[questor70]

The objection to the ads doesn't really have to be with the message as much as it's the context. I think those who are opening up a discussion on issues of race are just buying into the idea of TV ads serving some useful function of "opening up a dialogue". This is wrong wrong wrong.

Big business has no role pushing ANY political agenda in its ads...period. If it wants to do charitable work, fine. But outright preaching, no, and that goes for left-wing stuff like this as well as the Koch Brothers trying to buy elections.

The founding fathers insisted on separating church and state but they overlooked the need to separate corporation from state.

Corporations by definition harbor ulterior motives to the point where this can be nothing other than pandering anyway. They ultimately don't stand for anything other than profit. Even Ben & Jerry's is owned by Uniliver at this point. All we can expect from them is to do things to score brownie points from the public but it would be fucked up to lean on them as if they are a legitimate social advocacy group. It's an insult to actual non-profit groups and NGOs and this phenomenon of everything in some way being tainted by capitalist motives is a uniquely American affliction.

What's next? Social justice, the flamethrower, social justice, the doll...

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< Correct - why the fuck inserting politics.

Even if I wanted to put out a positive race message I would put out a black and white dude as closest friends in a razorblade commercial hitting on girls together. Or I would put 2 happy couples - one black and one white having some dinner fun at Pizzahut.

Or have a fun one that is ironic and have one black couple go all conservative with suit and tie and meeting a white couple dressed like Eminem - then awkwardly staring at each other and then end up laughing. There are a myriad ways to poke fun at stuff without sounding like a preachy moron.



Instead they have all this stupid shit being pushed non-stop.

[C-Note]

The comments are not disabled on T-Mobile's Facebook page. The company has been trying to respond to every comment, so feel free to ask them some difficult questions about the ad.

[Atlanta Man]

(02-06-2018 01:28 AM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 12:14 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Sorry the you Tube comments are disabled but let me leave a comment-My best friend is white and until I have children I die for him and his family with pride, and my mother will attend the funeral with her head high. in the commercial those were infants and would not manifest stranger anxiety. Fuck T Mobil and do not buy there products if you wish, but If I am in proximity and I see and recognize violence against Roosh, Aurini, Private man (in a time machine- god bless his soul), AB, Days of Broken Arrows, Huey, My Detroit Players, WIA, Kona, Off the reservatipn, and /or plus more RVF members than I can mention under physical duress -I am jumping in. Fuck your race, you are one of us, and I will fight for you -even against my own race. Lets move past the race issue-I know y'all do not hate me, and I do not hate you-that is not a bad thing.

Snip

First off I am American not Chinese or Muslim. Second off I choose white women because they choose me. Third off your real race is human and organ transplants prove that. Fourth off race relations are better than they ever have been and are getting better. Fifth off fuck who you want and reproduce as you wish, if you really are worried about "white genocide" go to Ukraine and fight for a white country for white people excluding Jews and Russian Caucasus members-the war is there for you if you want it , but who the fuck in there right mind wants to fight for that shit?

Also please do not penalize GTD for this discussion moderators.

[Rocha]

^^That means fighting for the Donetsk/Luhansk rebels
who are mostly (Soviet Union and Marxist supporters). Because the hard-core Chechen islamits manpower and the Jews money is all backing up the Ukrainian militia, Azov, Aidar, Dnipro, Dzhokar Dudayev battalions and many more. The more I think about this conflict the more I see that all is turned upside down and the ones who are fighting in there are absolute pawns loosing their lives in the hands and for a bunch of oligarchs.

[germanico]

(02-06-2018 11:47 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Third off your real race is human and organ transplants prove that.

Excuse me, but I have a horse dick and gorilla balls.

[GoingTheDistance]

(02-06-2018 11:47 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 01:28 AM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 12:14 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Sorry the you Tube comments are disabled but let me leave a comment-My best friend is white and until I have children I die for him and his family with pride, and my mother will attend the funeral with her head high. in the commercial those were infants and would not manifest stranger anxiety. Fuck T Mobil and do not buy there products if you wish, but If I am in proximity and I see and recognize violence against Roosh, Aurini, Private man (in a time machine- god bless his soul), AB, Days of Broken Arrows, Huey, My Detroit Players, WIA, Kona, Off the reservatipn, and /or plus more RVF members than I can mention under physical duress -I am jumping in. Fuck your race, you are one of us, and I will fight for you -even against my own race. Lets move past the race issue-I know y'all do not hate me, and I do not hate you-that is not a bad thing.

Snip

First off I am American not Chinese or Muslim. Second off I choose white women because they choose me. Third off your real race is human and organ transplants prove that. Fourth off race relations are better than they ever have been and are getting better. Fifth off fuck who you want and reproduce as you wish, if you really are worried about "white genocide" go to Ukraine and fight for a white country for white people excluding Jews and Russian Caucasus members-the war is there for you if you want it , but who the fuck in there right mind wants to fight for that shit?

Also please do not penalize GTD for this discussion moderators.

I'm going to try to express myself as best as I can. I kind of feel like I'm rambling and I apologize for not being able to express myself as good as the other posters on here (such as yourself) can do.

First I know you are American.

Second I'm not surprised that white women choose you, I'm sure plenty of women of every race do when you are 6'4. Well, you originally said you were 6'4 but then sometime down the line changed it to 6'5. Either way, you don't have to tell me twice that at 6'4 or 6'5 you can attract girls of any race or ethnicity.

Third, my species is human. My race is white. The term "species" is part of the medical terminology, which I'm sure you would be able to reference with ease due to your medical background.

Fourth, I don't know if you can compare racial relations to today and the past. You would have to be more specific as to if you're talking about the world at large or certain geographic areas.

Fifth, that is not a universal philosophy shared around the world to breed with who you want to breed with.

For example, Muslim women are not allowed to marry outside the religion. Again, that's tribal and largely followed in the Islamic world. Just one example.

But yes generally speaking in most places in the world by law you can reproduce with whoever you want, though many people still choose to stick with their tribe (language, ethnicity, race, nationality, ext. ext.).

Also I never used the word white genocide. And you want me to help end white genocide by entering into a white on white conflict in Ukraine versus Russia? I'm not quite sure where you were going with that one, with all due respect.

Look man, here is what I am trying to say.

At the macro-societal level, race and ethnicity absolutely do matter. The world at large is tribal no matter whether individuals such as yourself can see past all that. That T-Mobile commercial was pushing the message that it doesn't matter, and that's pure propaganda.

Why is the propaganda that race or ethnicity doesn't matter important?

Well, you are a doctor (or currently in med school). There are recessive genes and dominant genes. Generally speaking, ethnic European genes are recessive. White skin, blue eyes and blonde and red hair are recessive.

Statistically, as you can respect as a doctor, the percentage of people with white skin, blue eyes and blonde and red hair are going down and are predicted to go down to a very low percentage relative to the world population by the end of the 21st century while dominant genes are projected to sky rocket by the end of the century.

So going back to T-mobiles question about how race does not matter, it absolutely does matter on the macro level when your race contains genes that are genetically recessive among our species.

Because when times are good economically, a lot of societal tensions are pushed underneath the surface. But when shit hits the fan, which it will be the end of the 21st century, you will see how quickly tribes will form based on however people at the time decide to tribalize.

How does the USA, where we live, tribalize? Mostly, among race. Go to any elementary school cafeteria or playground to witness it first hand. Is that trend going to magically go away as the American white racial group declines while other racial groups rise? I personally don't think so. So why would I be ok with the message of T-Mobile that race doesn't matter?

I know both mine and Atlanta's ideas are nothing new here, I am just putting in my two cents. That's all. I hope I expressed myself as clearly as I could.

[NikNik]

This stuff just started in US and the NFL? UEFA, if anyone is following football(soccer) has massive "No to racism"( translation: pro-diversity) campaigns for the last 5-10 years. Every UEFA competition match starts with messages like no to racism,accept diversity and similar.

[questor70]

"How does the USA, where we live, tribalize? Mostly, among race."

I'd say right now the #1 source of polarization is ideology (red vs. blue) followed by gender and ethnicity is third.

[GoingTheDistance]

(02-07-2018 03:57 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

"How does the USA, where we live, tribalize? Mostly, among race."

I'd say right now the #1 source of polarization is ideology (red vs. blue) followed by gender and ethnicity is third.

I don't think so. Look at housing statistics in liberal cities. People self segregate along racial lines despite living in majority liberal cities. Yes, the red and blue political polarization has grown in recent years, but race is still the biggest way that people tribalize in the USA and the housing and school district statistics prove it.

Are you American? Not many (though there are exceptions) people in the USA are tribalizing among ethnicity anymore , it's mostly among race. Tribalizing by ethnicity is more prevalent in the Old World than in the New World.

[questor70]

I used to live in Los Angeles. Highly diverse overall but more balkanized when it comes to where people actually live. This is most important when immigrant communities fail/refuse to learn English. They cluster/huddle amongst themselves. You'd think by now in the 21st century that people would assimilate more, but no, mostly because of all of the multi-language support-systems in place at the DMV, hospitals, schools, etc...

When I was talking about tribalizing, though, I was mostly talking about where most of the outright conflict comes from. Demographics by itself doesn't create much conflict. Politics does.

[Atlanta Man]

(02-07-2018 03:54 AM)NikNik Wrote:  

This stuff just started in US and the NFL? UEFA, if anyone is following football(soccer) has massive "No to racism"( translation: pro-diversity) campaigns for the last 5-10 years. Every UEFA competition match starts with messages like no to racism,accept diversity and similar.

(02-07-2018 03:26 PM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 03:57 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

"How does the USA, where we live, tribalize? Mostly, among race."

I'd say right now the #1 source of polarization is ideology (red vs. blue) followed by gender and ethnicity is third.

I don't think so. Look at housing statistics in liberal cities. People self segregate along racial lines despite living in majority liberal cities. Yes, the red and blue political polarization has grown in recent years, but race is still the biggest way that people tribalize in the USA and the housing and school district statistics prove it.

Are you American? Not many (though there are exceptions) people in the USA are tribalizing among ethnicity anymore , it's mostly among race. Tribalizing by ethnicity is more prevalent in the Old World than in the New World.

GTD people segregate along socioeconomic lines more than anything else in society. in prison it is the the three r's 1) race, 2)religion, 3) region-but in the real world it socioeconomic class. This is the reality I see living in the real world and working in the prisons.

Moderators please do not ban GTD, this is a productive discussion with value.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-08-2018 01:25 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

GTD people segregate along socioeconomic lines more than anything else in society. in prison it is the the three r's 1) race, 2)religion, 3) region-but in the real world it socioeconomic class. This is the reality I see living in the real world and working in the prisons.

Moderators please do not ban GTD, this is a productive discussion with value.

Of course in modern society it is largely separation by socio-economics. Part of the reason for the separation is racial, because the current-level metrics like IQ or current-level sociological factors like work ethics and internal group nepotism matter (high internal Jewish nepotism, high work ethic - intellectual pressure among Jews or North Asians).

So of course those things will manifest in differences in life outcome.

Aside from that I would like to point out that groups also separate among levels of consciousness - religion being a sign of that. I mentioned in the past that my own spiritual path has many converts with an extraordinary amount coming from Africa. We also have numerous converts from Persia/Iran as well as Jewish ones, who got fed up with their own respective religions. The majority are Christian converts though. In our own in-group I have far more in common than most other people out there - even if the person comes from Nairobi or Colombia. We understand each other based on our own highly similar spiritual path.

The same could be said about Red Pill men with Game - I will get along with a black guy from the Forum better than with a white Blue Pill SJW from my own race.

As for recessive and dominant genes - yes - the decrease of the redhead and blonde population is deplorable - men of all races should be concerned about that - pretty booty is precious. But - there is a huge number of Whites out there, we understand the propaganda, but we should not be too concerned about it for now.

In addition I might point out that some race-mixing and infusion of different genes into the gene-pool of other races can be beneficial. When a high-IQ tall muscular Atlanta Man joins the white gene-pool in the future, then this can be beneficial for Whites as well. The issue here is scale and quality of the genetic infusion. A couple guys or girls in a large population won't matter and their genes will dissolve among whites over a few generations - sometimes even 1-2:





The former tennis player Boris Becker has a black fetish and kids from 3 different mixed mothers. The results vary, but you get my point. If his sons and daughters marry White folk, then you won't even know their heritage.

So all of that is a matter of scale and basic cultural policies - Japan won't disappear if a few white or black dudes marry some Japanese women. It would only disappear if millions are imported each year - what is currently happening in both the EU and the US.

So scale vs malicious politics - relax about some individuals, but know the globalist enemy and their bullshit propaganda.

[GoingTheDistance]

(02-08-2018 01:25 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 03:54 AM)NikNik Wrote:  

This stuff just started in US and the NFL? UEFA, if anyone is following football(soccer) has massive "No to racism"( translation: pro-diversity) campaigns for the last 5-10 years. Every UEFA competition match starts with messages like no to racism,accept diversity and similar.

(02-07-2018 03:26 PM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

(02-07-2018 03:57 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

"How does the USA, where we live, tribalize? Mostly, among race."

I'd say right now the #1 source of polarization is ideology (red vs. blue) followed by gender and ethnicity is third.

I don't think so. Look at housing statistics in liberal cities. People self segregate along racial lines despite living in majority liberal cities. Yes, the red and blue political polarization has grown in recent years, but race is still the biggest way that people tribalize in the USA and the housing and school district statistics prove it.

Are you American? Not many (though there are exceptions) people in the USA are tribalizing among ethnicity anymore , it's mostly among race. Tribalizing by ethnicity is more prevalent in the Old World than in the New World.

GTD people segregate along socioeconomic lines more than anything else in society. in prison it is the the three r's 1) race, 2)religion, 3) region-but in the real world it socioeconomic class. This is the reality I see living in the real world and working in the prisons.

Moderators please do not ban GTD, this is a productive discussion with value.

Thank you for having dialogue with me Atlanta. Based on what you've written on other parts of the forum about yourself, you're obviously a lot smarter then I am. So thank you for listening. Again, if I don't make myself clear please tell me.

Ok now to reply to you - With all due respect, I think your wrong on the real world that socio-economic class is how Americans tribalize. Socio-economic class and race often go hand in hand (but not always) in America, but race is still how we tribalize.

With all due respect Atlanta, you don't know how whites think all the time (likewise I really don't know the inner workings of other people different than myself as well).

Yes, you hang around whites all the time (as you have mentioned) but there's some things many people will keep to themselves in public to keep the peace. I'm sure it's the same with blacks and asians and hispanics and every other group.

Whites use coded language sometimes.

"Good neighborhoods"
"Good schools"

What does "good" mean in that context? Well, it can mean a variety of things. But in my experience, many times "good" will equal majority white (among other things as well, but white is definitely a part of what "good" means).

I guarantee no white person that I know would willingly send their white kids to a majority minority school or would willingly choose to live in a majority minority neighborhood if they could help it.

I would like to add that there are probably very few white people that would ever tell you (or any other minority) this to your (or their) face. But it's understood without having to say it in white community, in the context of housing and school zone districts, that "good" = white.

But marriage, housing and schooling statistics clearly show that people segregate on race more than anything else (though race and class often go hand in hand here but not always). I can try to find statistics if I have time if anybody is interested.

Then there's political statistics, which show how whites are voting and how the minorities are voting. Hillary wins every time without the white vote. Those stats were recently posted in another thread somewhere on the forum.

That's my point. The T-Mobile add is saying that race doesn't matter. But if race is how America tribalizes, than it absolutely does matter. If race matters because that's the # 1 way this country tribalizes, then why should I be happy about the large scale push to get my recessive (gene) tribe to breed with other dominant (gene) tribes that will result in my recessive (gene) tribe becoming a minority?

God that sounded autistic after I wrote it. But then I read this and suddenly it doesn't seem so autistic anymore:

2006 - http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/18/world/...99975.html

Quote:

About half of Americans born at the turn of the 20th century had blue eyes, according to a 2002 Loyola University study in Chicago. By mid-century that number had dropped to a third. Today only about one 1 of every 6 Americans has blue eyes, said Mark Grant, the epidemiologist who conducted the study.

I'm not saying on the individual level that I'm trying to attack anybody. I've dated outside my race as well. I'm not trying to say that blue eyes are going to save America or something like that. But damn man, do those stats not kind of prove my point? Something is clearly going on here.

So I guess my question is this Atlanta - are you saying that in the real world in the USA on the macro level tribalize based on socio-economic class? With the "real world" being housing, schooling, marriage rates and voting patterns?

[questor70]

It would be sort of sad from an aesthetic diveristy point of view not to have any more of those translucent aryans left on the planet in favor of a homogenous mud of interbreeding but that's all it really means to me, an aesthetic loss, like mixing a set of paints into mud. You already see where things are headed in, like the NBA with someone like Stephen Curry. The guy's skintone is as white as can be. Kinda reminds me of Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day--just with kinky hair. Then add in more asian features and that's what humans will look like in the future, assuming we aren't able to just dial in things through genetic engineering or get replaced by androids.

It doesn't really mean anything significant beyond that and I feel no sense of protection for "my" genes, recessive or not.

[GoingTheDistance]

PART 1

I guess Atlanta and Questor are the only two reading this, hopefully this will provide some value to you guys where you see my point that I'm trying to make. I decided to make this post about the stats.

Background: The T-Mobile add is saying (among other things) that race doesn't matter.

My Theory: The USA tribalizes based on race. This is proved by housing, schooling, interracial marriage and political voting statistics.

My Conclusion: Therefore, If race is how America tribalizes, than race absolutely does matter. If race matters because that's the # 1 way this country tribalizes, than why should I be happy about the large scale push to get my recessive (gene) tribe to breed with other dominant (gene) tribes that will result in my recessive (gene) tribe becoming a minority?

My argument is that America tribalizes based on race because of housing, schooling, marriage and political voting statistics.

1. Housing

Source: https://demographics.coopercenter.org/racial-dot-map (overview)
Source: https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html (actual interactive map)

Quote:

- Overview

The map was created by Dustin Cable, a former demographic researcher at the University of Virginia’s Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service. Brandon Martin-Anderson from the MIT Media Lab and Eric Fischer, creator of social media dot maps, deserve credit for the original inspiration for the project. This map builds on his work by adding the Census Bureau’s racial data, and by correcting for mapping errors.

- The Dots

Each of the 308 million dots are smaller than a pixel on your computer screen at most zoom levels. Therefore, the “smudges” you see at the national and regional levels are actually aggregations of many individual dots. The dots themselves are only resolvable at the city and neighborhood zoom levels.

Each dot on the map is also color-coded by race and ethnicity. Whites are coded as blue; African-Americans, green; Asians, red; Hispanics, orange; and all other racial categories are coded as brown.

- Shades of Purple, Teal, and Other Colors

Since dots are smaller than one pixel at most zoom levels, colors are assigned to a pixel depending on the number of colored dots within that pixel. For example, if a pixel contains a number of White (blue dots) and Asian (red dots) residents, the pixel will be colored a particular shade of purple according to the proportion of each within that pixel.

Different shades of purple, teal, and other colors can therefore be a measure of racial integration in a particular area. However, a place that may seem racially integrated at wider zoom levels may obscure racial segregation at the city or neighborhood level.


Take the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area as an example:



While Minneapolis and St. Paul may appear purple and racially integrated when zoomed out at the state level, a closer look reveals a greater degree of racial segregation between different neighborhoods in both cities. While some areas remain relatively integrated, there are clear delineations between Asian, black, and white neighborhoods.

To see the full map of the USA, you can click the link. Again, here's the link for the full interactive map:

https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html

I don't think I can put the map on RVF because the map is interactive, like Google Maps where you can zoom in and out and all that stuff.

However, this website broke down that same housing data a little bit further by looking at 20 specific cities, including Atlanta's very own Atlanta:

Source: https://www.wired.com/2013/08/how-segreg...shows-you/

- New York City



Atlanta



Obama's very own liberal heaven diversity is our strength Chicago



Los Angeles, which the site credits as being a success story for integration despite very clear segregation in the Compton area among minorities where whites barely have a presence



Detroit, a true democratic success story



Birmingham, Alabama in the deep south



Dallas Texas



New Orleans, Louisiana, again in the deep south



Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

[GoingTheDistance]

Part 2

San Francisco California, in the heart of the beast itself



Sacramento, California



Portland, Oregon



St. Louis, Missouri, Ferguson riots should come as no surprise after seeing this map



Omaha, Nebraska



Salt Lake City, Oklahoma



My arguments that America tribalizes based on race because of housing, schooling, marriage and political voting statistics.

2. Schooling

Source: https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/america...segregated

I have some embedded maps that I want to put on here, but when I click insert image or simply copy and paste the embedded map link that the website gives, it doesn't work. I can only find how to embed tweets or YouTube videos but not embedded interactive maps. So for now I guess just click on the link.

I would highly recommend everybody visit the site since the interactive map feature isn't working on RVF. The map is interactive on the website. You don't have to change links or click on slideshows, you can literally drag the mouse over any county in the USA and the racial demographics of each county will show up.

The link shows 3 different maps:

- Share of white kids attending majority-white schools (2011-12)

- Share of black kids attending majority-nonwhite schools (2011-12)

- Share of Latino kids attending majority-nonwhite schools (2011-12)

My argument is that America tribalizes based on race because of housing, schooling, marriage and political voting statistics.

3. Marriage

Source: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...rying-out/

I think Native Americans marry out so much because they don't have much of a choice since their populations are so small. Well, the real Native Americans, not the ones like Pocahontas who claim things that aren't genetically tested.

But the stats from 2015 in the USA show that interracial marriage is the exception, not the norm. I personally think that it shows that yes, Americans do largely stick to their own socio-economic class but they stick to their race the majority of the time as well.



My argument is that America tribalizes based on race because of housing, schooling, marriage and political voting statistics.

4. Political Voting Statistics

Here is the famous map from the 2016 American Presidential election that has been shown all over the internet, including this site that proves racial demographics absolutely do matter and that people tribalize based on racial demographics (although other things as well) when it comes to politics. Hillary = blue and Trump = red.

Source: https://medium.com/@ste.kinneyfields/do-...7bcf88408c



Again my argument (or theory) is that the USA tribalizes based on race. This is proved by housing, schooling, interracial marriage and political voting statistics.

Again, my Conclusion is that if race is how America tribalizes, than race absolutely does matter. If race matters because that's the # 1 way this country tribalizes, then why should I be happy about the large scale push to get my recessive (gene) tribe to breed with other dominant (gene) tribes that will result in my recessive (gene) tribe becoming a minority?

Here's a map from 2005 that shows exactly what the projected American demographics will be like before even taking into consideration the push by T-Mobile and far left to accelerate the white declining trend:

This is the map that shows the demographics of the USA for 1960 (before the Hart-Cellar Act opened the floodgates), 2005 and the projected demographics for the year 2050 if trends continue. Keep in mind this map was done in 2005 so these stats are probably much different (meaning lower projected white population) then what was projected a decade ago.



Since Americans tribalize based on race, this map does not make me feel good about my families future and T-Mobiles campaign (and others like it) piss me off.

[IvanDrago]

GoingTheDistance going in raw on race topics with only 7 posts to his name.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(02-08-2018 10:17 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  

GoingTheDistance going in raw on race topics with only 7 posts to his name.

That's true, but data is data.

[Atlanta Man]

GTD is not being malicious and is using facts, I disagree with him, but he is not making baseless arguments.

[GoingTheDistance]

(02-09-2018 04:14 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

GTD is not being malicious and is using facts, I disagree with him, but he is not making baseless arguments.

Thanks man. You posted that we were having a good discussion, so I replied to you and said that I would try to post some stats to better explain myself. Which I then did.

Whether you agree with me or not, now everybody in the very least has a few new good sources of some pretty cool information.

Though I should've mentioned those maps are better viewed on a laptop device, the mobile device really doesn't do them justice. Especially the two linked interactive maps.

[EndsExpect]

(02-06-2018 11:47 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

First off I am American not Chinese or Muslim. Second off I choose white women because they choose me. Third off your real race is human and organ transplants prove that. Fourth off race relations are better than they ever have been and are getting better. Fifth off fuck who you want and reproduce as you wish, if you really are worried about "white genocide" go to Ukraine and fight for a white country for white people excluding Jews and Russian Caucasus members-the war is there for you if you want it , but who the fuck in there right mind wants to fight for that shit?
Also please do not penalize GTD for this discussion moderators.

To my opinion your are 110% American.

It's funny because I often see you post your feelings on white women. It makes me laugh every time. I think the way you feel about white women is probably the way I feel about black and asian women. My whole life black women have treated me like gold. The first hot girl who ever treated me like I was attractive was black. Asian girls too have always been nothing but fantastic to me. White women have always treated me like shit... probably because I'm white.

So, my thinking on this is that what you say is true. We like the women who like us. It's not really our choosing. The guys who refuse to go with this flow become very bitter in the long run.

[BortimusPrime]

It seems to me that this commercial is more about race baiting minorities than anything else. It superficially seems like a feel good baby commercial designed to get women, but males must be the primary demographic in a football game, right? The subtext of the commercial is really portraying the ethnically diverse babies as future victims of racists. All of this smells like social engineering for the sake of getting more and more blacks and latinos pissed off at whites and willing to be cannon fodder for the regressive left.

Same reason I keep seeing commercials everywhere with the word "resist" being neurolinguistically programmed into the viewer, as well as repeated visuals of brown-skinned people with ridiculous afros pumping their fists in the air. It's all subtle attempts to frame white people as oppressors. Comparatively that Pepsi commercial blew up in their faces because in that case I think it was just trying to sell Pepsi instead of being purely for the sake of psychological manipulation, thinking that protesting shit was popular so theme the commercial on that. (Seriously, the woman hands a pepsi to the policeman, and then all the protesting negroes start break dancing in celebration...you need to be a special kind of retarded to come up with that)

[EndsExpect]

(02-08-2018 04:17 AM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

That's my point. The T-Mobile add is saying that race doesn't matter. But if race is how America tribalizes, than it absolutely does matter. If race matters because that's the # 1 way this country tribalizes, then why should I be happy about the large scale push to get my recessive (gene) tribe to breed with other dominant (gene) tribes that will result in my recessive (gene) tribe becoming a minority?
God that sounded autistic after I wrote it. But then I read this and suddenly it doesn't seem so autistic anymore:

Quote:

About half of Americans born at the turn of the 20th century had blue eyes, according to a 2002 Loyola University study in Chicago. By mid-century that number had dropped to a third. Today only about one 1 of every 6 Americans has blue eyes, said Mark Grant, the epidemiologist who conducted the study.

I'm not saying on the individual level that I'm trying to attack anybody. I've dated outside my race as well. I'm not trying to say that blue eyes are going to save America or something like that. But damn man, do those stats not kind of prove my point? Something is clearly going on here.
So I guess my question is this Atlanta - are you saying that in the real world in the USA on the macro level tribalize based on socio-economic class? With the "real world" being housing, schooling, marriage rates and voting patterns?

I just want to point something out regarding genetics.... because I have a BS in Genetic Research and I worked on the Human Genome project, so this shit kind of bugs me.

Recessive traits like eye color are Lack of Function Genes. So technically we should all have pigments in our eyes, though I forget the function. People with blue eyes have genes that do not produce the pigment correctly... in fact blue eyes are a result of no pigmentation whatsoever.

Now if you inherit a gene from one of your parents that can produce pigments, then your eyes are the proper brown. However, you still have the gene that doesn't work and can pass it on to children. Let me show you an example.



Skin tone is CoDominant. If you look at children of black/white couples you will se that the child is almost always a skin tone between the two parents. Virtually all facial features we consider black are codominant with caucasian features.

Obama is not a black guy. He never was and never will be. The guy is half and if you stand him next to anyone from Kenya it's easy as fuck to see. In the US we have this bullshit one drop philosophy where people who are 80% European ethnically are considered black.

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(02-09-2018 11:25 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(02-08-2018 04:17 AM)GoingTheDistance Wrote:  

That's my point. The T-Mobile add is saying that race doesn't matter. But if race is how America tribalizes, than it absolutely does matter. If race matters because that's the # 1 way this country tribalizes, then why should I be happy about the large scale push to get my recessive (gene) tribe to breed with other dominant (gene) tribes that will result in my recessive (gene) tribe becoming a minority?
God that sounded autistic after I wrote it. But then I read this and suddenly it doesn't seem so autistic anymore:

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About half of Americans born at the turn of the 20th century had blue eyes, according to a 2002 Loyola University study in Chicago. By mid-century that number had dropped to a third. Today only about one 1 of every 6 Americans has blue eyes, said Mark Grant, the epidemiologist who conducted the study.

I'm not saying on the individual level that I'm trying to attack anybody. I've dated outside my race as well. I'm not trying to say that blue eyes are going to save America or something like that. But damn man, do those stats not kind of prove my point? Something is clearly going on here.
So I guess my question is this Atlanta - are you saying that in the real world in the USA on the macro level tribalize based on socio-economic class? With the "real world" being housing, schooling, marriage rates and voting patterns?

I just want to point something out regarding genetics.... because I have a BS in Genetic Research and I worked on the Human Genome project, so this shit kind of bugs me.

Recessive traits like eye color are Lack of Function Genes. So technically we should all have pigments in our eyes, though I forget the function. People with blue eyes have genes that do not produce the pigment correctly... in fact blue eyes are a result of no pigmentation whatsoever.

Now if you inherit a gene from one of your parents that can produce pigments, then your eyes are the proper brown. However, you still have the gene that doesn't work and can pass it on to children. Let me show you an example.



Skin tone is CoDominant. If you look at children of black/white couples you will se that the child is almost always a skin tone between the two parents. Virtually all facial features we consider black are codominant with caucasian features.

Obama is not a black guy. He never was and never will be. The guy is half and if you stand him next to anyone from Kenya it's easy as fuck to see. In the US we have this bullshit one drop philosophy where people who are 80% European ethnically are considered black.

I just want to note that I'm only replying because I was specifically quoted.

Yes I know what causes blue eyes. Blue eyes are also a recessive trait. 99% of the time a mixed child between a white and a black or asian will not have blue eyes.

The picture that you showed, that's a black guy. His eyes aren't blue either they are that weird mix that you usually see in the 5% of mixed raced children who don't get the 100% dark eyes. He does not even come close to resembling a white ethnic European in any way shape or form.

You say the children's skin color usually come out halfway between the parents and the children - Ok, but 99% of the time they still are of the minority skin color. That picture that you posted, he's not "half white" or "half black". He is black. Nobody would look at that man and say mistake him for a European.

Obama is definitely a black guy. I don't care what color he is considered in certain parts of Africa. Put him in any European country and Obama is black. Obama in no way shape or forms resembles a person of European ethnicity. He in every way resembles a person of African ethnicity.

I don't say any of this to be malicious. My point is that the majority of the time it takes generations to go from a darker skin color to a white skin color because European genes are recessive. The reason that I wrote about this in the first place is well covered in my previous posts in relations to the T-Mobile commercial.

EDIT - I'm sorry that you think "In the US we have this bullshit one drop philosophy where people who are 80% European ethnically are considered black", but maybe that's because it's true from our countries perspective. Given that the Europeans founded the nation that is the USA about 250 years ago, that is a legitimate philosophy for us to have as a country.

By the way, while that "bullshit philosophy (in the USA) where people who are 80% European ethnically are considered black" might not be shared exactly alike in Asia and Latin America, our three regions views on race are more similar than not. In no way shape or form is Obama considered white in Latin America or Asia, nor is that guy who you showed in the picture.