[juicebox]

Ok so I try to game as per my abilities. I scored a date tomorrow with a nice lady - maybe a 6/10 or a 7/10 on a good day. She is a HR manager and I got the digits a few days ago at Costa. I was on my lunch break.

She is desi. Well educated. I am in a drought approaching a year so badly need to play this right. Any tips? Pitfalls to avoid?

[PapayaTapper]

(01-30-2018 05:17 PM)juicebox Wrote:  

Ok so I try to game as per my abilities. I scored a date tomorrow with a nice lady - maybe a 6/10 or a 7/10 on a good day. She is a HR manager and I got the digits a few days ago at Costa. I was on my lunch break.

She is desi. Well educated. I am in a drought approaching a year so badly need to play this right. Any tips? Pitfalls to avoid?

1. If you follow this formula EXACTLY you will GREATlY improve your chance of success

2. Try not to care so much.

[juicebox]

I am willing to invest a few dates before expecting to score. I just need to not mess up date #1.

I am not great at approaching or day game so getting this far was a good outcome for me. Need to complete the deal.

Thanks for the link. Will read.

[PapayaTapper]

How old are you?

How old is she?

[augen sehen]

Are you in India? Where are you planning to take her out?

[juicebox]

(01-30-2018 05:39 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

How old are you?

How old is she?

29/31

[juicebox]

(01-30-2018 05:47 PM)augen sehen Wrote:  

Are you in India? Where are you planning to take her out?

Not Indian. Not in India. Am UK born/raised. MBBS student (grad entry, previously researcher).

I guess we will grab some drinks/food.

[PapayaTapper]

Youre way too invested in this going well. Thats actually the biggest thing you have working against you....your own head

Try and relax.

Youre a 29 yo man who hasn't even hit max market value and she's 31 yo unmarried woman way past her best "sell by " date.

[Bacchus]

(01-30-2018 06:20 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Youre way too invested in this going well. Thats actually the biggest thing you have working against you....your own head

Try and relax.

Youre a 29 yo man who hasn't even hit max market value and she's 31 yo unmarried woman way past her best "sell by " date.

That's the truth right there.

It's tough to hear 'care less' and turn that into action. The easiest way to do that is not to give straight answers to her questions. The less plausible, the better.

Girl: "Where do you live?"

You: "In a cave. I got rid of the bears though."

Eventually, you can get around to giving straight answers, but not before evading her questions first.

[juicebox]

2 hours until showtime.
Will try to implement the given advice.

[PapayaTapper]

Its not "showtime"...its just a date. They happen millions of times a day, every day.

Look around you. Every person you see is the product of a man putting his pecker in a woman's fazooty at least once. ...and there's nearly 8 billion people on Earth. Its not that big a deal

Remember, she got up and took a piss and a shit and brushed the sweaters off her teeth this morning just like you did.

Youre a man, she's a woman.

Youre a grizzly bear and she's just a bunny

Its just a date

[juicebox]

Ok so the date was bland. The c**t showed up a bit late (no biggie, but not the sort of character trait that reflects well) and there was a gulf in our intelligence levels. She even mentioned it ("I guess your really smart and I'm not") and I knew it was a non starter. This highlights the difference between 'paper education' and knowing about 1 small area and being well read and well rounded.

Looks - ok. A bit chubby and it showed more with more time to concentrate on it.

All in all a bit of a waste of time. I am starting to suspect that dating isn't really worth it. There should be a service that enables people from particular educational backgrounds to meet-up. Looking back over the last few years, the women I have really liked have all been smart. PhD candidates/holders, medical students/Dr's or legal professionals. The odd artistic type but I find intelligence hugely attractive in ladies but it is quite rare.

[birthday cat]

These are my tips regarding this thread and your other thread "Help! I have great 'cards' but no game!"

Stop caring so much and overthinking things.

Go on more dates. Reading about game and self-improvement is great but it isn't what you need at this time. You need more experience.

(02-01-2018 08:29 AM)juicebox Wrote:  

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The c**t showed up a bit late (no biggie, but not the sort of character trait that reflects well) and there was a gulf in our intelligence levels. She even mentioned it ("I guess your really smart and I'm not") and I knew it was a non starter.
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I am starting to suspect that dating isn't really worth it. There should be a service that enables people from particular educational backgrounds to meet-up.
...

In my opinion you are making excuses and rationalizations. I think you should accept that you are not naturally good or "smart" with women and get much more experience before declaring that dating isn't worth it. You probably should focus on women with higher intelligence and education but that might solve only 10% of your problems. If you are on a date with a dumb girl then do your best instead of mentally checking out. Dumb girls can be sweet and great in bed. Also, you can't be picky until you improve.

It's mostly your fault that the girl was saying things like "I guess your really smart and I'm not". Game requires an aspect of intelligence that you haven't developed much yet. Your problems aren't a result of high intelligence. Your problems are a result of under developed intelligence in the areas of knowing how to talk to women, being interesting to women, and understanding women. Unfortunately these are like the missing links of game that can't be taught very well on the Internet which is why getting more experience is the primary thing you need to do.

[ThrustMaster]

If it’s just the tip it doesn’t count.

[gework]

Next time take your lunch box:

[PUSSYPOUNDER]

Act like a guy that strictly dates hotties. Get her jealous. Don't flirt openly but put yourself in a position where other girls can talk to you brush up against you exeteraa......get her real jelly like a jellyfish...bounce her from.one top spot to the next ...then finally home.Reort later with an added notch..??

[59Seconds]

A rich man doesn't need to tell you he is rich. It's the same with intelligence.

The fact that she said "I guess your really smart and I'm not" implies that you're probably over qualifying, saying things to prove how clever you are.

This conveys too much interest. You're on date 1, and know very little about this girl. She should be qualifying herself to you. You need relaxed body language, good conversational threads, control over eye contact etc.

This should be a reality check that a lot of your identity is based around your intelligence. There is nothing wrong with this, but you have to understand that it will not help get you laid. You need to boost your social IQ, and the idea that you took the intelligence line as a compliment and posted on here further evidenced this.

[Brodiaga]

(02-01-2018 08:29 AM)juicebox Wrote:  

Ok so the date was bland. The c**t showed up a bit late (no biggie, but not the sort of character trait that reflects well) and there was a gulf in our intelligence levels. She even mentioned it ("I guess your really smart and I'm not") and I knew it was a non starter. This highlights the difference between 'paper education' and knowing about 1 small area and being well read and well rounded.

You probably come across as an arrogant know-it-all. This is an instant turnoff.

The smartest people I know (street smart, not only book smart) can make a good impression on people from all walks of life and all levels of intelligence.

Deep intellectual conversations with girls on a first date will rarely if ever get you laid. More often then not they will do the opposite even with girls who are as smart or are smarter than you.

You probably act like Sheldon Cooper from The Big Bang Theory. You need to act like Don Draper from Mad Men. If you can't act like Don Draper (I can't), at least try to act like a normal guy.

[torridon747]

Contrary to what some people say here I do believe women find intelligence attractive. However you filter your intelligence into making them laugh, being quick witted, and solving problems like it was nothing. Not by correcting them on trivial facts or by nerding out on shit only you find interesting.

[Guitarhappy420]

Do you think it is possible that you might need to listen more and talk less? Sometimes it is better to let the other person spill their guts, so to speak, and give yourself the upper hand of judging whether they have anything you want.

[juicebox]

Hey folks.

Just to provide some context I did not just start rattling about medical stuff. She told me about her work project, I then detailed my current units. Then she said what she did.

I am as superficial as the next guy WRT looks being important but I find intelligence hugely attractive and in any LTR it will be a must. These days I am just looking to up my notch count but I know sooner than not I would like to settle with a smart and attractive woman.

[PapayaTapper]

(02-05-2018 04:02 PM)juicebox Wrote:  

Hey folks.

Just to provide some context I did not just start rattling about medical stuff. She told me about her work project, I then detailed my current units. Then she said what she did.

I am as superficial as the next guy WRT looks being important but I find intelligence hugely attractive and in any LTR it will be a must. These days I am just looking to up my notch count but I know sooner than not I would like to settle with a smart and attractive woman.

Im not sure what youre saying. In one sentence (and other posts) you say youre looking for an LTR. Then you say "I am just looking to up my notch count"

Either (or even both) are ok but I get the sense that you dont know what you want. Like everything else in life without having a specific goal(s) you cant have a plan to achieve it /them and without a plan you cant track whether your progressing towards your goal.

Personally I'd suggest keeping it really simple. Dispense with idea of finding an LTR for now. Approach every interaction about as simple "yes or no" exercise.

"Would I fuck her once?" Y / N

If yes then play on.

You cant work on fucking a girl for the second time before you bang her the first

Every LTR (and they've ranged from 3 mos to 7 yrs) Ive ever had started out as "I just want to bang her once" in my mind that just evolved organically as a pleasant surprise.

I enjoy intelligent women myself but Ive never been able to stick my meat puppet in one's intellect or jizz in her personality

[realRichardJohnson]

(01-30-2018 05:17 PM)juicebox Wrote:  

Ok so I try to game as per my abilities. I scored a date tomorrow with a nice lady - maybe a 6/10 or a 7/10 on a good day. She is a HR manager and I got the digits a few days ago at Costa. I was on my lunch break.

She is desi. Well educated. I am in a drought approaching a year so badly need to play this right. Any tips? Pitfalls to avoid?

Read "HR Manager"

Abort mission.

Unless you want to spend an hour listening to feminist garbage, I wouldn't bother. Now it may be possible that she isn't a feminist, but I find it highly unlikely.

Richard "Dick" Johnson

[Off The Reservation]

(02-06-2018 10:57 PM)realRichardJohnson Wrote:  

(01-30-2018 05:17 PM)juicebox Wrote:  

Ok so I try to game as per my abilities. I scored a date tomorrow with a nice lady - maybe a 6/10 or a 7/10 on a good day. She is a HR manager and I got the digits a few days ago at Costa. I was on my lunch break.

She is desi. Well educated. I am in a drought approaching a year so badly need to play this right. Any tips? Pitfalls to avoid?

Read "HR Manager"

Abort mission.

Unless you want to spend an hour listening to feminist garbage, I wouldn't bother. Now it may be possible that she isn't a feminist, but I find it highly unlikely.

Richard "Dick" Johnson

I would say OP is trolling us, except this is the new norm. He didn't say whether this was his own HR manager.

Guys spent too many porn years in their rooms and when they finally go out they choose an older Desi feminist HR manager. Plan on 12 dates not 3, and signing some forms.

What you need OP is a FUN girl. Go around looking for a girl who SMILES now scowls. And find a reason to smile yourself, during the search.

Edit: I cannot in good conscious stand behind this post ie giving advice to the OP after reading his other stuff. The bad attitude and excuse making runs deep in this one. My advice is withdrawn. Please save the smiling girls for the rest of us.

When a non-thinking (yet highly educated) drone rains on your parade out of envy, the only thing you can do is walk away.

[FastBang King]

Because you're a game beginner, I advise you to follow this plan :

First, you must buy a hat.

Second, you must absolutely have a card deck with you, use it just before you go for the kiss.

After kissing, neg her with "you have food in your mouth, it's disgusting". Now she'll be all wet, just wait for her to lay on the table on doggy style position. It's the game signal that you can fuck her.