, i guess social conditionning make me feel that way, I feel creepy.

What would you do in my situation? Any help is appreciated.

Paul Walker was 40 and dating a 16 or 17 yr old girl at the time of his death... it's quite natural to be attracted to women < 25, biologically that is the age range during which they're at their absolute peak. There's a reason the most sought after women at strip clubs, escort sites etc. are in this age bracket.

Anyway, the important thing isn't your age, but what you can pass for. If you can pass for, say, late 20s, you can still easily target girls in their early 20s. I've known many guys that were able to pull this off over the years.

That said, the absolute quickest and easiest way for you to hook up with girls < 25 at your age or older would be to head to SEA/LatAm/possibly EE (heck, even parts of Africa) where your exoticism/foreigner value will be sought after highly enough to offset or counter any inhibitions these girls might have surrounding your age.

If you can't go abroad, then find a way to be around these girls as much as possible - classes at your local college, social sports leagues etc.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

One of my former realizations that brought this home was when I was 29 and was dating a hot HB8 19 year old girl.

Later it turned out that her previous "boyfriend" who was rich, Alpha, short, but extremely self-confident was 43 while she was 18. He was also slightly overweight and picked her up opening the window of his car and hollering something out. In addition he admitted that he went through 5-10 new girls per month and he had a wife and 2 older kids.

So she was just his plate for 6 months where he met her ever less often and dropped everything to go meet him. Then she ended the relationship with me, because she still could not forget that guy. (while he still treated her ass like a remote side-piece that he saw less and less)

And she wasn't some dumb broad raised by an insecure father. In fact her dad was a macho-cop and she studied economics while being well-behaved. The other guy just swept her off her feet during the day like some uglier and older version of Christian Grey.

Most women nowadays have this mental image and cut-off of 40, partly because of the feminist conditioning and partly because of the way most 40+ year olds look like.

However when they meet a guy who breaks those preconceived notions, then suddenly it's all forgotten even if he is 51+:



That is why I personally don't care too much of what women say. The only thing that gets a bit tougher and which I experienced is in night-club situations approaching groups. Then you are going to have to deal with group dynamics and girls being careful about what her friends think.

But most night clubs are bad for seduction now anyway unless you have a specific kind of club where there are lots of older richer guys looking for hot young women and vice versa. Otherwise hollering something out of your car on the street is as good as anything else.

[blacknwhitespade]

(03-14-2018 01:15 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

That said, the absolute quickest and easiest way for you to hook up with girls < 25 at your age or older would be to head to SEA/LatAm/possibly EE (heck, even parts of Africa) where your exoticism/foreigner value will be sought after highly enough to offset or counter any inhibitions these girls might have surrounding your age.

Women in foreign countries don't just date older American men because of the exotic factor, they actually often prefer a man who is a good 10+ years older. It's seen as desirable... that the man is older, wiser, can provide wisdom, leadership, and resources. Of course, this instinct lies deep in American birds, but a chain reaction of factors blocks many of them from following up on these urges.

As a 36 year old man who can pass for being in the twenties, I get attention from many young 20something Americans, but I've gotten the "how old are you" probe once conversation advances...