[Mr.Flappy]

1. Approach
The more the better. Seriously. Oh the myth of spam approaching. As if a quick and nice opener aint the best. "Quality Game" a la James Marshal, its a scam to make what is very easy appear very complicated so you have to buy Dvds and Programs.
They girls cannot sense if you approached 2 or 20 girls before her.
If ure able to hold a normal conversation for 5 minutes ure fine and should get the number if shes interested. I have legit never seen a guy turn a set. I dont believe its possible, or if it happens, its an absolute outlier. Thats all.
"Hey, wait a sec. You look really nice"

2. Escalate:
You actually dont need to do it as long as youre outside your bedroom. In fact it might even scare her off. Golden Rule: A kiss on your bed is 1 million times better than a kiss on the park bench.

3. Get her to your room:
That basically the only thing that matters. Get her to your room and your work is 90% done. You can ask her straight away, if shed like to join you for a drink at your place, or ask her if you can quickly charge your phone at her place, or put your shopping bags at her place, its all fine. The sneaky way proba ly works best.

[dknightbro]

Excellent points.

Highly agree w/all, however, except the first.

It becomes a problem when you're trying to get more consistent w/9-10s. Especially if they're in large groups or mixed sets. Yes, some 9-10s will accept your spam approach game, but fundamentally spam approaching is still based on a numbers game.

It's fine when you're young, but after hundreds of spam approaches I personally stop learning anything except "I can approach".

Spam approach is still a powerful tool in my toolbox, but I see more long-term benefits of doing indirect approaches as they are also conducive to social circle game.

[Mr.Flappy]

I think many people make the mistake to not differenciate between approaching a lot and uncalibrated spam approaching.

I think its totally possible to run good game numerous times a day/night. You migbt even eject after a few seconds because after gears of experience you know the set will lead to nowhere and ping the next.

The only problem Id have with spam approaching is if its really shoddy, like half assed stops in daygame or mumbling during the approach. Other than that I am a big fan if screening girls hard and and fast.

[dknightbro]

Based on your clarification, I would agree with you.

I too believe in approaching a lot (don't discriminate which sets to approach too much).

From my experience, I've just moved on beyond solely direct approaches. Not to say it isn't good (I'll still do it as necessary), but I've recently taken an interest to group dynamics.

There's a level of calibration for indirect group approaches that is inaccessible via direct approach. Sure, I might not get instant flashy results doing this, but the subtext of subterfuge for me today is where game can get really interesting.

I'll say, to each his own as I've done both (direct & indirect) and generally know the pros/cons of each.

[Mr.Flappy]

I'd say groups of girls alwags indirect and solo girls always direct

[dknightbro]

That's a generally good rule.

Game is so nuanced you can go in direct & transition to indirect or vice versa because often their brain is still coming to terms with what just happened they probably didn't even hear your opener.

I've also done hybrid game where based on calibration I'll switch from indirect to direct / vice versa.

I understand some guys just don't want to overthink it and approach based on feel. I get that & have winged with many guys who do that. It's all good.

[colblionel]

Deff agree on escalate part. Think I might have lost a chick on a day 2 trying to go for a kiss. Real awkward. Besides that everything was going great. Now I feel cat is out of the bag and might have scared her off