[Mercenary]

(03-16-2018 02:53 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

When people say the Japanese language is vague, that's not totally true. It's just that the Japanese, for various reasons, typically talk vaguely, depending on the situation.

This is very true.
Trying to figure out meaning and intentions in Japan is very difficult sometimes. Even for the Japanese between themselves.

Everything is indirect.

Funny example of this:

In most shops in Japan at the cash register there is always small tray on the counter where you are supposed to put your cash or credit card when paying for things.

Your money or card is never supposed to be handed directly to the person taking payment. It has to go from your hand into the tray first, and then the person picks it up from the tray. Then they give you your change (or give you back your card) by putting it back in the tray and only then do you pick it up.

That way money or funds are never exchanged directly.

[sterling_archer]

^I knew that. It's these small thing that makes particular country more charming or not. This is also a good place to ask about supposed Japanese hidden opinions. Is it true that they never voice what they truly mean and that they will talk behind your back but never in your face? Brutal dishonesty is one of the things I heard from some vlogs and I wonder is it an overestimation.

[DarkTriad]

(03-16-2018 03:55 PM)Arado Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 02:35 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(03-15-2018 10:21 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

This sort of reply brings nothing useful to the discussion and comes across as needlessly patronizing/condescending. If you have some sort of better understanding of Japanese culture than the rest of us, then elaborate your ideas rather than dropping unhelpful one liners.

I thought I was fairly clear: you're asking completely the wrong question. It's like asking whether Atilla the Hun was more of a communist or a democrat. Globalism/Nationalism is a Western dialectic that just doesn't map on to Japan well, because it's its own nation with its own history its own power structure, and its own ideologies. That's why you're confused, you're using a framework to try to understand them that simply　doesn't apply.

Globalism/Nationalism is not part of the language, and it's not part of the discourse there. It's simply not a "thing". Hell, you can go to amazon.co.jp and run a search for globalism and you'll see that not a single book's been published in the last year by a Japanese publishing house about globalism in the past year, and only two were written by crappy kindle unlimited authors. The word "Globalism" doesn't even show up in my IME (The built in Japanese dictionary that every computer has for converting English keyboard inputs into Japanese kanji/kana) which means it may as well not be a word. The closest equivalent after it is グローバル化 (Globalization), but to most Japanese it means things like forcing kids to take extra English lessons, not bringing in foreigners for cheap labor.

The US and the west are not the center of the world, and our politics do not dominate everywhere. Japan is an immensely insular, closed society that doesn't think about the rest of the world any more than we think about the weather on Mars. They're not giving in to the globalists or resisting them, they're simply not even aware of their existence.

Really good points, and I think this applies to the Chinese as well. A lot of posters in the China thread are trying to show that China is a tool of the globalists. However, as with other Asian countries, they have their own cultural and philosophical approaches that make the nationalist/globalist dichotomy irrelevant.

"Talk" about globalism is irrelevant if it doesn't reach the culture. However, the globalism propaganda we are subjected to is just one tool in their toolbox, and they just use other tentacles in other areas. Not talking about Islam doesn't make you immune to getting your head chopped off when a Jihad comes.

[Syberpunk]

(03-16-2018 04:14 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(03-16-2018 02:53 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

When people say the Japanese language is vague, that's not totally true. It's just that the Japanese, for various reasons, typically talk vaguely, depending on the situation.

This is very true.
Trying to figure out meaning and intentions in Japan is very difficult sometimes. Even for the Japanese between themselves.

Everything is indirect.

Now I understand, I always thought that during presentations with gaming developers from Japan (Square Enix being my prime example) that the translators/translation the company were been deliberately vague on purpose, but now I see it as a way so as to not damage/bring shame to the company, the polite but firm as hell approach, it's lead me to think the Japanese are very cautious with new ideas at whatever level of their society. Their language literally informs their thinking, its not corporate speak (much like German for Germans which is well observed a example)

This is why the destruction of language is such a horrendous thing, you can literally tear the unique soul of a culture/country out forever and control it.

Sometimes I think they're been overly flowery and deliberately obtuse, that can be off putting and you just want them to spit it out, (you can see this in the Yakuza games where there are reems and reems of dialogue to just get to the point and they're often just saying words to say words it feels) but it's a brilliant, clever defensive mechanism to protect your culture. It's a genuinely alien thing, which makes it fascinating and cool as hell, English translations/translators often make Japanese people seem like simple minded robots/drones spouting platitudes, but you know there would be so much more going on revealed to you if you actually knew the language YOURSELF.

It difficult, so anyone who wants to learn really has to WANT to learn and give themselves over. By making the barriers high, You encourage the right people to turn up in the 1st place for entry. The "Right" Stuff.

[Syberpunk]

(03-16-2018 04:14 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

WBCRF



Would Bang Cash Register Furiously

[nomadbrah]

What do you mean by globalism?

There's the old definition, which is a no-border capitalism, benefiting mainly the rent seeking parasites in New York and then there's the new globalism which is strictly about destroying white countries.

The old globalism was about installing puppet politicians in emerging markets, by giving them "cheap" loans to bribe the population, then create a crisis, call in the loans -> forced privatization of public companies at pennies on the dollar for New York rentiers.

As far as I know, Japan did not fall for this and own their infrastructure.

The modern kind of globalism of course isn't there because Japan is not a white country.

[Mercenary]

(03-16-2018 05:38 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

What do you mean by globalism?

There's the old definition, which is a no-border capitalism, benefiting mainly the rent seeking parasites in New York and then there's the new globalism which is strictly about destroying white countries.

The old globalism was about installing puppet politicians in emerging markets, by giving them "cheap" loans to bribe the population, then create a crisis, call in the loans -> forced privatization of public companies at pennies on the dollar for New York rentiers.

As far as I know, Japan did not fall for this and own their infrastructure.

The modern kind of globalism of course isn't there because Japan is not a white country.

I mean, the new modern definition.
I know Japan is not targeted like white race majority countries are, but I see signs of cultural and societal destruction across asia. Not as decadent as the west for sure, but it's there and growing.

Examples: Gay, homo and trans acceptance and propaganda, emasculation and effeminization of men, plunging birthrates, high divorce rates, etc, etc

[Aurini]

Check out this lecture on "Greenhouse Capitalism", used as the introduction to an anime series about how the atomic bomb left Japan with nothing but consumerist nihilism.

This is approaching the answer you're seeking.

[Mercenary]

(03-17-2018 11:01 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Check out this lecture on "Greenhouse Capitalism", used as the introduction to an anime series about how the atomic bomb left Japan with nothing but consumerist nihilism.

This is approaching the answer you're seeking.

Are you sure that link is correct Aurini ?

[Mercenary]

(03-14-2018 03:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Japan has to do what the globalists order them to do. They can drag their feet, but that is about it.

After the last earthquake off the coast and the resulting tsunami Japan signed an important international financial agreement instantly. It was really strange, because it was reported on Financial Times and how the Japanese resisted it.

Then they get the earthquake off the coast - something which can easily be triggered by modern weaponry. Then boom - the very next day they sign the agreement as if it is the most pressing thing on Earth despite resisting it for months and years before.

So yes - the Japanese have to do what the globalist mafia tells them to do, but they sure as hell will be dragging it out as much as possible and they will ignore many of the lesser commands for example in terms of refugees correctly saying that the Japanese will not accept it.

Are you sure it was because of Japan refusing to go along with the international financial agreement ?
Here's 2 interesting news articles from February 2010, a full year before the 11th March 2011 tsunami.



Source:
Hindustan times

Quote:

Japan offers to enrich uranium for Iran: report

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world/jap...2k9pM.html

Japan has offered to enrich uranium for Iran to allow the Islamic republic access to nuclear power while allaying international fears it might be seeking an atomic weapon, according to a report Wednesday.

Feb 24, 2010


Japan has offered to enrich uranium for Iran to allow the Islamic republic access to nuclear power while allaying international fears it might be seeking an atomic weapon, according to a report Wednesday. Tehran has not yet given a concrete response to the US-backed proposal, which was made when Iran's top nuclear negotiator Saeed Jalili visited Tokyo in December, the Nikkei business daily said. Japan's Foreign Minister Katsuya Okada on Wednesday held talks with Iran's visiting parliamentary speaker Ali Larijani. But in a press briefing afterwards, Japanese officials neither confirmed nor denied the Nikkei report. Okada told his guest that "Japan strongly hopes Iran's nuclear issue will be resolved peacefully and diplomatically ... and that Iran considers a related UN Security Council resolution seriously", a foreign ministry spokesman said.

The United States and European powers suspect Iran is enriching uranium to make nuclear weapons under cover of its civilian energy programme, a charge Tehran denies. Iran is at loggerheads with world powers for not accepting a deal drafted by the International Atomic Energy Agency that would supply it with nuclear fuel for a research reactor if it transfers the bulk of its low-enriched uranium. Iran has so far failed to take up the IAEA offer, under which Russia would enrich its uranium and France would process it. Tehran this month said it had begun enriching uranium itself to a higher level. Japan, the only country to have been attacked with atomic bombs, has strongly supported efforts for nuclear non-proliferation and disarmament.

Source:
Japan times

Quote:

Japanese media get special tour of Iran uranium conversion plant

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2010/0...q7jQCui_Dc

Feb 26, 2010


ISFAHAN, Iran (Kyodo) A uranium conversion facility and nuclear fuel plant in Isfahan, central Iran, were shown to Japanese media Wednesday as the United States and Europe continued to pressure the country about its atomic ambitions. The conversion facility, which manufactures uranium hexafluoride as a raw material for uranium enrichment, forms the core of Iran’s nuclear program in tandem with a uranium enrichment facility in Natanz. The facility would be considered a prime military target if talks with the United States or Israel collapse and result in the use of force.

The viewing, which was restricted to Japanese media companies, was considered an unusual move for Iran. Some observers say the act was aimed at proving Iran is acting transparently in pursuing nuclear power so it can gain support from Japan, a “friendly country” that is distancing itself from the United States and Europe, which are leaning toward increasing sanctions. Although the enrichment facility was undergoing maintenance, an engineer explained the entire process for manufacturing uranium hexafluoride from yellowcake, or uranium ore that has been crushed to a fine powder. The engineer emphasized that the containers used to solidify and store uranium hexafluoride are sealed by the International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N.’s nuclear watchdog, and placed under supervision.

In the nuclear fuel plant, fuel rods used for an experimental heavy-water reactor under construction in Arak, western Iran, were shown. But a manufacturing line for the Tehran research reactor fuel it has threatened to make on its own was not installed, and a manufacturing line for a light-water reactor to be used for future electricity generation also lay incomplete. “Of course, we are facing some difficulties. For light-water reactors, we’ve been solving the problems step by step. As no one in Europe or the United States sells fuel to us, we do it ourselves,” said Ali Saeidi, manager of the Iranian Fuel Assembly Co. Construction of the enrichment facility began in 1997, and production started in 2004. According to an IAEA report, a total of 371 tons of uranium hexafluoride have been produced, with a portion of that used to enrich uranium at Natanz.

Was Japan enriching uranium for Iran at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant before the total destruction of the power plant by the tsunami ?

Is this why Japan has suddenly fully sworn off using nuclear power since the tsunami ? (after embracing it for decades as a power source).

[SamuelBRoberts]

(03-18-2018 05:18 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Was Japan enriching uranium for Iran at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant before the total destruction of the power plant by the tsunami ?

Is this why Japan has suddenly fully sworn off using nuclear power since the tsunami ? (after embracing it for decades as a power source).

I don't understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that Japan swore off the use of nuclear power because the globalists didn't want them helping Iran, and not because of the mess caused by the tsunami?

[Mercenary]

(03-18-2018 05:31 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

I don't understand what you're saying here. Are you saying that Japan swore off the use of nuclear power because the globalists didn't want them helping Iran, and not because of the mess caused by the tsunami?

Zelcorpion claimed the tsunami was man made.

If that's true, I don't think a refusal to sign an international financial agreement is enough to warrant a man made tsunami attack on Japan killing thousands. Enriching uranium for one of the sworn enemies of the globalists however would be a much more plausible reason. Supposedly, some sources claim explosions went off inside the nuclear power plant that were not caused by the tsunami. Japan itself has claimed the Fukushima Daiichi meltdown was "man made" but in their usual cultural style they said this vauguely & indirectly.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(03-18-2018 05:43 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Japan itself has claimed the Fukushima Daiichi meltdown was "man made" but in their usual cultural style they said this vauguely & indirectly.

Where did they say this?

[Mercenary]

(03-18-2018 05:44 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(03-18-2018 05:43 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

Japan itself has claimed the Fukushima Daiichi meltdown was "man made" but in their usual cultural style they said this vauguely & indirectly.

Where did they say this?

It was widely reported in the news in July 2012, a year and half after the tsunami:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne...eport.html

https://www.thenational.ae/world/asia/fu...r-1.395792

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...e-disaster

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-18718057

[SamuelBRoberts]

Oh, I see.
Yeah, that's a mistranslation of the word used in Japanese, 人為的, or "man-caused". In this case it means "The humans dropped the ball, causing the error”, not "Sinister globalists with Earthquake weapons blew up our nuke plant."

Nothing tinfoil hat here at all.

EDIT: This was such a profoundly stupid claim that I had to go track down the exact wording. The specific word used for man-cause disaster was 人災, not the one I thought it was.
Here's a youtube where the chairman of the reporting committee, Kiyoshi Kurokawa, goes into further detail about his claim that it was a "man-caused disaster", just to prove that it's the same word.

Here's the definition of the word he used to mean "man-caused disaster", I pulled it off the first google hit for the word.

Quote:

人災とは、人間の不注意や過失、怠慢が原因で起こる災いのことである。自然災害（天災）の対義語とされるが、自然災害の中でも人間の過失等によってその犠牲が増えた場合、​人災として数えられることがある。

A "man-caused disaster" is a disaster caused by human carelessness, mistakes, or laziness. It it often used in contract with the word "natural disaster", but when human error leads to greater casualties during natural disasters, the word can be used as well.

So no, the Japanese government did not obliquely attribute the Fukushima disaster to sinister Earthquake weapons. You have globalism on the brain and don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[CynicalContrarian]

I believe 'Black Pigeon Speaks' lives in / has lived in Japan, so this may be of some interest :

[Mercenary]

(03-18-2018 05:57 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

This was such a profoundly stupid claim that I had to go track down the exact wording.

[snip]

You have globalism on the brain and don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I have looked through all your past posts on Japanese topics on RVF. You seem to speak the language, but have never lived in Japan on a permanent basis. (Or if you have, you have never admitted it here publicly). I don't know your level of fluency, but just because you speak (some) Japanese does not mean you understand the culture or are some kind of "Japan expert" or are capable of deciphering all the nuances of their way of speaking. The only Japan related datasheet you've ever dropped on RVF was on their cooking.

As for your claims that globalism has no influence on Japan, you are also contradicting yourself.
In the past you have made clear statements about globalist influence on Japan:

Here:

thread-58075...pid1388489

(09-08-2016 05:21 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

"Case closed, it's active Jewish subversion. Be careful Japan. They're now like USA in 1965 - hey we are rich, stable and homogenous, let's lighten up and be accepting of difference! Which is fine until you wake up one day and you are no longer rich, stable or homogenous."

I'm seeing more and more feminist bullshit in my Japanese twitter feed lately.
The subversion is definitely starting.

I hope it fails, of course, but to be honest, it's succeeded everywhere else... Might only be a matter of time.

and here:

thread-58075...pid1387302

(09-06-2016 02:58 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

"Ines Ligron is the director and originator of Miss Japan. She is jewish and has published many times that she viewed the Japanese women in need of liberating."

Yeah, this is social programming. I've dated hotter Japanese chicks than her, and I don't even hold a candle to some of the real pickup guys on this forum. I doubt guys like Phoenix would even give her the time of day.
Why the hell isn't Miss Japan being chosen by Japanese people? Why do they need some ugly Jewish woman to do it?

#OutOutOut, it's not just for America anymore.

Also, for a game aware person, also seem to know a bit too much detail about P4P in Japan

(08-13-2016 11:59 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

"I`d say that Japan has maybe a 2-3x higher per capita usage of prostitution than Amsterdam. I cant really say how I know all this on the forums without eventually doxing myself, but prostitution is a HUGE part of the economy now."

I don't see it going away, but if anything, hasn't fuuzoku use been dropping over the past 10-15 years with the advent of the NEET crowd?

Still, the amount of prostitution in Japan is absolutely nuts, and it's something I think most outsiders have no idea about. I knew a fuuzoku chick who gave discount handjobs, once. 20$ a pop, delivered straight to your door. Some of the cheapest in Tokyo, supposedly.

So, lay off the personal attacks, and contribute your knowledge, experience, ideas without the shitty patronizing/condescending attitude.
There's more mature and less childish ways to disagree with me.


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[SamuelBRoberts]

(03-18-2018 07:32 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

I have looked through all your past posts on Japanese topics on RVF. You seem to speak the language, but have never lived in Japan on a permanent basis. (Or if you have, you have never admitted it here publicly). I don't know your level of fluency, but just because you speak (some) Japanese does not mean you understand the culture or are some kind of "Japan expert" or are capable of deciphering all the nuances of their way of speaking. The only Japan related datasheet you've ever dropped on RVF was on their cooking.

You missed the one in my sig, a lengthy translation of a Japanese book I did on stretch techniques. So two Japan-related datasheets, even if one is a little obscure. I don't know what a "Japan Expert" would be, but yes, I am "capable of deciphering the nuances of their way of speaking". It's just a foreign language, they're not martians. Thinking there's deep, hidden layers of meaning in their words is how you end up with dumb ideas like, "The Japanese government said the Fukushima disaster was artificially caused, but these orientals are just so inscrutable that nobody noticed."
I don't talk about where I am located or what I do for a living on a public forum, because I'm not an idiot.

Quote:

Also, for a game aware person, also seem to know a bit too much detail about P4P in Japan

(08-13-2016 11:59 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

"I`d say that Japan has maybe a 2-3x higher per capita usage of prostitution than Amsterdam. I cant really say how I know all this on the forums without eventually doxing myself, but prostitution is a HUGE part of the economy now."
I don't see it going away, but if anything, hasn't fuuzoku use been dropping over the past 10-15 years with the advent of the NEET crowd?
Still, the amount of prostitution in Japan is absolutely nuts, and it's something I think most outsiders have no idea about. I knew a fuuzoku chick who gave discount handjobs, once. 20$ a pop, delivered straight to your door. Some of the cheapest in Tokyo, supposedly.

I'm sure you think that's a killer accusation, but how much about P4P in Japan is one allowed to know, and how much is "too much", considering it's a basic part of the culture in a way that it simply isn't in the US? I've never engaged in P4P, in Japan or anywhere else. As far as I know, whites aren't even allowed at the brothels in Japan. The girl in question I met when I was bored and trolling on Skype one evening. Classy accusation, though.

Quote:

So, lay off the personal attacks, and contribute your knowledge, experience, ideas without the shitty patronizing/condescending attitude.
There's more mature and less childish ways to disagree with me.

I'm not sure where you get off accusing me of buying foreign whores and then saying I need to be more mature.

I stand by the statement I made initially. The Globalist/Nationalist dichotomy is the wrong one to understand Japan with. You're using the wrong framework, and because of that, you're ending up asking nonsense questions and getting nonsense answers.