[ItalianStallion9]

Love reading RooshV. Learned alot about becoming a stronger, more confident guy.

That being said, I feel like some of the advice/techniques apply to women who are younger and more naive.
Example: a woman prefers to go after a tatted bartender or broke DJ over a boring lawyer. Does this really apply to women 30+?

[realRichardJohnson]

(02-21-2018 08:39 PM)ItalianStallion9 Wrote:  

Love reading RooshV. Learned alot about becoming a stronger, more confident guy.

That being said, I feel like some of the advice/techniques apply to women who are younger and more naive.
Example: a woman prefers to go after a tatted bartender or broke DJ over a boring lawyer. Does this really apply to women 30+?

As a woman gets older (i.e., 'hits the wall') she realizes that her sexual market value is rapidly declining and will begin to search for a beta male provider. She will always however lust for an alpha male regardless if she's 18 or ... 81

Richard "Dick" Johnson

[John Michael Kane]

Depends upon the maturity or immaturity of the woman in question. It isn't a one size fits all answer. If you build yourself into a higher quality man, you have more aceess to women worth having a longterm relationship or marriage with. Like finds like. Look at a girl's family as a good indicator as to her upbringing and if she's worth investing in or not.

[ItalianStallion9]

I just feel like a woman in (for example) grad/law school would lean towards finding a mature/established man over a DJ (even if the DJ is an alpha badboy).
I'm just wondering if some of these principles apply mostly towards younger women. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way?

[Montrose]

I think that women care more about your dominance and masculinity than your occupation or hobbies. It’s hard to generalize. I’m a staid older gentleman and I target women under 25 and it works. It works a bit better with high IQ, educated women but not significantly so.
I think you are in fact looking at it the wrong way. I have two recommendations for you:
- Develop your own style and stick to it. Don’t try to become a DJ.
- forget about women 30+

[Montrose]

Also you have to distinguish between forebrain and hindbrain (or in Freudian terms Ego and Id)

Women’s unconscious Id is attracted to Alpha dominant males and doesn’t care much for anything else.
Women’s conscious Ego may be looking for a husband, or for ‘fun’ (whatever that means), or for experience, or for romance or something else.. This depends on their intelligence, upbringing, social status, personality, education, age etc..
(Additionally women’s super-ego applies additional rules to her quest. Super -Ego usually becomes more powerful with age).
Depending on the relative strength of the Ego in her psyche, she may be looking for different things.

[Leonard D Neubache]

The easiest answer to this question is this.

Unless you have a MILF fetish then never put yourself in a position in life where you have to deal with older women.

Game younger women while improving your frame and status. When the minimum age of the girls you can routinely get seems to increase along with your own age then cash out and marry well.

[ItalianStallion9]

(02-22-2018 06:54 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The easiest answer to this question is this.

Unless you have a MILF fetish then never put yourself in a position in life where you have to deal with older women.

Game younger women while improving your frame and status. When the minimum age of the girls you can routinely get seems to increase along with your own age then cash out and marry well.

Awesome post. What do you feel is the prime age of female to game? Mid 20s? I feel like college aged girls are ultra superficial & immature (albeit, often hot).

I have better convos & connection with older/mature woman (personally being in my late 20s). Maybe I need to separate game/banging with friendship/connection?

[Elster]

You should take some time to read ROK and the forums.
Most of the things you ask have been thoroughly discussed here.

[Dulceácido]

(02-22-2018 04:35 PM)ItalianStallion9 Wrote:  

(02-22-2018 06:54 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The easiest answer to this question is this.

Unless you have a MILF fetish then never put yourself in a position in life where you have to deal with older women.

Game younger women while improving your frame and status. When the minimum age of the girls you can routinely get seems to increase along with your own age then cash out and marry well.

Awesome post. What do you feel is the prime age of female to game? Mid 20s? I feel like college aged girls are ultra superficial & immature (albeit, often hot).

I have better convos & connection with older/mature woman (personally being in my late 20s). Maybe I need to separate game/banging with friendship/connection?

You said, "Awesome post," but then ignored what he said, Friend.

Are you ready to settle down? If not, keep gaming, and game girls younger than you (assuming that's your preference, but you just said something that changes that). If you're ready to settle down, then find the right girl and pull the trigger. After that, it's over, unless you're going to be an adulterer or agree to an open relationship.

Now, as to what you said, what's wrong with this attraction you have to older women? Nothing. Lot's of people have it. It's far from unheard of. Why not just roll with that?

[cazadoress]

(02-22-2018 05:00 AM)Montrose Wrote:  

I think that women care more about your dominance and masculinity than your occupation or hobbies. It’s hard to generalize. I’m a staid older gentleman and I target women under 25 and it works. It works a bit better with high IQ, educated women but not significantly so.
I think you are in fact looking at it the wrong way. I have two recommendations for you:
- Develop your own style and stick to it. Don’t try to become a DJ.
- forget about women 30+

I'm also an older gentleman but I think women in their 20's are only after one thing, they're not looking for LTR. You can only pop viagra pills for so long, these younger women would rather choose natural hard dicks over wrinkly shafts and balls. I like women 30+, we seem to have more in common.

[Jetset]

(02-22-2018 04:36 AM)ItalianStallion9 Wrote:  

I just feel like a woman in (for example) grad/law school would lean towards finding a mature/established man over a DJ (even if the DJ is an alpha badboy).
I'm just wondering if some of these principles apply mostly towards younger women. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way?

I think what you're missing is the hard split in the typical woman's brain between the provider and the mate.

A lot of guys make the mistake of trying to negotiate for desire. "If I solve her problems, pay her bills, treat her real good, show her how hard I work for her, she'll reward me with affection and attraction."

That doesn't work. She might sign up for it and take that guy for everything he's worth because she needs those things, but he'll never have her appreciation. If anything, she loses respect for him because he does everything she wants without making her earn it and she sees herself as far more valuable. The enthusiasm and joy won't be there. She's still attracted to the man who she sees as having strength and understands the game, even if mature/established, and is constantly testing for it. She won't grow out of that.

When I was in my early 20s, there were plenty of late 20s/early 30s women rotating through who had husbands/boyfriends who made ends meet and treated them nice. They were cheating on those men at no charge.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-22-2018 06:54 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

The easiest answer to this question is this.

Unless you have a MILF fetish then never put yourself in a position in life where you have to deal with older women.

Game younger women while improving your frame and status. When the minimum age of the girls you can routinely get seems to increase along with your own age then cash out and marry well.

Older women should be easier and most often they are. If you are putting in 3 dinner dates for a 40yo broad, then you are doing something wrong.

Aside from that - relationship advice is almost identical, but of course even there - a 22yo hottie is going to be much harder to ride in a happy LTR than a 45yo wife. Though - the basic advice still stays the same.

You can also check out Dalrock and Rationalmale for more advanced relationship advice.

In terms of using seduction for 39yo broads - here is my advice:

"Your place or mine?"
"Come on, let's go (to my place to fuck)."

That should be all the pickup lines you need.

[Keepiticy2]

the simple answer is NO it works with most women, especially moving forward

The long answers is well it depends. Women in general simply want a prize. Women are simply children and that attractive rich charming alpha male is like a surprise early Christmas present.

Just as you can name hundreds of reasons why a girl would love a present, you can name reasons why girls find certain guys irresistible.

However that's not the point, the point is that most women are insecure narcissist (I know). Most women feel they deserve "Mr perfect" most women will argue any guy down as to why they shouldn't settle for anything less than "perfect". However, every woman also feels they will never have that movie/dream-like experience of meeting a charming attractive guy. Game works in many ways but a woman simply wants her breath taken away, like opening a gift box and it's the thing she wanted all year.

Game is simply giving her that feeling. Possibly manipulating her into doing something fun and exciting. Giving her an experience she can turn into a secret. Giving her something to brag about to her friends to make her friends jealous. Giving her an escape from the boring world.