[nordicplayer]

Back in the newbie forum. Been doing the game for a few years now, but I fell of the wagon. I had some issues that I've solved and some I just had come to terms with (losing my hair)
My last bang was a okc date that went really well.
I had chatted on messenger and checked her fb, so I had lots of useful intel, that had me well prepared for it.
Tonight I went out. Was sitting by the bar and two girls came and sat down. One was a overweight and the other was smoking hot. I wanted to open them, but I couldn't. I had zero clue what to say to them.
My gold would be to have sex with them, and I would do very well at that. But nothing other than the hot girls beauty was inspiring to me. I've had plenty of good convertions with guys lately. They had passion.
They weren't some pretty little thing of use to nothing but sex, so talking to them seemed more natural.
I need to get out of this hole and get back to work, because I'm wasting money on nothing now.

[Winston Wolfe]

(02-10-2018 11:51 PM)nordicplayer Wrote:  

Tonight I went out. Was sitting by the bar and two girls came and sat down. One was a overweight and the other was smoking hot. I wanted to open them, but I couldn't. I had zero clue what to say to them.

I find that most of the time, how you say something is more important than what you actually say. It's 80% about your vibe and confidence and 20% about your actual opener.

One thing that helps greatly to increase vibe and confidence is to make sure you are in a social and outgoing mood already. If you are alone, try making small talk to random people. Shoot the shit with the bartender. Find a bar with a pool table and join a game. Anything that gets you to open your mouth and talk to someone, instead of just sitting there.

If I am not in a social mood already, my mind sometimes shuts down completely and I fall into the same trap: overanalyzing what to say. This happens way less when I've already been talking to people.

I guess another thing is to try and pick your venues and targets. I'm assuming you were interested in the smoking hot girl and the overweight girl wasn't an option. Less than ideal set if you don't have a wingman to help you out and distract the grenade for a while.

[nordicplayer]

Good input. I find it hard to enjoy talking to women unless I'm wasted. If I'm wasted I migth as well not have sex, because I can't feel a thing, and can't go to sleep if I don't bust.
I heard that watching seinfeld is good for learning social stuff that can be used on women. I'm not to sure about that